San Diego County officials shut down home Bible study

[WillowTree]

*shrug* the issue is that he seems to be clogging up the street each week, which the county has the right to regulate. They seem to be going about it in a poor manner, but this isn't about what hes allowed to do in his home, its about not being a nuisance to the community.

so then dear genius,, why all the questions about religion doyathink? go peddle that shit somewhere else.

 

[Nik]

*shrug* the issue is that he seems to be clogging up the street each week, which the county has the right to regulate. They seem to be going about it in a poor manner, but this isn't about what hes allowed to do in his home, its about not being a nuisance to the community.

so then dear genius,, why all the questions about religion doyathink? go peddle that shit somewhere else.

The questions about religion were to try to find a statute on the books to prevent an ongoing nuisance. Next?

 

[WillowTree]

San Diego has a reputation for being antagonistic toward religion. A guy with some land that overlooks the 5 freeway has a large cross on it which has cost him some court battles.

I can't wait until this whole state goes broke and its government is deconstructed.

could be payback for prop 8????

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Watch the video, you drone. Lack of facts never stopped you from lying about government rationed healthcare.

 

[WillowTree]

*shrug* the issue is that he seems to be clogging up the street each week, which the county has the right to regulate. They seem to be going about it in a poor manner, but this isn't about what hes allowed to do in his home, its about not being a nuisance to the community.

so then dear genius,, why all the questions about religion doyathink? go peddle that shit somewhere else.

The questions about religion were to try to find a statute on the books to prevent an ongoing nuisance. Next?

show me how many times they cite demands for permits for beer or bunco parties,, then I'll believe it was not about religion..

 

[WillowTree]

Watch the video, you drone. Lack of facts never stopped you from lying about government rationed healthcare.

I looked for that video,, where is it

 

[KittenKoder]

so then dear genius,, why all the questions about religion doyathink? go peddle that shit somewhere else.

The questions about religion were to try to find a statute on the books to prevent an ongoing nuisance. Next?

show me how many times they cite demands for permits for beer or bunco parties,, then I'll believe it was not about religion..

If the parties frequently cause complaints ... they could and would ... it's not the city's fault if there are no complaints lodged.

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

It's a link on that TV station's story. The text version is sketchy, I admit.

I did not call you a drone, WT. We're going to need people like you when the socialists run out of other people's money and we arrest them.

 

[RodISHI]

where in the heck is the ACLU now? Why aren't they defending these people's first amendment rights?

this is utter bull crap imo.

They are not into protecting the rights of Christians, never have been.

The ACLU Fights for Christians

Fail.

It appears the majority of the links you claim are in defense of the ACLU for Christian is erroneous.

links
1. A prisoner wanting to be a preacher. 1 Timothy 3:2

2. A claim of defending a quaker... Actually a plea for help from the ACLU...to sign a PAC letter.

3. An invalid link.

4. A story claimed to be from the Washington Post yet not actually linked to the Washington Post.

5. The ACLU defending Gay pro rights in Florida.

6. A copy of a letter with an ACLU letter head stamp.

7. Appears genuine. Article written by the ACLU. No outside source available.

8. The ACLU forces a city to get a Christmas tree which is not generally considered to be a religious symbol.

In its letter to the county sent Tuesday, the ACLU cited case law that found government displays of religious symbols on their own could be perceived as an unconstitutional endorsement of religion. But government displays that included secular holiday symbols, like Christmas trees, alongside religious symbols, did not endorse religion.

9. ACLU defending free speech rights of gays of public protest on privately owned property "Walmart".

10. An ACLU written article. Appears to be genuine. No outside source available.

11. Another prisoner denied the right to be a preacher. Again read 1 Timothy - Chapter 3:2

12. It appears that this is another ploy of the ACLU to tell a Church ran program how they will conform or else.

13. Appears to be genuine. Again an article written by the ACLU. No outside source available.

NEWARK, NJ -- The American Civil Liberties Union of New Jersey today announced that it is seeking to participate as a friend-of-the-court in the case of a second-grade student who was barred from singing a religious song in a voluntary, after-school talent show.

14. Appears to be genuine another article from the ACLU no outside sources.

""While it is true that the Constitution forbids public schools to promote religion, schools must be careful not to suppress the private religious expression of students,"" said ACLU of Michigan Legal Director Michael J. Steinberg, who represented the student. ""In this case, a high school purported to create an open forum for student expression, yet censored a student's speech because it was religious in nature.""

The rest are releases from ACLU with no outside sources available.

So I take back the "never" and stand corrected.

 

[Nik]

so then dear genius,, why all the questions about religion doyathink? go peddle that shit somewhere else.

The questions about religion were to try to find a statute on the books to prevent an ongoing nuisance. Next?

show me how many times they cite demands for permits for beer or bunco parties,, then I'll believe it was not about religion..

Show me examples of beer or bunco parties that went on weekly and clogged up the neighborhood with cars.

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Are parked cars uniquely a nuisance if the gathering going onside is religous?

 

[Nik]

Are parked cars uniquely a nuisance if the gathering going onside is religous?

No. Are they only going after parked cars when the gathering going on inside is religious?

 

[Yurt]

The questions about religion were to try to find a statute on the books to prevent an ongoing nuisance. Next?

show me how many times they cite demands for permits for beer or bunco parties,, then I'll believe it was not about religion..

Show me examples of beer or bunco parties that went on weekly and clogged up the neighborhood with cars.

you obviously don't live in a college town....any given weekend in slo over by poly and you will find this

 

[RetiredGySgt]

the part where you didn't think that an employee of the government interrogating people about their religious practices and then threatening them specifically for "religious assembly" is a problem.

"Attorney Dean Broyles of The Western Center For Law & Policy was shocked with what happened to the pastor and his wife.

Broyles said, "The county asked, 'Do you have a regular meeting in your home?' She said, 'Yes.' 'Do you say amen?' 'Yes.' 'Do you pray?' 'Yes.' 'Do you say praise the Lord?' 'Yes.'"

The county employee notified the couple that the small Bible study, with an average of 15 people attending, was in violation of County regulations, according to Broyles.

Broyles said a few days later the couple received a written warning that listed "unlawful use of land" and told them to "stop religious assembly or apply for a major use permit" -- a process that could cost tens of thousands of dollars."

why "religious" assembly and why the interrogation by the county employee about what is said at the meetings?

Until I see the actual transcripts and less bias sources ... I can't say one way or the other. Just offered possibilities.

fair enough

The Local News Station is now a biased source? The legal group cited is a BIASED source? What does she want? A CNN story?

 

[Amanda]

Unbelievable. And the usual Lefties, that proclaim to support personal freedoms are defending this or saying that a local MSM source isn't credible. What would be a credible source???

Here's a link to the video... Video

 

[Chris]

Are parked cars uniquely a nuisance if the gathering going onside is religous?

Exactly.

People call the cops on parties all the time.

 

[auditor0007]

You'd think the city would have something more constructive to do than create an issue over nothing. Too many pencil pushers eating up our tax dollars.

 

[Chris]

Unbelievable. And the usual Lefties, that proclaim to support personal freedoms are defending this or saying that a local MSM source isn't credible. What would be a credible source???

Here's a link to the video... Video

Cool shades, girlfriend.

 

[Chris]

You'd think the city would have something more constructive to do than create an issue over nothing. Too many pencil pushers eating up our tax dollars.

Here in Va. they had the exact same debate about some Buddhist monks who owned a house out in the country.

It seemed really stupid to me. The people who live near them were whinning about the traffic. You can't drive anywhere here without traffic!

 

[Amanda]

Unbelievable. And the usual Lefties, that proclaim to support personal freedoms are defending this or saying that a local MSM source isn't credible. What would be a credible source???

Here's a link to the video... Video

Cool shades, girlfriend.

Thx, yo.