Maybe because 166 is less than 500?
Nonsense. You promote nonsense. No one is more propagandized about the events in Ukraine, the war in Georgia and now, ISIS than you. Your evidence about Shishani being trained by US Special Forces is tied to a single report made by an unknown alleged Georgian officer. Your Ukrainian rants are pure Russian propaganda straight out of the Russian government-controlled media. You claim to be "duel Ukrainian-Irish" Have you ever been to either of the nations? Being of Ukrainian ancestry does not make you Ukrainian. Nothing you claim to be such an expert about comes from empirical data. You just pick things out from the net that fits your agenda and run with it. You ignore data that refute you claims.
Hehehe. Spoken out of ignorance I realize. In the true sense of the word. Not an insult.
Your posts are for the most part very intelligent and well thought out but idb you must understand your propaganda machine. It beats the shit out of PRAVDA in the old days.
When Russia went into Georgia it was to repel the Georgian leaders attack on the ethnic Russian people there. Much like what is happening in eastern Ukraine with the Nazis in Kiev trying to destroy the ethnic Russians as we speak.
Know what the neo cons did? Oh they acted. I was so pissed off when I found out about this my head was spinning faster than Linda Blair's in the Exorcist.
They trained soldiers. In Georgia. Their star pupil is now Baghdadi's right hand military man who let ISIS to victory after victory in Syria and then the victories in Iraq.
Omar.
And the Russians apart from Georgia haven't done jack shit on the planet. Crimea is such a huge lie by the MSM and the west as to be laughable. No selfies? No pictures of an invasion of Crimea? Nothing? Not even drone footage? But everyone in the west keeps talking about the Russian invasion of Crimea and its all a lie.
On the other hand the west have been assholes ******* up Egypt temporarily. ******* up Libya permanently. Yemen YIKES! The Ukraine is toast. Forever divided now.
AND YET the assholes in Washington, London, Ottawa, Berlin and others are still determined to take Assad out.
Basically it comes down to this. The US created this nightmare on so many levels. Let me introduce you to the military tactical genius that the US first trained to lead attacks on Russia and now the key dude in ISIS.
Sporting a recognizable red beard and happy to pose for photos, Shishani has acted as a very public face for some of ISIS' most notorious successes.
It was Shishani who posed with the stolen US Humvees that ISIS had seized from Mosul and brought back into Syria.
And it was Shishani who had led successful ISIS military campaigns throughout Syria as well as a blitz through western Iraq that put the group within 100 miles of Baghdad.
These military successes are not simply the result of any innate military capabilities. Instead, Shishani spent years conducting military campaigns against the Russians, first as a Chechen rebel and then as a soldier in the Georgian military. During Shishani's four years in the military, from 2006 to 2010, his unit received some degree of training from American special forces units.
“He was a perfect soldier from his first days, and everyone knew he was a star,” an unnamed former comrade who is still active in the Georgian military told McClatchy DC. “We were well trained by American special forces units, and he was the star pupil.”
More at link:
Omar al-Shishani ISIS commander and US - Business Insider
I agree that the tanker trucks are indeed legitimate targets; for me, the issue is, are they the best targets? ISIS made half a billion dollars in oil exports last year. The key link in the chain is not the little guys with their tanker trucks. Bombing them is like using a shotgun on the ants spoiling your picnic.
They are now hitting those targets as well...........I posted the videos either here on this thread or another thread.......so many on this subject I can't freaking remember..............
While it's true that I could never argue very deeply into this subject, it's also true that Putin chose to send his troops into Georgia while he and Bush and other world leaders were at official functions in China.
Hehehe. Spoken out of ignorance I realize. In the true sense of the word. Not an insult.
Your posts are for the most part very intelligent and well thought out but idb you must understand your propaganda machine. It beats the shit out of PRAVDA in the old days.
When Russia went into Georgia it was to repel the Georgian leaders attack on the ethnic Russian people there. Much like what is happening in eastern Ukraine with the Nazis in Kiev trying to destroy the ethnic Russians as we speak.
Know what the neo cons did? Oh they acted. I was so pissed off when I found out about this my head was spinning faster than Linda Blair's in the Exorcist.
They trained soldiers. In Georgia. Their star pupil is now Baghdadi's right hand military man who let ISIS to victory after victory in Syria and then the victories in Iraq.
Omar.
And the Russians apart from Georgia haven't done jack shit on the planet. Crimea is such a huge lie by the MSM and the west as to be laughable. No selfies? No pictures of an invasion of Crimea? Nothing? Not even drone footage? But everyone in the west keeps talking about the Russian invasion of Crimea and its all a lie.
On the other hand the west have been assholes ******* up Egypt temporarily. ******* up Libya permanently. Yemen YIKES! The Ukraine is toast. Forever divided now.
AND YET the assholes in Washington, London, Ottawa, Berlin and others are still determined to take Assad out.
Basically it comes down to this. The US created this nightmare on so many levels. Let me introduce you to the military tactical genius that the US first trained to lead attacks on Russia and now the key dude in ISIS.
Sporting a recognizable red beard and happy to pose for photos, Shishani has acted as a very public face for some of ISIS' most notorious successes.
It was Shishani who posed with the stolen US Humvees that ISIS had seized from Mosul and brought back into Syria.
And it was Shishani who had led successful ISIS military campaigns throughout Syria as well as a blitz through western Iraq that put the group within 100 miles of Baghdad.
These military successes are not simply the result of any innate military capabilities. Instead, Shishani spent years conducting military campaigns against the Russians, first as a Chechen rebel and then as a soldier in the Georgian military. During Shishani's four years in the military, from 2006 to 2010, his unit received some degree of training from American special forces units.
“He was a perfect soldier from his first days, and everyone knew he was a star,” an unnamed former comrade who is still active in the Georgian military told McClatchy DC. “We were well trained by American special forces units, and he was the star pupil.”
More at link:
Omar al-Shishani ISIS commander and US - Business Insider
Nonsense. You promote nonsense. No one is more propagandized about the events in Ukraine, the war in Georgia and now, ISIS than you. Your evidence about Shishani being trained by US Special Forces is tied to a single report made by an unknown alleged Georgian officer. Your Ukrainian rants are pure Russian propaganda straight out of the Russian government-controlled media. You claim to be "duel Ukrainian-Irish" Have you ever been to either of the nations? Being of Ukrainian ancestry does not make you Ukrainian. Nothing you claim to be such an expert about comes from empirical data. You just pick things out from the net that fits your agenda and run with it. You ignore data that refute you claims.
Hehehe. Spoken out of ignorance I realize. In the true sense of the word. Not an insult.
Your posts are for the most part very intelligent and well thought out but idb you must understand your propaganda machine. It beats the shit out of PRAVDA in the old days.
When Russia went into Georgia it was to repel the Georgian leaders attack on the ethnic Russian people there. Much like what is happening in eastern Ukraine with the Nazis in Kiev trying to destroy the ethnic Russians as we speak.
Know what the neo cons did? Oh they acted. I was so pissed off when I found out about this my head was spinning faster than Linda Blair's in the Exorcist.
They trained soldiers. In Georgia. Their star pupil is now Baghdadi's right hand military man who let ISIS to victory after victory in Syria and then the victories in Iraq.
Omar.
And the Russians apart from Georgia haven't done jack shit on the planet. Crimea is such a huge lie by the MSM and the west as to be laughable. No selfies? No pictures of an invasion of Crimea? Nothing? Not even drone footage? But everyone in the west keeps talking about the Russian invasion of Crimea and its all a lie.
On the other hand the west have been assholes ******* up Egypt temporarily. ******* up Libya permanently. Yemen YIKES! The Ukraine is toast. Forever divided now.
AND YET the assholes in Washington, London, Ottawa, Berlin and others are still determined to take Assad out.
Basically it comes down to this. The US created this nightmare on so many levels. Let me introduce you to the military tactical genius that the US first trained to lead attacks on Russia and now the key dude in ISIS.
Sporting a recognizable red beard and happy to pose for photos, Shishani has acted as a very public face for some of ISIS' most notorious successes.
It was Shishani who posed with the stolen US Humvees that ISIS had seized from Mosul and brought back into Syria.
And it was Shishani who had led successful ISIS military campaigns throughout Syria as well as a blitz through western Iraq that put the group within 100 miles of Baghdad.
These military successes are not simply the result of any innate military capabilities. Instead, Shishani spent years conducting military campaigns against the Russians, first as a Chechen rebel and then as a soldier in the Georgian military. During Shishani's four years in the military, from 2006 to 2010, his unit received some degree of training from American special forces units.
“He was a perfect soldier from his first days, and everyone knew he was a star,” an unnamed former comrade who is still active in the Georgian military told McClatchy DC. “We were well trained by American special forces units, and he was the star pupil.”
More at link:
Omar al-Shishani ISIS commander and US - Business Insider
While it's true that I could never argue very deeply into this subject, it's also true that Putin chose to send his troops into Georgia while he and Bush and other world leaders were at official functions in China.
Hehehe. Spoken out of ignorance I realize. In the true sense of the word. Not an insult.
Your posts are for the most part very intelligent and well thought out but idb you must understand your propaganda machine. It beats the shit out of PRAVDA in the old days.
When Russia went into Georgia it was to repel the Georgian leaders attack on the ethnic Russian people there. Much like what is happening in eastern Ukraine with the Nazis in Kiev trying to destroy the ethnic Russians as we speak.
Know what the neo cons did? Oh they acted. I was so pissed off when I found out about this my head was spinning faster than Linda Blair's in the Exorcist.
They trained soldiers. In Georgia. Their star pupil is now Baghdadi's right hand military man who let ISIS to victory after victory in Syria and then the victories in Iraq.
Omar.
And the Russians apart from Georgia haven't done jack shit on the planet. Crimea is such a huge lie by the MSM and the west as to be laughable. No selfies? No pictures of an invasion of Crimea? Nothing? Not even drone footage? But everyone in the west keeps talking about the Russian invasion of Crimea and its all a lie.
On the other hand the west have been assholes ******* up Egypt temporarily. ******* up Libya permanently. Yemen YIKES! The Ukraine is toast. Forever divided now.
AND YET the assholes in Washington, London, Ottawa, Berlin and others are still determined to take Assad out.
Basically it comes down to this. The US created this nightmare on so many levels. Let me introduce you to the military tactical genius that the US first trained to lead attacks on Russia and now the key dude in ISIS.
Sporting a recognizable red beard and happy to pose for photos, Shishani has acted as a very public face for some of ISIS' most notorious successes.
It was Shishani who posed with the stolen US Humvees that ISIS had seized from Mosul and brought back into Syria.
And it was Shishani who had led successful ISIS military campaigns throughout Syria as well as a blitz through western Iraq that put the group within 100 miles of Baghdad.
These military successes are not simply the result of any innate military capabilities. Instead, Shishani spent years conducting military campaigns against the Russians, first as a Chechen rebel and then as a soldier in the Georgian military. During Shishani's four years in the military, from 2006 to 2010, his unit received some degree of training from American special forces units.
“He was a perfect soldier from his first days, and everyone knew he was a star,” an unnamed former comrade who is still active in the Georgian military told McClatchy DC. “We were well trained by American special forces units, and he was the star pupil.”
More at link:
Omar al-Shishani ISIS commander and US - Business Insider
I'd call that a calculated poke in Bush's eye.
If there is one thing we have learned in a generation of counter-insurgency warfare in the Middle East it is that air power cannot be decisive without troops to take and hold the ground. The holding has to go on for at least a generation. Smash and dash didn't work in Afghanistan, it didn't work in Iraq and there is no reason to think it will work in Syria.They are now hitting those targets as well...........I posted the videos either here on this thread or another thread.......so many on this subject I can't freaking remember..............
If we don't take out Assad then that would provide ground troops.................That policy is stupid and has prolonged the blood shed.If there is one thing we have learned in a generation of counter-insurgency warfare in the Middle East it is that air power cannot be decisive without troops to take and hold the ground. The holding has to go on for at least a generation. Smash and dash didn't work in Afghanistan, it didn't work in Iraq and there is no reason to think it will work in Syria.They are now hitting those targets as well...........I posted the videos either here on this thread or another thread.......so many on this subject I can't freaking remember..............
Providing the air power and high tech weaponry while leaving the ground game to local "allies": is what we tried in Afghanistan. It failed in just three or four years. We tried it in Iraq and it failed even faster. These hard facts need serious consideration by the American pea pull. The fact that the next step (air strikes, no-fly zones, safe havens) in Syria will be easy to take doesn't mean it will lead us in the direction we want to go.
We trained Georgians in a program to prepare troops for service in Iraq (four 600 man units). There is a small chance that Shishani got training at the National Training Center at Krtsanisi, but that is doubtful. The area Tarkhan Batsrachvili comes from, the Panski Gorge region near the Chechnya border is populated with many of Chechnya ancestry. The one you call Omar Shishani or Omar the Chechen (Shishani=Chechen), was born of a Christia Georgian father and a Muslim mother of Chechen ancestry. It would be surprising to learn he would be part of the group trained at Krtsanisi.Nonsense. You promote nonsense. No one is more propagandized about the events in Ukraine, the war in Georgia and now, ISIS than you. Your evidence about Shishani being trained by US Special Forces is tied to a single report made by an unknown alleged Georgian officer. Your Ukrainian rants are pure Russian propaganda straight out of the Russian government-controlled media. You claim to be "duel Ukrainian-Irish" Have you ever been to either of the nations? Being of Ukrainian ancestry does not make you Ukrainian. Nothing you claim to be such an expert about comes from empirical data. You just pick things out from the net that fits your agenda and run with it. You ignore data that refute you claims.
Hehehe. Spoken out of ignorance I realize. In the true sense of the word. Not an insult.
Your posts are for the most part very intelligent and well thought out but idb you must understand your propaganda machine. It beats the shit out of PRAVDA in the old days.
When Russia went into Georgia it was to repel the Georgian leaders attack on the ethnic Russian people there. Much like what is happening in eastern Ukraine with the Nazis in Kiev trying to destroy the ethnic Russians as we speak.
Know what the neo cons did? Oh they acted. I was so pissed off when I found out about this my head was spinning faster than Linda Blair's in the Exorcist.
They trained soldiers. In Georgia. Their star pupil is now Baghdadi's right hand military man who let ISIS to victory after victory in Syria and then the victories in Iraq.
Omar.
And the Russians apart from Georgia haven't done jack shit on the planet. Crimea is such a huge lie by the MSM and the west as to be laughable. No selfies? No pictures of an invasion of Crimea? Nothing? Not even drone footage? But everyone in the west keeps talking about the Russian invasion of Crimea and its all a lie.
On the other hand the west have been assholes ******* up Egypt temporarily. ******* up Libya permanently. Yemen YIKES! The Ukraine is toast. Forever divided now.
AND YET the assholes in Washington, London, Ottawa, Berlin and others are still determined to take Assad out.
Basically it comes down to this. The US created this nightmare on so many levels. Let me introduce you to the military tactical genius that the US first trained to lead attacks on Russia and now the key dude in ISIS.
Sporting a recognizable red beard and happy to pose for photos, Shishani has acted as a very public face for some of ISIS' most notorious successes.
It was Shishani who posed with the stolen US Humvees that ISIS had seized from Mosul and brought back into Syria.
And it was Shishani who had led successful ISIS military campaigns throughout Syria as well as a blitz through western Iraq that put the group within 100 miles of Baghdad.
These military successes are not simply the result of any innate military capabilities. Instead, Shishani spent years conducting military campaigns against the Russians, first as a Chechen rebel and then as a soldier in the Georgian military. During Shishani's four years in the military, from 2006 to 2010, his unit received some degree of training from American special forces units.
“He was a perfect soldier from his first days, and everyone knew he was a star,” an unnamed former comrade who is still active in the Georgian military told McClatchy DC. “We were well trained by American special forces units, and he was the star pupil.”
More at link:
Omar al-Shishani ISIS commander and US - Business Insider
No Camp. We trained Georgians. It's all right out there.
My Uk rants. Oh kiss my ass because the Ukraine, Canada and the US voted to veto a bill introduced by the Russians to attempt to not glorify NAZIS.
Why wouldn't we back a bill to not allow any government to glorify NAZIS.
While it's true that I could never argue very deeply into this subject, it's also true that Putin chose to send his troops into Georgia while he and Bush and other world leaders were at official functions in China.
Hehehe. Spoken out of ignorance I realize. In the true sense of the word. Not an insult.
Your posts are for the most part very intelligent and well thought out but idb you must understand your propaganda machine. It beats the shit out of PRAVDA in the old days.
When Russia went into Georgia it was to repel the Georgian leaders attack on the ethnic Russian people there. Much like what is happening in eastern Ukraine with the Nazis in Kiev trying to destroy the ethnic Russians as we speak.
Know what the neo cons did? Oh they acted. I was so pissed off when I found out about this my head was spinning faster than Linda Blair's in the Exorcist.
They trained soldiers. In Georgia. Their star pupil is now Baghdadi's right hand military man who let ISIS to victory after victory in Syria and then the victories in Iraq.
Omar.
And the Russians apart from Georgia haven't done jack shit on the planet. Crimea is such a huge lie by the MSM and the west as to be laughable. No selfies? No pictures of an invasion of Crimea? Nothing? Not even drone footage? But everyone in the west keeps talking about the Russian invasion of Crimea and its all a lie.
On the other hand the west have been assholes ******* up Egypt temporarily. ******* up Libya permanently. Yemen YIKES! The Ukraine is toast. Forever divided now.
AND YET the assholes in Washington, London, Ottawa, Berlin and others are still determined to take Assad out.
Basically it comes down to this. The US created this nightmare on so many levels. Let me introduce you to the military tactical genius that the US first trained to lead attacks on Russia and now the key dude in ISIS.
Sporting a recognizable red beard and happy to pose for photos, Shishani has acted as a very public face for some of ISIS' most notorious successes.
It was Shishani who posed with the stolen US Humvees that ISIS had seized from Mosul and brought back into Syria.
And it was Shishani who had led successful ISIS military campaigns throughout Syria as well as a blitz through western Iraq that put the group within 100 miles of Baghdad.
These military successes are not simply the result of any innate military capabilities. Instead, Shishani spent years conducting military campaigns against the Russians, first as a Chechen rebel and then as a soldier in the Georgian military. During Shishani's four years in the military, from 2006 to 2010, his unit received some degree of training from American special forces units.
“He was a perfect soldier from his first days, and everyone knew he was a star,” an unnamed former comrade who is still active in the Georgian military told McClatchy DC. “We were well trained by American special forces units, and he was the star pupil.”
More at link:
Omar al-Shishani ISIS commander and US - Business Insider
I'd call that a calculated poke in Bush's eye.
We trained Georgians in a program to prepare troops for service in Iraq (four 600 man units). There is a small chance that Shishani got training at the National Training Center at Krtsanisi, but that is doubtful. The area Tarkhan Batsrachvili comes from, the Panski Gorge region near the Chechnya border is populated with many of Chechnya ancestry. The one you call Omar Shishani or Omar the Chechen (Shishani=Chechen), was born of a Christia Georgian father and a Muslim mother of Chechen ancestry. It would be surprising to learn he would be part of the group trained at Krtsanisi.Nonsense. You promote nonsense. No one is more propagandized about the events in Ukraine, the war in Georgia and now, ISIS than you. Your evidence about Shishani being trained by US Special Forces is tied to a single report made by an unknown alleged Georgian officer. Your Ukrainian rants are pure Russian propaganda straight out of the Russian government-controlled media. You claim to be "duel Ukrainian-Irish" Have you ever been to either of the nations? Being of Ukrainian ancestry does not make you Ukrainian. Nothing you claim to be such an expert about comes from empirical data. You just pick things out from the net that fits your agenda and run with it. You ignore data that refute you claims.
Hehehe. Spoken out of ignorance I realize. In the true sense of the word. Not an insult.
Your posts are for the most part very intelligent and well thought out but idb you must understand your propaganda machine. It beats the shit out of PRAVDA in the old days.
When Russia went into Georgia it was to repel the Georgian leaders attack on the ethnic Russian people there. Much like what is happening in eastern Ukraine with the Nazis in Kiev trying to destroy the ethnic Russians as we speak.
Know what the neo cons did? Oh they acted. I was so pissed off when I found out about this my head was spinning faster than Linda Blair's in the Exorcist.
They trained soldiers. In Georgia. Their star pupil is now Baghdadi's right hand military man who let ISIS to victory after victory in Syria and then the victories in Iraq.
Omar.
And the Russians apart from Georgia haven't done jack shit on the planet. Crimea is such a huge lie by the MSM and the west as to be laughable. No selfies? No pictures of an invasion of Crimea? Nothing? Not even drone footage? But everyone in the west keeps talking about the Russian invasion of Crimea and its all a lie.
On the other hand the west have been assholes ******* up Egypt temporarily. ******* up Libya permanently. Yemen YIKES! The Ukraine is toast. Forever divided now.
AND YET the assholes in Washington, London, Ottawa, Berlin and others are still determined to take Assad out.
Basically it comes down to this. The US created this nightmare on so many levels. Let me introduce you to the military tactical genius that the US first trained to lead attacks on Russia and now the key dude in ISIS.
Sporting a recognizable red beard and happy to pose for photos, Shishani has acted as a very public face for some of ISIS' most notorious successes.
It was Shishani who posed with the stolen US Humvees that ISIS had seized from Mosul and brought back into Syria.
And it was Shishani who had led successful ISIS military campaigns throughout Syria as well as a blitz through western Iraq that put the group within 100 miles of Baghdad.
These military successes are not simply the result of any innate military capabilities. Instead, Shishani spent years conducting military campaigns against the Russians, first as a Chechen rebel and then as a soldier in the Georgian military. During Shishani's four years in the military, from 2006 to 2010, his unit received some degree of training from American special forces units.
“He was a perfect soldier from his first days, and everyone knew he was a star,” an unnamed former comrade who is still active in the Georgian military told McClatchy DC. “We were well trained by American special forces units, and he was the star pupil.”
More at link:
Omar al-Shishani ISIS commander and US - Business Insider
No Camp. We trained Georgians. It's all right out there.
My Uk rants. Oh kiss my ass because the Ukraine, Canada and the US voted to veto a bill introduced by the Russians to attempt to not glorify NAZIS.
Why wouldn't we back a bill to not allow any government to glorify NAZIS.
Much of the training was done by US Marines. Tarkhan gained attention as a reconnaissance and FAO, skills possibly learned or improved upon by direct or indirect US aid, but certainly not trained by US forces directly or indirectly for a command position. He became good at sneak and peak, understood map reading and knew how to put artillery fire on target.
That is how I meant it. It was his job during the Russian-Georgian war at the rank of Sargeant.
