Zone1 Saying "Blacks" commit 50% of murders is Racism

[ThomasSowellsFro]

Collectivizing all blacks together for crimes they didn't personally commit, is racism and black guilt. It's ok to be black, blacks don't have to have black guilt for crimes they've never committed. Funny enough, the same people who cite 13/50, are the same ones who called Don Lemon a racist for saying that white men are the biggest domestic terror threat. By their own logic, they are racist then. This type of racism is mainstream, people try to rationalize their racism through the guise of "facts".

 

[1srelluc]

Sorry about the white snow.

 

[Anomalism]

Statistics like that are important, but they can also be used for racism. Taking a statistic like that and implying that black people are violent criminals is racist. Taking it and trying to scientifically understand the root of the problem is not.

How you perceive a fact is where racism can come in.

 

[fncceo]

Collectivizing all blacks together for crimes they didn't personally commit, is racism

Collectivizing members of ANY group for acts they didn't personally commit is racism.

Now, I'll stand back and let the irony soak in.

 

[Lisa558]

Statistics like that are important, but they can also be used for racism. Taking a statistic like that and implying that black people are violent criminals is racist. Taking it and trying to scientifically understand the root of the problem is not.

How you perceive a fact is where racism can come in.

There is a big correlation between out-of-wedlock birthrate and low educational attainment and poverty, which in turn is correlated with higher than average rates of crimes.

We as a society need to ramp down on crime, whether committed by blacks or whites, and this needs to be supported by blacks as well. Instead, we are moving in the opposite direction, and the “soft on crime” attitude is the cause

 

[KissMy]

BLM is Racist for claiming police & whites are responsible for locking up more blacks because more blacks actually do commit more crime.

We don't complain about good blacks. Blacks complaining about whites & police arresting black criminals is racist. I have yet to see BLM stand up for white victims of police brutality. Whites usually stand up for blacks.

 

[johngaltshrugged]

At least you admit that you find facts racist.
That's the first step to conquering your race baiting problem.
Keep going & maybe you'll realize seeing everything through a color prism is the source of your own racism

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Zone 1 is absurd for Race Relations.
In other words - an OP can post any garbage they want - as many times as they want.
And you can't attack that for what it is - race baiting. Racist ranting.

 

[gipper]

How about 51%? Is that still racist?

 

[gipper]

Incorrect, you're making an assumption based on a religious or cultural ideal.

We could also take your statement and do the following:

There is a big correlation between the growth of modern capitalism and low educational attainment and poverty, which in turn is correlated with higher than average rates of crimes.

Our failing culture is tied to our failing crony capitalist system. We have a culture that breeds violence, thanks in part to our economic system.

 

[Lisa558]

Incorrect, you're making an assumption based on a religious or cultural ideal.

We could also take your statement and do the following:

There is a big correlation between the growth of modern capitalism and low educational attainment and poverty, which in turn is correlated with higher than average rates of crimes.

Blacks as a whole will not improve their high crime rates if leftists deny the correlation between the high out-of-wedlock birth rate (72% is shameful) and the disproportionate amount of violent crime they commit.

Study: Crime rates linked to out-of-wedlock births

(PhysOrg.com) -- A study in the latest issue of The Journal of Law and Economics finds a link between out-of-wedlock births and rates of murder and other crimes.

phys.org

 

[gipper]

I agree.

A big problem, I think, is that we are trying, as a country, to hold on to a system that has outlived it's usefulness, and our failure to embrace what needs to come next could lead to catastrophe.

Agreed. Though an argument can be made that our system has been corrupted from within. Capitalism did wonderful things for most Americans, at one time. Now corruption and greed rule the day. Our political class, instead of combatting this, is part and parcel of it.

 

[Lisa558]

I literally just dealt with this, and you're just regurgitating the same argument!

There's a study out there for every bullshit under the sun! A study isn't dogma or truth, it's just a study!

It’s obvious. There are a multitude of studies showing the same thing. The BEST thing blacks could do is stop having the majority of babies out of wedlock, and your denying this obvious truth is making things worse.

And P.S. For a poster who just joined yesterday (yeah, right), youmare sure quick to throw around profanity.

 

[Correll]

Statistics like that are important, but they can also be used for racism. Taking a statistic like that and implying that black people are violent criminals is racist. Taking it and trying to scientifically understand the root of the problem is not.

How you perceive a fact is where racism can come in.

Close. It is how you USE the fact that is where racism can come in.


ONe could take that fact and use it to look for the cause of the difference in behavior so that it could be addressed, and that would be NOT RACIST.

Someone else could here that, and PERCEIVE it as wacist. They would just be wrong.


And yes, if one took that fact and USED it to imply that black people are violent criminals because of race, that would be racist.

 

[Blues Man]

Collectivizing all blacks together for crimes they didn't personally commit, is racism and black guilt. It's ok to be black, blacks don't have to have black guilt for crimes they've never committed. Funny enough, the same people who cite 13/50, are the same ones who called Don Lemon a racist for saying that white men are the biggest domestic terror threat. By their own logic, they are racist then. This type of racism is mainstream, people try to rationalize their racism through the guise of "facts".

One more reason not to use race at all when referring to anyone.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Ya I agree pointing out a HUGE problem associated with a race must of course be racist I mean what else could it be?

 

[Correll]

One more reason not to use race at all when referring to anyone.

Ignoring data is a good plan. If your goal is to not address problems and let them continue to kill people.

 

[Blues Man]

Ignoring data is a good plan. If your goal is to not address problems and let them continue to kill people.

There is absolutely no scientific basis for race.

Race is a human construct invented for the sole purpose of marginalizing entire groups of people.

National Geographic

Explore National Geographic. A world leader in geography, cartography and exploration.

www.nationalgeographic.co.uk

Why Race Is Not a Thing, According to Genetics

Scientists are unlocking the secrets to how we’re all related—to each other and to the species that came before us.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Race Is a Social Construct, Scientists Argue

Racial categories are weak proxies for genetic diversity and need to be phased out

www.scientificamerican.com

That's data for you.

 

[Lisa558]

It’s obvious. There are a multitude of studies showing the same thing. The BEST thing blacks could do is stop having the majority of babies out of wedlock, and your denying this obvious truth is making things worse.

(No offense meant, but I'm going to get to the heart of the matter with this study thing.)

There are also a multitude of studies that show you should still be wearing a mask everywhere you go, staying six feet apart from others, and getting a gabillion booster shots!

I didn't subscribe to that bullshit, and I'm not going to subscribe for the bullshit you're peddling either!

Denying that the extremely OOW birth rate among blacks, which of course is correlated to poverty, which in turn is of course correlated with crime, is condoning the very behavior among the majority of blacks leading to most of their problems. Why would you want to keep blacks impoverished and committing most violent crime?

 

[22lcidw]

There is a big correlation between out-of-wedlock birthrate and low educational attainment and poverty, which in turn is correlated with higher than average rates of crimes.

We as a society need to ramp down on crime, whether committed by blacks or whites, and this needs to be supported by blacks as well. Instead, we are moving in the opposite direction, and the “soft on crime” attitude is the cause

For that to happen all groups in all ways must take responsibility for their actions. Policing themselves and making it known. There may be reasons for people not doing it...from fear to having a screw everyone else attitude to feeling gains will be lost to any other reason.