Saudi FM: No Normalization with Israel Until a Two-State Solution.

[Sixties Fan]

“International law” lol. Good one. Now let’s see you enforce “international law.”

The main part of her sentence was " Israel attacked Egypt in 1967". Never mind the why. Facts do get in the way.

And never mind the occupation by the Hashemite of Judea and Samaria, etc between 1948 and 1967. No. That was not occupation, so let us not mention it.

 

[Sixties Fan]

In an article he published in advance of U.S. President Joe Biden’s visit to Saudi Arabia in July 2022, Faisal ‘Abbas, editor of the English-language Saudi daily Arab News, writes that Biden’s visit does not represent a “reorientation” of U.S.-Saudi relations, but rather a return to the norm.

‘Abbas notes that Biden himself stated, in an article he published recently in the Washington Post, that his past criticism of Saudi Arabia was never meant to "rupture" the relations between the two countries. This, says 'Abbas, is obvious – since "who in their right mind would want to rupture a strategic relationship with a country of the size and importance of Saudi Arabia?" 'Abbas adds, however, that the relations between the countries do not require "reorientation," either, since Saudi Arabia has for decades been an invaluable partner for the U.S., helping to combat terrorism, maintain stability in the region, and generate prosperity in global markets. The one who recently deviated from this norm is the U.S., he says, by taking measures such as delisting the Iran-backed Yemeni Houthis as terrorists and withdrawing American military systems from the kingdom at a time when Saudi civilians and oil infrastructures were under attack.

'Abbas also takes issue with Biden’s claim that Saudi Arabia enjoyed a "blank-check policy" from the previous U.S. administration. He states that human-rights issues have always come up in discussions with U.S. administrations, and that the criticism was welcomed when it was justified and rejected when it was not. Moreover, even officials from Biden’s own administration have praised some of Saudi Arabia’s recent reforms, he notes.

'Abbas concludes by stating that, “at a time of great opportunity… as well as daunting global political, security, health and nutrition challenges, the Riyadh-Washington relationship is as important as ever for the peace, stability and prosperity of the whole planet."

(full article online)

https://www.memri.org/reports/editor-saudi-daily-biden’s-saudi-visit-return-norm-cooperation-between-countries-it-us

 

[surada]

“International law” lol. Good one. Now let’s see you enforce “international law.”

The Israelis don't respect international law... Never have. Now they want the Saudis to fight Iran on their behalf.

 

[surada]

The main part of her sentence was " Israel attacked Egypt in 1967". Never mind the why. Facts do get in the way.

And never mind the occupation by the Hashemite of Judea and Samaria, etc between 1948 and 1967. No. That was not occupation, so let us not mention it.

Yes Israel attacked Egypt. Read Moishe Dayan. They wanted more land and water.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Israelis don't respect international law... Never have. Now they want the Saudis to fight Iran on their behalf.

But then, you actually do not know what International law does say. You simply repeat what the anti Israel sources say.

Show us some International law which Israel does not respect.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Yes Israel attacked Egypt. Read Moishe Dayan. They wanted more land and water.

I did not say it did not. I said that there was a reason for it which you do not wish to go into.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Israelis don't respect international law... Never have.

Like the Palestinians, eh?

Now they want the Saudis to fight Iran on their behalf.

And the Saudis want Israel to fight Iran on their behalf.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes Israel attacked Egypt.

Kicked the shit out of them.

 

[surada]

But then, you actually do not know what International law does say. You simply repeat what the anti Israel sources say.

Show us some International law which Israel does not respect.

You can't colonize occupied territory. Consider decency. The British gave you a small country. You want more.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You can't colonize occupied territory. Consider decency. The British gave you a small country. You want more.

One cannot colonize one's own land, homeland. It is the Jewish homeland.

Who is the colonizer on the Jewish homeland?

You are turning this thread into your favorite sport, again.

 

[surada]

Like the Palestinians, eh?

Now they want the Saudis to fight Iran on their behalf.

And the Saudis want Israel to fight Iran on their behalf.

Nope. The Israelis have been threatening Iran every quarter since 1994. They've tried to get the US to attack Iran. I think they should do whatever they want and leave the Saudis and the US out of it.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You can't colonize occupied territory. Consider decency. The British gave you a small country. You want more.

And thank you for showing again that you do not know one thing about International Law.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You can't colonize occupied territory. Consider decency. The British gave you a small country. You want more.

What territory did they occupy?

The British gave you a small country. You want more.

They gave one to the Palestinians. What happened?

 

[surada]

One cannot colonize one's own land, homeland. It is the Jewish homeland.

Who is the colonizer on the Jewish homeland?

You are turning this thread into your favorite sport, again.

The British didn't give you Samaria or Shayba farms, or the Golan heights or East Jerusalem.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Nope. The Israelis have been threatening Iran every quarter since 1994. They've tried to get the US to attack Iran. I think they should do whatever they want and leave the Saudis and the US out of it.

International relations are way beyond you. Your knowledge of what is going on, and why the actors are looking for the relations they are is way beyond you.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nope. The Israelis have been threatening Iran every quarter since 1994. They've tried to get the US to attack Iran. I think they should do whatever they want and leave the Saudis and the US out of it.

The Israelis have been threatening Iran every quarter since 1994.

Can you blame them?

 

[Sixties Fan]

What territory did they occupy?

The British gave you a small country. You want more.

They gave one to the Palestinians. What happened?

They gave nothing to the Palestinians. The Hashemites took 78%. The other Arabs wanted the rest, with no Israel.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The British didn't give you Samaria or Shayba farms, or the Golan heights or East Jerusalem.

Those places were taken by force by the Jordanians.

Everyone stop answering her allegations. They do not belong on this thread.

Surada hijacks another thread. Imagine that.

 

[Sixties Fan]

She laughs, but no showing at all of what International Law actually says.

The end.

 

[Rigby5]

America's war with Russia?

America must join with the rest of the world in a more peaceful stance, along with China, Russia, and the other nuclear powers. It's still possible but the window of opportunity is closiing.

Awesome. Just get Russia to stop attacking their neighbors.

The war is the fault of the US telling Kyiv to break off negotiations with Russia.
The US has pushed Kyiv into committing several acts of war, like stealing oil, murdering ethnic Russians, and violating the 1992 treaties by trying to join NATO.