Russia will want revenge after losing the war, this may happen in 10 years – Ukraine's Defence Intellige

[toomuchtime_]

One Ohio class submarine is, say, 54 W76-2 100 kt warheads. It's not enough even to overwhelm ABD of Moscow region (which can intercept, say, two hundred incoming warheads). And if the Russians are ready (and in the Pearl Harbor scenario they are ready by definition), even 5 Ohios hardly can kill more than one million of the Russian civilians. And it is acceptable price for the protection of more than twenty millions of Russians in Crimea and Novorussia.

As always, nothing but fantastic lies from you.

 

[Silver Cat]

As always, nothing but fantastic lies from you.

Really? And what do you think, how many W76-2 warheads can intercept the ABD of Moscow region? Explain why.

 

[Silver Cat]

The collapse of the Russian ruble has led to a significant decrease in its value, allowing those with dollars to have significant purchasing power in Russia.​

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The Russians are paying for Putin's foolish mistake to invade Ukraine.

As far as I know, from their point of view cheap food is good, not bad.
And it has almost nothing to do with the possibility of the escalation.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Really? And what do you think, how many W76-2 warheads can intercept the ABD of Moscow region? Explain why.

No one knows how effective Moscow's missile defense, which is primitive in concept, is, but since long range ballistic missiles approach their targets at high hypersonic speeds, one must suppose it is not very effective.

 

[Silver Cat]

No one knows how effective Moscow's missile defense, which is primitive in concept, is, but since long range ballistic missiles approach their targets at high hypersonic speeds, one must suppose it is not very effective.

Yeah. That's what we call "wishful thinking". The problem is that Russian military strategic planners might be wishful thinking as well.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yeah. That's what we call "wishful thinking". The problem is that Russian military strategic planners might be wishful thinking as well.

No, it's a fact that the Moscow system is primitive in design and it is also a fact that you lied when you claimed it could intercept 120 incoming ballistic missiles..

 

[Silver Cat]

No, it's a fact that the Moscow system is primitive in design and it is also a fact that you lied when you claimed it could intercept 120 incoming ballistic missiles..

Russian ABD is better then any other in world, but it actually doesn't matter. Because even if it can't interncept incoming RVs at all, fifty 90kt warheads barely can destroy Moscow only (and kill, say, one million of Russians). And while Moscow is more important for them than New York and Washington combined for the USA, it's pretty acceptable price for the victory in a world war. Napoleon did burn Moscow back in 1812, but the Russians won the war.

 

[Hector12]

Russian ABD is better then any other in world, but it actually doesn't matter. Because even if it can't interncept incoming RVs at all, fifty 90kt warheads barely can destroy Moscow only (and kill, say, one million of Russians). And while Moscow is more important for them than New York and Washington combined for the USA, it's pretty acceptable price for the victory in a world war. Napoleon did burn Moscow back in 1812, but the Russians won the war.

You are insane if you think a nuclear war is even remotely justified in your attempts to conquer Ukraine.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Russian ABD is better then any other in world, but it actually doesn't matter. Because even if it can't interncept incoming RVs at all, fifty 90kt warheads barely can destroy Moscow only (and kill, say, one million of Russians). And while Moscow is more important for them than New York and Washington combined for the USA, it's pretty acceptable price for the victory in a world war. Napoleon did burn Moscow back in 1812, but the Russians won the war.

Of course these numbers exist only in your imagination.

 

[Silver Cat]

You are insane if you think a nuclear war is even remotely justified in your attempts to conquer Ukraine.

It's not about justification. It's about the prices of war and peace.
And now, thanks to some ignorant politicians, the price of a nuclear war is relatively low for the Russians. Actually, it's much lower than the price of the "peace on the European terms". So, from their point of view it is "lesser evil".

 

[Silver Cat]

Of course these numbers exist only in your imagination.

What exactly numbers exist only in my imagination?
The number of Ohio class submarines? The number of Trident-II missiles?

 

[Hector12]

It's not about justification. It's about the prices of war and peace.
And now, thanks to some ignorant politicians, the price of a nuclear war is relatively low for the Russians. Actually, it's much lower than the price of the "peace on the European terms". So, from their point of view it is "lesser evil".

A nuclear war is the lesser evil? What is the greater evil? An independent Ukraine? If the people of Ukraine did not hate you before this invasion, they hate you now.

 

[Silver Cat]

A nuclear war is the lesser evil? What is the greater evil? An independent Ukraine?

An "independent" (Western-occupied) Neo-Nazi Ukraine, which means discrimination, abuse and genocide of twenty million Russian (and Russian-speaking) people, lost of Crimea and Donbass (which means terrible economical losses), NATO-expantion, which means american credible first strike capability. Yes, it's obviously the greater evil from the Russian point of view, as well as return of Mexico to the 1821 borders (with genocide of all non-Latino Americans and deployment of Russian nuclear-capable forces in Texas and California) might be much lesser evil than a nuclear war against Russia from the American point of view.

If the people of Ukraine did not hate you before this invasion, they hate you now.

Really? Who said you this? Anyway, it doesn't matter. Back in 1999 the Chechens did "hate" Russia. Now it's the most pro-Russian region of the Russian Federation.

 

[Hector12]

An "independent" (Western-occupied) Neo-Nazi Ukraine, which means discrimination, abuse and genocide of twenty million Russian (and Russian-speaking) people, lost of Crimea and Donbass (which means terrible economical losses), NATO-expantion, which means american credible first strike capability. Yes, it's obviously the greater evil from the Russian point of view, as well as return of Mexico to the 1821 borders (with genocide of all non-Latino Americans and deployment of Russian nuclear-capable forces in Texas and California) might be much lesser evil than a nuclear war against Russia from the American point of view.




Really? Who said you this? Anyway, it doesn't matter. Back in 1999 the Chechens did "hate" Russia. Now it's the most pro-Russian region of the Russian Federation.

A nuclear was is the worst thing that could possibly happen. I would like to see a poll of public opinion in Chechnya. I am confident that you are not popular there.

Former Warsaw Pact countries did not like you. As soon as they had the opportunity they overthrew the Communist dictatorships you imposed on them, and established democratic governments that voted to join NATO.

 

[Silver Cat]

A nuclear was is the worst thing that could possibly happen.

Obviously, no. There are plenty of things much much worse than a nuclear war.

I would like to see a poll of public opinion in Chechnya. I am confident that you are not popular there.

It's not a problem, if you really want to do it. Not only polls, but election results, percentage of volunteers and so on.

Former Warsaw Pact countries did not like you. As soon as they had the opportunity they overthrew the Communist dictatorships you imposed on them, and established democratic governments that voted to join NATO.

Human beings, usually, don't care much about flags. They do care about their safety, their rights, their wealth. That's why even some NATO nations take the Russian side.

 

[Ringo]

Ukronazis shoot from S-300 into a house, "civilized" world: Alert, russian crime, ukrainians are shooting at their homes because of them, this is genocide!

Israel reports the destruction of a thousand multi-storey houses in Gaza with the inhabitants, the "civilized" world: this is self-defense, one cannot but approve!