Seattle, the New 'People's Republic'

[B. Kidd]

How the hell does a munincipality get off dictating labor laws to private business? And Denver is next!

Seattle Council Votes To Require Paid Sick Leave | Fox News

 

[OODA_Loop]

Can you still get circumsized ?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

people to get 5 paid sick days.....but people at companies with 250+ employees get 9 sick days....?

is this because people who work for large companies get sick more often than people working for smaller companies....?

liberal logic at work here methinks....(i.e. target big business)

 

[manifold]

How the hell does a municipality get off dictating labor laws to private business?

That's a joke right?

 

[B. Kidd]

How the hell does a municipality get off dictating labor laws to private business?

That's a joke right?

Nope.
A law of this nature hurt the employees it was intended to help in San Francisco after being passed.

Seattle Adopts Paid Sick Leave Mandate - In Charge - WSJ

Plus, there are murky constitutional issues concerning this type of labor law. Hell, I guess we don't need a Federal overseer when it comes to labor laws. Might as well dissolve the Fed and let the nation descend into 10,000 city-states.
Spartaaaa!

 

[auditor0007]

Laws like this always come about as a reaction to previous wrong doing by employers. Good employers don't have a problem with this because they already provide sick days. It's the employers that will fire an employee for getting sick who don't like it. The thing I don't like about it is that in many cases, employees look at the sick days as free days that they can use as vacation days if they don't use them from being sick. Because of that, employers tend to keep wages down. What can be effective though is to reward workers who don't use their sick days with bonuses.

 

[Failzero]

Pacific Nork West

 

[B. Kidd]

Munincipal micro-management of sick leave in the private sector. Lenin would be proud.

 

[manifold]

How the hell does a municipality get off dictating labor laws to private business?

That's a joke right?

Nope.

So you don't think labor laws should apply to private business?

They should be able to ignore child labor laws, the 40hr work week, the CRA, the FLA, etc.?

You might disagree with this particular law, but asking why labor laws should apply to private business sure sounds like a joke to me.

 

[B. Kidd]

That's a joke right?

Nope.

So you don't think labor laws should apply to private business?

They should be able to ignore child labor laws, the 40hr work week, the CRA, the FLA, etc.?

You might disagree with this particular law, but asking why labor laws should apply to private business sure sounds like a joke to me.

Only specific munincipal micro labor laws like this that are disguised to help the proletariat, when indeed, they end up hurting them and stifle small business.
Nice try tho' at 'moving the goalposts' to federal labor law.
Spaaarta!!

 

[manifold]

Nope.

So you don't think labor laws should apply to private business?

They should be able to ignore child labor laws, the 40hr work week, the CRA, the FLA, etc.?

You might disagree with this particular law, but asking why labor laws should apply to private business sure sounds like a joke to me.

Only specific munincipal micro labor laws like this that are disguised to help the proletariat, when indeed, they end up hurting them and stifle small business.
Nice try tho' at 'moving the goalposts' to federal labor law.
Spaaarta!!

So you prefer that municipalities have less jurisdiction and the Feds have more.

That's your right, but I strongly disagree. I'd much prefer the Fed have less.

 

[WillowTree]

How the hell does a munincipality get off dictating labor laws to private business? And Denver is next!

Seattle Council Votes To Require Paid Sick Leave | Fox News

it's called marxism. and you see it with the nlrb trying to dictate where a company may or may not move too. it's called marxism.

 

[signelect]

When I started working sick leave was granted if your were sick. Today it is paid vacation. A friend working for SS had 60 days of sick leave accumulated so he got paid but he wasn't sick. That is what is wrong. People want a position not a job.

 

[manifold]

So you don't think labor laws should apply to private business?

They should be able to ignore child labor laws, the 40hr work week, the CRA, the FLA, etc.?

You might disagree with this particular law, but asking why labor laws should apply to private business sure sounds like a joke to me.

Only specific munincipal micro labor laws like this that are disguised to help the proletariat, when indeed, they end up hurting them and stifle small business.
Nice try tho' at 'moving the goalposts' to federal labor law.
Spaaarta!!

So you prefer that municipalities have less jurisdiction and the Feds have more.

That's your right, but I strongly disagree. I'd much prefer the Fed have less.

Seriously, your biggest beef with this law is that it's local?

Are you honestly trying to tell me you'd be fine with it if it was a federal law instead?

 

[WillowTree]

people to get 5 paid sick days.....but people at companies with 250+ employees get 9 sick days....?

is this because people who work for large companies get sick more often than people working for smaller companies....?

liberal logic at work here methinks....(i.e. target big business)

it's called marxism and punishing success.. thanks for asking.

 

[B. Kidd]

So you don't think labor laws should apply to private business?

They should be able to ignore child labor laws, the 40hr work week, the CRA, the FLA, etc.?

You might disagree with this particular law, but asking why labor laws should apply to private business sure sounds like a joke to me.

Only specific munincipal micro labor laws like this that are disguised to help the proletariat, when indeed, they end up hurting them and stifle small business.
Nice try tho' at 'moving the goalposts' to federal labor law.
Spaaarta!!

So you prefer that municipalities have less jurisdiction and the Feds have more.

That's your right, but I strongly disagree. I'd much prefer the Fed have less.

Over the long term, the Fed historically has been able to temper munincipal and state law indiscretions, like segregation for example.
There are countless instances when the Fed has gone wild and instances where munincipalities go wild. It is issue relevant as to what camp I fall in.
On this issue, I do not fall into the munincipal camp, as generally Federal labor law seems to be currently adequate without socialist leaning munincipalities trying to build a 'better mouse-trap'.

 

[manifold]

Only specific munincipal micro labor laws like this that are disguised to help the proletariat, when indeed, they end up hurting them and stifle small business.
Nice try tho' at 'moving the goalposts' to federal labor law.
Spaaarta!!

So you prefer that municipalities have less jurisdiction and the Feds have more.

That's your right, but I strongly disagree. I'd much prefer the Fed have less.

Over the long term, the Fed historically has been able to temper munincipal and state law indiscretions, like segregation for example.
There are countless instances when the Fed has gone wild and instances where munincipalities go wild. It is issue relevant as to what camp I fall in.
On this issue, I do not fall into the munincipal camp, as generally Federal labor law seems to be currently adequate without socialist leaning munincipalities trying to build a 'better mouse-trap'.

Ok, fair enough.

 

[B. Kidd]

How the hell does a munincipality get off dictating labor laws to private business? And Denver is next!

Seattle Council Votes To Require Paid Sick Leave | Fox News

it's called marxism. and you see it with the nlrb trying to dictate where a company may or may not move too. it's called marxism.

Feds did correct that recently, didn't they?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Well this is Seattle after all.

 

[WillowTree]

How the hell does a munincipality get off dictating labor laws to private business? And Denver is next!

Seattle Council Votes To Require Paid Sick Leave | Fox News

it's called marxism. and you see it with the nlrb trying to dictate where a company may or may not move too. it's called marxism.

Feds did correct that recently, didn't they?

correct what? I know there is a lawsuit in progress and a bill passed in the house to prevent this behavior by the nlrb. but what else has happened?