Sanctuary Cities and States Are the Same as the Civil War Era Confederacy. Open Rebellion Is Not Protest or Dissent.

[SeaMajor7]

I can't for the life of me understand how the **** "sanctuary" status of states or cities is at all LEGAL.
What am I missing?

 

[TNHarley]

How dare you compare these fags and foreigners to the confederacy?

 

[JWBooth]

Sanctuary Cities and States are the Confederacy of the Civil War South. What they are doing is not protest or dissent. It is open rebellion against the Laws of the United States.

1. If you obstruct, prevent, or physically assault Law Enforcement and prevent them from doing their Lawful job you are not a protester. You are the same as a Confederate Rebel.

2. If you refuse to honor a legal warrant, court order, or detainer for a criminal illegal alien you are not protesting or dissenting. You are in open rebellion against the United States.

3. If you are burning cities, throwing rocks are bricks at Law Enforcement, or illegally blocking public roads, that is not peaceful protest or dissent. It is rebellion against the United States. You are an insurrectionist and a Rebel. You are not a patriot. You are the exact opposite.


The remedy for Law you do not like is to work through your Legislator to get the Law changed. That is our system of Government. The remedy for Law you do not like is not violence, obstruction, and rebellion. That's what Democrat Segregationists did in the South. That is what the Confederacy did.


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Foxfyre

rightwinger

Fail

These nose pierced, blue haired, mentally defective, sexually confused, moral degenerates are in no way comparable to the principled stand taken by the CSA.

Not so long ago it was the right, if only for appearances, that was championing the cause of state's rights and standing up to the national leviathan.

 

[Lockback]

Sanctuary Cities and States are the Confederacy of the Civil War South. What they are doing is not protest or dissent. It is open rebellion against the Laws of the United States.

1. If you obstruct, prevent, or physically assault Law Enforcement and prevent them from doing their Lawful job you are not a protester. You are the same as a Confederate Rebel.

2. If you refuse to honor a legal warrant, court order, or detainer for a criminal illegal alien you are not protesting or dissenting. You are in open rebellion against the United States.

3. If you are burning cities, throwing rocks are bricks at Law Enforcement, or illegally blocking public roads, that is not peaceful protest or dissent. It is rebellion against the United States. You are an insurrectionist and a Rebel. You are not a patriot. You are the exact opposite.


The remedy for Law you do not like is to work through your Legislator to get the Law changed. That is our system of Government. The remedy for Law you do not like is not violence, obstruction, and rebellion. That's what Democrat Segregationists did in the South. That is what the Confederacy did.


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Foxfyre

rightwinger

Anyone who doesn't see a civil war of some kind coming really hasn't been paying attention. This has been planned for some time, obviously, and the agents are in place and have been active since at least 2020 and the Burn Loot Murder riots.
I cannot see a way to avoid it at this point because the Far Left isn't going to give up.
I pray every day it doesn't happen.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Anyone who doesn't see a civil war of some kind coming really hasn't been paying attention. This has been planned for some time, obviously, and the agents are in place and have been active since at least 2020 and the Burn Loot Murder riots.
I cannot see a way to avoid it at this point because the Far Left isn't going to give up.
I pray every day it doesn't happen.

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I pray for that as well, but I am happy to be living in an area where, if it does happen, my neighbors are all prepared and armed and skilled enough to defend their families and neighbors and town.

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[Lockback]

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I pray for that as well, but I am happy to be living in an area where, if it does happen, my neighbors are all prepared and armed and skilled enough to defend their families and neighbors and town.

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Same.
I would advise them to stay out of my 'hood. It wouldn't end well for them.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Same.
I would advise them to stay out of my 'hood. It wouldn't end well for them.

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It was funny watching the panti-fa and BurnLootMurder thugs trying to gang up and invade small redneck towns, back in 2020, and ending up crying a lot.

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[Lockback]

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It was funny watching the panti-fa and BurnLootMurder thugs trying to gang up and invade small redneck towns, back in 2020, and ending up crying a lot.

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If they came to my area, I suspect a lot would contract lead poisoning.

 

[Marener]

You guys really need to learn what the constitution does and doesn’t require.

If ICE shows up at someone’s house and says they want to talk, you don’t have to talk or let them in. It is not obstruction to refuse to answer questions or permit warrantless searches.

Detainers are not warrants. They are not legally enforceable.

Read a book.

 

[WelfareQueen]

You guys really need to learn what the constitution does and doesn’t require.

If ICE shows up at someone’s house and says they want to talk, you don’t have to talk or let them in. It is not obstruction to refuse to answer questions or permit warrantless searches.

Detainers are not warrants. They are not legally enforceable.

Read a book.

Refusing a legal court order or warrant for arrest is illegal. Blocking public roads is illegal. Burning others property is illegal. Assaulting Law Enforcement is illegal. Preventing Law Enforcement from doing their job is illegal.

Why do you support insurrection? Explain.

 

[Lockback]

Refusing a legal court order or warrant for arrest is illegal. Blocking public roads is illegal. Burning others property is illegal. Assaulting Law Enforcement is illegal. Preventing Law Enforcement from doing their job is illegal.

Why do you support insurrection? Explain.

Moroner loves violence and chaos. Communists always do.

 

[Marener]

Refusing a legal court order or warrant for arrest is illegal. Blocking public roads is illegal. Burning others property is illegal. Assaulting Law Enforcement is illegal. Preventing Law Enforcement from doing their job is illegal.

Why do you support insurrection? Explain.

A detainer is not a court order. Anyone can refuse to honor them.

Do you think ICE should threaten to arrest people win are exercising their constitutional rights?

 

[WelfareQueen]

A detainer is not a court order. Anyone can refuse to honor them.

Do you think ICE should threaten to arrest people win are exercising their constitutional rights?

That is not what I said. This is what I said. Read carefully.


Refusing a legal court order or warrant for arrest is illegal. Blocking public roads is illegal. Burning others property is illegal. Assaulting Law Enforcement is illegal. Preventing Law Enforcement from doing their job is illegal.

Why do you support insurrection? Explain.

 

[Marener]

That is not what I said. This is what I said. Read carefully.


Refusing a legal court order or warrant for arrest is illegal. Blocking public roads is illegal. Burning others property is illegal. Assaulting Law Enforcement is illegal. Preventing Law Enforcement from doing their job is illegal.

Why do you support insurrection? Explain.

You brought up detainers in your OP. Was that a mistake?

You don’t understand what a sanctuary city is. They’re not refusing court orders. They’re refusing detainers.

If ICE wants to come into my house without a warrant, am I preventing them from doing their job by refusing to do so? Does that make me an insurrectionist?

 

[WelfareQueen]

You brought up detainers in your OP. Was that a mistake?

You don’t understand what a sanctuary city is. They’re not refusing court orders. They’re refusing detainers.

If ICE wants to come into my house without a warrant, am I preventing them from doing their job by refusing to do so? Does that make me an insurrectionist?

Sanctuary cities are refusing court orders and legal warrants. Law Enforcement is being assaulted and attacked daily. Vehicles are blocking public roads during Law Enforcement actions. All are illegal. None of those are Constitutionally protected. It is open rebellion against the United States Government. It is insurrection.

 

[Marener]

Sanctuary cities are refusing court orders and legal warrants. Law Enforcement is being assaulted and attacked daily. Vehicles are blocking public roads during Law Enforcement actions. All are illegal. None of those are Constitutionally protected. It is open rebellion against the United States Government. It is insurrection.

Sanctuary cities are not doing anything of the sort. Suggesting it doesn’t even make sense, because those warrants are for criminals, not for the city. It’s a nonsense statement.

Citizens are being assaulted and attacked daily, and far more violently than anything ICE has been subjected to. Nonviolent protests are in the fabric of this nation.

Those darn black people really were insurrectionists, right?

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Foxfyre]

Sanctuary Cities and States are the Confederacy of the Civil War South. What they are doing is not protest or dissent. It is open rebellion against the Laws of the United States.

1. If you obstruct, prevent, or physically assault Law Enforcement and prevent them from doing their Lawful job you are not a protester. You are the same as a Confederate Rebel.

2. If you refuse to honor a legal warrant, court order, or detainer for a criminal illegal alien you are not protesting or dissenting. You are in open rebellion against the United States.

3. If you are burning cities, throwing rocks are bricks at Law Enforcement, or illegally blocking public roads, that is not peaceful protest or dissent. It is rebellion against the United States. You are an insurrectionist and a Rebel. You are not a patriot. You are the exact opposite.


The remedy for Law you do not like is to work through your Legislator to get the Law changed. That is our system of Government. The remedy for Law you do not like is not violence, obstruction, and rebellion. That's what Democrat Segregationists did in the South. That is what the Confederacy did.


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Foxfyre

rightwinger

I'm struggling a bit here. I agree with your OP that the following is anti-American, insurrectionist, what enemies of the state do:

"1. If you obstruct, prevent, or physically assault Law Enforcement and prevent them from doing their Lawful job you are not a protester. You are the same as a Confederate Rebel.

2. If you refuse to honor a legal warrant, court order, or detainer for a criminal illegal alien you are not protesting or dissenting. You are in open rebellion against the United States.

3. If you are burning cities, throwing rocks are bricks at Law Enforcement, or illegally blocking public roads, that is not peaceful protest or dissent. It is rebellion against the United States. You are an insurrectionist and a Rebel. You are not a patriot. You are the exact opposite."

Any who condone violence against LEOs or other acts of violence against American citizens for political purpose and/or opposes a law just because they don't like it or those who legally pass it are enemies of the state.

Those who do that are vile, unAmerican. Ditto for those who condone/defend/promote that.

What I am struggling with is whether South Carolina who first peacefully seceded from the Union followed by the other southern states of the Confederacy were the same as that. Even the battle of Fort Sumter in which South Carolina defended its own territory was a bloodless battle.

I have always believed those southern states wanted neither war nor violence of any kind. They just wanted the right to determine their own destiny and leave the rest of the USA to determine its own destiny. That is what I saw in the original revolutionaries who rejected the British government. Comparing the seceding southern states to those revolutionaries is a closer analogy I think than comparing the the southern states to the leftist/Marxist minded domestic terrorists described in the OP.

That in fact would make a good debate topic.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Refusing a legal court order or warrant for arrest is illegal. Blocking public roads is illegal. Burning others property is illegal. Assaulting Law Enforcement is illegal. Preventing Law Enforcement from doing their job is illegal.

Why do you support insurrection? Explain.

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They desperately want civil war. They have no other options left.

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[struth]

Sanctuary Cities and States are the Confederacy of the Civil War South. What they are doing is not protest or dissent. It is open rebellion against the Laws of the United States.

1. If you obstruct, prevent, or physically assault Law Enforcement and prevent them from doing their Lawful job you are not a protester. You are the same as a Confederate Rebel.

2. If you refuse to honor a legal warrant, court order, or detainer for a criminal illegal alien you are not protesting or dissenting. You are in open rebellion against the United States.

3. If you are burning cities, throwing rocks are bricks at Law Enforcement, or illegally blocking public roads, that is not peaceful protest or dissent. It is rebellion against the United States. You are an insurrectionist and a Rebel. You are not a patriot. You are the exact opposite.


The remedy for Law you do not like is to work through your Legislator to get the Law changed. That is our system of Government. The remedy for Law you do not like is not violence, obstruction, and rebellion. That's what Democrat Segregationists did in the South. That is what the Confederacy did.


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Foxfyre

rightwinger

It’s the same issue, demklan fighting to keep cheap labor so they can exploit it