Rules For Traditionals: How People In Wedding Trades Can Defend Themselves

[Nosmo King]

The vendor must go. Must in some way indicate approval of the event every bit as much as an invited guest.

Aside from that, the services required are artistic services. No artist should ever be required to create against their will.

INDICATE APPROVAL?!? Of all the nerve! No wedding needs a mercantile impermatur, a seal of approval from the Association of Tight Assed Wedding Vendors of Pomona. Bake the cake, deliver the cake, end of involvement, period. Who cares if some ignorant uptight, wound too tight for life baker approves of a wedding or not? That's not his call!

 

[SwimExpert]

The vendor must go. Must in some way indicate approval of the event every bit as much as an invited guest.

Aside from that, the services required are artistic services. No artist should ever be required to create against their will.

INDICATE APPROVAL?!? Of all the nerve! No wedding needs a mercantile impermatur, a seal of approval from the Association of Tight Assed Wedding Vendors of Pomona. Bake the cake, deliver the cake, end of involvement, period. Who cares if some ignorant uptight, wound too tight for life baker approves of a wedding or not? That's not his call!

Why can't you just go somewhere else to get your cake? Why are you obsessed with forcing people to do things they don't want to do?

 

[Katzndogz]

The baker's call is how he conducts his private life. The baker's artistic expression is his call.

There is no reason why a gay couple can't go into the bakery, buy a cake and call it their wedding cake.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The vendor must go. Must in some way indicate approval of the event every bit as much as an invited guest.

Aside from that, the services required are artistic services. No artist should ever be required to create against their will.

INDICATE APPROVAL?!? Of all the nerve! No wedding needs a mercantile impermatur, a seal of approval from the Association of Tight Assed Wedding Vendors of Pomona. Bake the cake, deliver the cake, end of involvement, period. Who cares if some ignorant uptight, wound too tight for life baker approves of a wedding or not? That's not his call!

Why can't you just go somewhere else to get your cake? Why are you obsessed with forcing people to do things they don't want to do?

Selling a cake, when you sell cakes, isn't forcing anyone to do anything they don't already do, their ******* job...

 

[bripat9643]

The people are siding with the Christians.

Uh, no, they really aren't.


With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule this spring on whether same-sex couples nationwide should have the right to marry, a gay rights organization on Friday released a new survey showing support for gay marriage at 60 percent among likely voters in the 2016 election.

Read more: Poll 60 percent of likely voters back gay marriage - Steven Shepard - POLITICO

Oh, but it gets worse for you guys.

Polling Finds Growing Acceptance of Gay Marriage and a Gay President - Washington Wire - WSJ

Every time there has been a referendum, gay marriage has been voted down.

The states of Washington, Maryland, and Minnesota prove your statement to be incorrect.

You're wrong about Minnisota.

So you have two states where a referendum failed to overturn legislation that legalized gay marriage. Now, how many states approved referendums against gay marriage? Turds like you talk about the will of the people when it's in your favor, but you don't give a crap about it when they people vote against you.

 

[Nosmo King]

The vendor must go. Must in some way indicate approval of the event every bit as much as an invited guest.

Aside from that, the services required are artistic services. No artist should ever be required to create against their will.

INDICATE APPROVAL?!? Of all the nerve! No wedding needs a mercantile impermatur, a seal of approval from the Association of Tight Assed Wedding Vendors of Pomona. Bake the cake, deliver the cake, end of involvement, period. Who cares if some ignorant uptight, wound too tight for life baker approves of a wedding or not? That's not his call!

Why can't you just go somewhere else to get your cake? Why are you obsessed with forcing people to do things they don't want to do?

Service denied is illegal under Public Accomodation laws. Can't those n*ggers just find another hotel? See the discrimination there?

 

[bripat9643]

The vendor must go. Must in some way indicate approval of the event every bit as much as an invited guest.

Aside from that, the services required are artistic services. No artist should ever be required to create against their will.

INDICATE APPROVAL?!? Of all the nerve! No wedding needs a mercantile impermatur, a seal of approval from the Association of Tight Assed Wedding Vendors of Pomona. Bake the cake, deliver the cake, end of involvement, period. Who cares if some ignorant uptight, wound too tight for life baker approves of a wedding or not? That's not his call!

Why can't you just go somewhere else to get your cake? Why are you obsessed with forcing people to do things they don't want to do?

Selling a cake, when you sell cakes, isn't forcing anyone to do anything they don't already do, their ******* job...

Yes it is, you Nazi asshole. Laws are force, pure and simple. Only a moron or a Nazi would deny it.

 

[Katzndogz]

Then there's no problem with buying a cake and calling it a wedding cake. The baker has done his job by baking cakes which the customer buys and uses for his own purposes.

 

[bripat9643]

I suggest the strip-ee grow a freaking spine.

So basically its all about acceptance, right?

news flash, it isn't right to use the government to force people to accept other people.

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

No, when you try to force someone to do something they don't want to do, its not tolerance, its acceptance. Tolerating is not actively trying to suppress something. What your side wants is acceptance, and using the law to get it is short sighted, and wrong.

Conservatives have been doing that for years.

Your side just is upset that gays are actually using the law that protects them from discrimination.

This is very true. But do two wrongs make a right? Or is this the wake up call we need to put a stop to this kind of government.

What are these TWO wrongs? On one hand a paying customer is asking for the exact same services a vendor supplies to all his other customers. These paying customers are not demanding anything not normally provided by the vendor. No special or unusual items, nothing above and beyond the services otherwise provided. Please stop me and point out what is wrong about that.

On the other hand, a vendor is refusing service to paying customers due to who those customers happen to be. Refusal due to their legal lifestyle. Refusal simply because the vendor finds that customer's lifestyle to be "icky". Is this fair? Does this mercantile approval of lifestyle make the customers who were refused equal to all other customers?

TWO wrongs? I see one blatant wrong and one discriminated paying customer.

You have no right to be served, period.

 

[Katzndogz]

The vendor must go. Must in some way indicate approval of the event every bit as much as an invited guest.

Aside from that, the services required are artistic services. No artist should ever be required to create against their will.

INDICATE APPROVAL?!? Of all the nerve! No wedding needs a mercantile impermatur, a seal of approval from the Association of Tight Assed Wedding Vendors of Pomona. Bake the cake, deliver the cake, end of involvement, period. Who cares if some ignorant uptight, wound too tight for life baker approves of a wedding or not? That's not his call!

Why can't you just go somewhere else to get your cake? Why are you obsessed with forcing people to do things they don't want to do?

Service denied is illegal under Public Accomodation laws. Can't those n*ggers just find another hotel? See the discrimination there?

No. The hotel room is there. Unchanged. Just like a cake sitting on a shelf in the bakery. Now if the black person demanded that the room be redecorated to suit them, now it becomes similar.

 

[bripat9643]

The vendor must go. Must in some way indicate approval of the event every bit as much as an invited guest.

Aside from that, the services required are artistic services. No artist should ever be required to create against their will.

The cake vendor does NOT go to the wedding, nor does the flower vendor. The caterer goes to the reception obviously but not the wedding. The cake vendor or their delivery person takes the cake to the venue and that's it.

Only on reality TV does the cake vendor appear at the event.

It doesn't matter. The cake vendor has a natural right to refuse anyone for any reason.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The vendor must go. Must in some way indicate approval of the event every bit as much as an invited guest.

Aside from that, the services required are artistic services. No artist should ever be required to create against their will.

INDICATE APPROVAL?!? Of all the nerve! No wedding needs a mercantile impermatur, a seal of approval from the Association of Tight Assed Wedding Vendors of Pomona. Bake the cake, deliver the cake, end of involvement, period. Who cares if some ignorant uptight, wound too tight for life baker approves of a wedding or not? That's not his call!

Why can't you just go somewhere else to get your cake? Why are you obsessed with forcing people to do things they don't want to do?

Selling a cake, when you sell cakes, isn't forcing anyone to do anything they don't already do, their ******* job...

Yes it is, you Nazi asshole. Laws are force, pure and simple. Only a moron or a Nazi would deny it.

You are incapable of growing up, Bripiss. All rules make you angry, like any other diaper-pissing infant.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The vendor must go. Must in some way indicate approval of the event every bit as much as an invited guest.

Aside from that, the services required are artistic services. No artist should ever be required to create against their will.

The cake vendor does NOT go to the wedding, nor does the flower vendor. The caterer goes to the reception obviously but not the wedding. The cake vendor or their delivery person takes the cake to the venue and that's it.

Only on reality TV does the cake vendor appear at the event.

It doesn't matter. The cake vendor has a natural right to refuse anyone for any reason.

"Natural" rights are not the laws here, Bripiss.

 

[Katzndogz]

Some weddings don't even have elaborate wedding cakes. A Styrofoam mock up is rented for show and the guests are actually served sheet cakes.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

No, when you try to force someone to do something they don't want to do, its not tolerance, its acceptance. Tolerating is not actively trying to suppress something. What your side wants is acceptance, and using the law to get it is short sighted, and wrong.

Conservatives have been doing that for years.

Your side just is upset that gays are actually using the law that protects them from discrimination.

This is very true. But do two wrongs make a right? Or is this the wake up call we need to put a stop to this kind of government.

What are these TWO wrongs? On one hand a paying customer is asking for the exact same services a vendor supplies to all his other customers. These paying customers are not demanding anything not normally provided by the vendor. No special or unusual items, nothing above and beyond the services otherwise provided. Please stop me and point out what is wrong about that.

On the other hand, a vendor is refusing service to paying customers due to who those customers happen to be. Refusal due to their legal lifestyle. Refusal simply because the vendor finds that customer's lifestyle to be "icky". Is this fair? Does this mercantile approval of lifestyle make the customers who were refused equal to all other customers?

TWO wrongs? I see one blatant wrong and one discriminated paying customer.

You have no right to be served, period.

Why you make this argument, Bripiss, I have no idea, since it's entirely untrue and the courts decided that decades ago. I know, my little infant, to you the rulings of the courts don't matter either,

 

[bripat9643]

The vendor must go. Must in some way indicate approval of the event every bit as much as an invited guest.

Aside from that, the services required are artistic services. No artist should ever be required to create against their will.

INDICATE APPROVAL?!? Of all the nerve! No wedding needs a mercantile impermatur, a seal of approval from the Association of Tight Assed Wedding Vendors of Pomona. Bake the cake, deliver the cake, end of involvement, period. Who cares if some ignorant uptight, wound too tight for life baker approves of a wedding or not? That's not his call!

If the baker cares, that's all that matters. You don't get to decide what is important for other people. Only a dumbass liberal would think he's entitled to make decisions for others.

 

[mdk]

The people are siding with the Christians.

Uh, no, they really aren't.


With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule this spring on whether same-sex couples nationwide should have the right to marry, a gay rights organization on Friday released a new survey showing support for gay marriage at 60 percent among likely voters in the 2016 election.

Read more: Poll 60 percent of likely voters back gay marriage - Steven Shepard - POLITICO

Oh, but it gets worse for you guys.

Polling Finds Growing Acceptance of Gay Marriage and a Gay President - Washington Wire - WSJ

Every time there has been a referendum, gay marriage has been voted down.

The states of Washington, Maryland, and Minnesota prove your statement to be incorrect.

You're wrong about Minnisota.

So you have two states where a referendum failed to overturn legislation that legalized gay marriage. Now, how many states approved referendums against gay marriage? Turds like you talk about the will of the people when it's in your favor, but you don't give a crap about it when they people vote against you.

So much for "every time" gay marriage has been voted down nonsense. Clearly that isn't the case. You made an error and now you want to move the goal posts.

 

[bripat9643]

No, when you try to force someone to do something they don't want to do, its not tolerance, its acceptance. Tolerating is not actively trying to suppress something. What your side wants is acceptance, and using the law to get it is short sighted, and wrong.

Conservatives have been doing that for years.

Your side just is upset that gays are actually using the law that protects them from discrimination.

This is very true. But do two wrongs make a right? Or is this the wake up call we need to put a stop to this kind of government.

What are these TWO wrongs? On one hand a paying customer is asking for the exact same services a vendor supplies to all his other customers. These paying customers are not demanding anything not normally provided by the vendor. No special or unusual items, nothing above and beyond the services otherwise provided. Please stop me and point out what is wrong about that.

On the other hand, a vendor is refusing service to paying customers due to who those customers happen to be. Refusal due to their legal lifestyle. Refusal simply because the vendor finds that customer's lifestyle to be "icky". Is this fair? Does this mercantile approval of lifestyle make the customers who were refused equal to all other customers?

TWO wrongs? I see one blatant wrong and one discriminated paying customer.

You have no right to be served, period.

Why you make this argument, Bripiss, I have no idea, since it's entirely untrue and the courts decided that decades ago. I know, my little infant, to you the rulings of the courts don't matter either,

I'm not talking about the law, you Nazi asshole. I'm talking about rights. The law in Germany ruled that the government could put Jews in concentration camps. That's what you endorse when you use the law to justify your case.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The vendor must go. Must in some way indicate approval of the event every bit as much as an invited guest.

Aside from that, the services required are artistic services. No artist should ever be required to create against their will.

INDICATE APPROVAL?!? Of all the nerve! No wedding needs a mercantile impermatur, a seal of approval from the Association of Tight Assed Wedding Vendors of Pomona. Bake the cake, deliver the cake, end of involvement, period. Who cares if some ignorant uptight, wound too tight for life baker approves of a wedding or not? That's not his call!

If the baker cares, that's all that matters. You don't get to decide what is important for other people. Only a dumbass liberal would think he's entitled to make decisions for others.

Move to an island of one, my little infant. There you can have your cherished anarchy but here we have society, meaning laws, rules, and expectations of behavior. That's not something infants like ergo you.

 

[bripat9643]

The people are siding with the Christians.

Uh, no, they really aren't.


With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule this spring on whether same-sex couples nationwide should have the right to marry, a gay rights organization on Friday released a new survey showing support for gay marriage at 60 percent among likely voters in the 2016 election.

Read more: Poll 60 percent of likely voters back gay marriage - Steven Shepard - POLITICO

Oh, but it gets worse for you guys.

Polling Finds Growing Acceptance of Gay Marriage and a Gay President - Washington Wire - WSJ

Every time there has been a referendum, gay marriage has been voted down.

The states of Washington, Maryland, and Minnesota prove your statement to be incorrect.

You're wrong about Minnisota.

So you have two states where a referendum failed to overturn legislation that legalized gay marriage. Now, how many states approved referendums against gay marriage? Turds like you talk about the will of the people when it's in your favor, but you don't give a crap about it when they people vote against you.

So much for "every time" gay marriage has been voted down nonsense. Clearly that isn't the case. You made an error and now you want to move the goal posts.

You and your ilk are still using unelected judges to ram your agenda down the throats of the vast majority of Americans.