Ok, guys. You both mentioned what opinion the unbiased, intelligent reader of your posts would have, so I'm here to provide. And, SD, since I'm not involved in it, I'm not going to follow your rules for this "debate." I mean that I will make personal attacks on both of you, I will attribute characteristics to both of you that I would really have no way of knowing, and I'm not going to substantiate any of what I say. So, first of all, I would like to make my personal attacks. They're the most fun, I think.
Syntax_Divinity. You know, Al Franken is a very funny man. He's smart and articulate. And you did a fine job of ripping him off. That bit about Gore and James Lee Witt was almost a copy and paste job. SD, you're a cocky bastard. I do think you're smart, though. I also thought that you were quite articulate too, until you started in with the "you're just spinning and dodging, you wussie, stop spinning and dodging." I think that you're beginning arguments were well put. I think that the first third or so of your posts were rather convincing. But you're mean and slightly childish, which is a major deterrent to joining your side.
rtwngAvngr. You're a dumbass. But you're an intelligent dumbass, and I think that's the worst kind. I can't believe you posted a song to try to help your argument. And a bad song at that! I understand that your opinions were reflected in the article you posted, but that was a really cheesy way out of defending your position. Really, incredibly cheesy. And, ok, there certainly isn't any requirement that you engage in any conversation aimed in your direction, but I'm with SD on this one(to an extent), if you wanted to expose your opinion in this sort of forum, I think you should have backed your little arguments up. (and no, you didn't)
So overall, neither of you "won." Based purely on the content of what each of you posted (minus near-indecipherable word play of SD and personal attacks of BOTH sides) it is my opinion that SD's arguments were more persuasive.