Rules For Traditionals: How People In Wedding Trades Can Defend Themselves

[danielpalos]

A Jewish baker can't be forced to bake a "Praise Hitler" cake because there is no law requiring it.

A Jewish baker can be required to bake a cake for a German, even if he blames Germans for the Holocaust, and he can be required to bake a cake for a Christian even if he believes that Christians are apostates.

And if the German wants to commemorate Hitlers birthday, he has freedom of expression. Why should the Jewish baker deny such a right?

It only sounds like a personnel management problem. Is there no qualified labor that is willing to be paid to make a cake regardless of the ArtWork?

Can't wait until the baker has to hire hundreds of more employees!

Now that's a JOBS PROGRAM!

Only the right would try to manufacture a jobs program out if it; it Only takes one person to make a cake.

Sarcasm is beyond you.

Got it!

nothing but sarcasm and that form of fallacy for your Cause; got it.

some on the left prefer results to the excuse of sarcasm

 

[Seawytch]

A customer is stripped of dignity when a vendor says she is not worthy of service due to her legal lifestyle.

I suggest the strip-ee grow a freaking spine.

So basically its all about acceptance, right?

news flash, it isn't right to use the government to force people to accept other people.

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

You don't have to be married to procreate and vice versa. Gays marrying will stop you from procreating? Can't stop thinking about gays having sex, huh?

More married women in U.S. aren t having children - latimes

 

[Nosmo King]

A customer is stripped of dignity when a vendor says she is not worthy of service due to her legal lifestyle.

I suggest the strip-ee grow a freaking spine.

So basically its all about acceptance, right?

news flash, it isn't right to use the government to force people to accept other people.

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

What?!?

I'm wondering about the upside of being a bigot.

And procreation is not a requirement for marriage.

 

[Pop23]

I suggest the strip-ee grow a freaking spine.

So basically its all about acceptance, right?

news flash, it isn't right to use the government to force people to accept other people.

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

You don't have to be married to procreate and vice versa. Gays marrying will stop you from procreating? Can't stop thinking about gays having sex, huh?

More married women in U.S. aren t having children - latimes

Lol, no same sex coupling has ever created a child. Not one.

Can't stop thinking about hetros having sex AND PROCREATING, huh?

I'd say you're butt hurt, but that's cliche.

 

[Pop23]

I suggest the strip-ee grow a freaking spine.

So basically its all about acceptance, right?

news flash, it isn't right to use the government to force people to accept other people.

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

What?!?

I'm wondering about the upside of being a bigot.

And procreation is not a requirement for marriage.

It does however, make the two demographic groups different.

Oh, and biological reality can't be bigoted.

But nice dodge b

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A customer is stripped of dignity when a vendor says she is not worthy of service due to her legal lifestyle.

I suggest the strip-ee grow a freaking spine.

So basically its all about acceptance, right?

news flash, it isn't right to use the government to force people to accept other people.

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

And consequently you'll advocate that infertile opposite-sex couples be prohibited from marrying as well.

 

[bripat9643]

So you believe a Jewish baker should be forced to bake a Praise Hitler cake.

Kinda reminds me of other forced labor the Jews were forced to do.

How sweet.

A Jewish baker can't be forced to bake a "Praise Hitler" cake because there is no law requiring it.

A Jewish baker can be required to bake a cake for a German, even if he blames Germans for the Holocaust, and he can be required to bake a cake for a Christian even if he believes that Christians are apostates.

The you just illustrated the absurdity of the law.

There is only the legal fiction of anarchy; the law may cover every Thing in some federal districts.

You don't even understand the meaning of the words you use, do you?

only Persons who are incompetent, say that.

Oh wow, that was soooooo clever..

 

[bripat9643]

I suggest the strip-ee grow a freaking spine.

So basically its all about acceptance, right?

news flash, it isn't right to use the government to force people to accept other people.

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

And consequently you'll advocate that infertile opposite-sex couples be prohibited from marrying as well.

You can campaign for that if that's what floats your boat.

 

[Nosmo King]

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

And consequently you'll advocate that infertile opposite-sex couples be prohibited from marrying as well.

You can campaign for that if that's what floats your boat.

Dodging my questions? Are they too challenging for honesty?

 

[Pop23]

I suggest the strip-ee grow a freaking spine.

So basically its all about acceptance, right?

news flash, it isn't right to use the government to force people to accept other people.

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

And consequently you'll advocate that infertile opposite-sex couples be prohibited from marrying as well.

Oh, quite the opposite. They belong to a demographic that has supplied every human being that ever walked the face of the earth, cuz only opposite gender couples are required.

That means, every.......

Cop
Firefighter
Teacher
Accountant
Lawyer
Plumber
Nurse
Doctor
AND
Everyone else

Are the product of opposite gender coupling.

Oh, and not one was ever produced by a same sex coupling.

 

[Nosmo King]

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

And consequently you'll advocate that infertile opposite-sex couples be prohibited from marrying as well.

Oh, quite the opposite. They belong to a demographic that has supplied every human being that ever walked the face of the earth, cuz only opposite gender couples are required.

That means, every.......

Cop
Firefighter
Teacher
Accountant
Lawyer
Plumber
Nurse
Doctor
AND
Everyone else

Are the product of opposite gender coupling.

Oh, and not one was ever produced by a same sex coupling.

Is procreation a prerequisite for a marriage license?

 

[Pop23]

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

And consequently you'll advocate that infertile opposite-sex couples be prohibited from marrying as well.

Oh, quite the opposite. They belong to a demographic that has supplied every human being that ever walked the face of the earth, cuz only opposite gender couples are required.

That means, every.......

Cop
Firefighter
Teacher
Accountant
Lawyer
Plumber
Nurse
Doctor
AND
Everyone else

Are the product of opposite gender coupling.

Oh, and not one was ever produced by a same sex coupling.

Is procreation a prerequisite for a marriage license?

See above.

Membership in the demographic group that can should be.

 

[bripat9643]

I suggest the strip-ee grow a freaking spine.

So basically its all about acceptance, right?

news flash, it isn't right to use the government to force people to accept other people.

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

What?!?

I'm wondering about the upside of being a bigot.

And procreation is not a requirement for marriage.

You don't have to own a car to obtain a driver's license, but we all know why the state issues driver's license. Likewise, we know why the state issues marriage licenses. It isn't so Adam and Steve can get government benefits for committing sodomy. Marriages licenses exist for the protection of mothers and children. When Adam or Steve can become pregnant from performing anal sex, perhaps then they'll have a legitimate reason for being granted a marriage license.

 

[Marxist]

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

What?!?

I'm wondering about the upside of being a bigot.

And procreation is not a requirement for marriage.

You don't have to own a car to obtain a driver's license, but we all know why the state issues driver's license. Likewise, we know why the state issues marriage licenses. It isn't so Adam and Steve can get government benefits for committing sodomy. Marriages licenses exist for the protection of mothers and children. When Adam or Steve can become pregnant from performing anal sex, perhaps then they'll have a legitimate reason for being granted a marriage license.

Homophobic douchebag bripat showing his true colors. Don't knock anal sex until you've tried it

 

[Nosmo King]

So, cake is the measure of dignity?

If you're that stupid, than you're not worthy of dignity.

A customer is stripped of dignity when a vendor says she is not worthy of service due to her legal lifestyle.

I suggest the strip-ee grow a freaking spine.

So basically its all about acceptance, right?

news flash, it isn't right to use the government to force people to accept other people.

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

Bump for Britpat9643

 

[bripat9643]

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

What?!?

I'm wondering about the upside of being a bigot.

And procreation is not a requirement for marriage.

You don't have to own a car to obtain a driver's license, but we all know why the state issues driver's license. Likewise, we know why the state issues marriage licenses. It isn't so Adam and Steve can get government benefits for committing sodomy. Marriages licenses exist for the protection of mothers and children. When Adam or Steve can become pregnant from performing anal sex, perhaps then they'll have a legitimate reason for being granted a marriage license.

Homophobic douchebag bripat showing his true colors. Don't knock anal sex until you've tried it

I didn't take a position on it one way or another. I just said it's not a justification for the state to issue you a marriage license. You totally dodged that issue.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Don't knock anal sex until you've tried it

^^^^ Leftwat logic

Don't knock cyanide until you've tried it.

 

[bripat9643]

So, cake is the measure of dignity?

If you're that stupid, than you're not worthy of dignity.

A customer is stripped of dignity when a vendor says she is not worthy of service due to her legal lifestyle.

I suggest the strip-ee grow a freaking spine.

So basically its all about acceptance, right?

news flash, it isn't right to use the government to force people to accept other people.

Not about acceptance with a capital "A" but tolerance. Why should someone be so intolerant that commerce and dignity are sacrificed?

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

Other people's goals are none of you business. They are entitled to serve their own purposes rather than yours.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

And consequently you'll advocate that infertile opposite-sex couples be prohibited from marrying as well.

Oh, quite the opposite. They belong to a demographic that has supplied every human being that ever walked the face of the earth, cuz only opposite gender couples are required.

That means, every.......

Cop
Firefighter
Teacher
Accountant
Lawyer
Plumber
Nurse
Doctor
AND
Everyone else

Are the product of opposite gender coupling.

Oh, and not one was ever produced by a same sex coupling.

Is procreation a prerequisite for a marriage license?

No, it is not.

Which is why the 'procreation argument' used by those hostile to the equal protection rights of same-sex couples fails.

Indeed, all the arguments used by those hostile to the equal protection rights of same-sex couples fail, which is why the courts have invalidated measures seeking to deny gay Americans their 14th Amendment rights.

The 'tradition' argument fails, see Lawrence v. Texas.

The 'polygamist' argument fails as a slippery slope fallacy, as marriage law can accommodate only two persons, same- or opposite-sex.

The 'redefining marriage' argument fails, as recognizing the right of same-sex couples to access marriage law in no way 'changes' marriage, because same-sex couples are currently eligible to enter into marriage contracts, marriage unaltered and not 'redefined.'

The 'religious marriage' argument fails, as the 14th Amendment jurisprudence requiring the states to allow same-sex couples to marry applies solely to government, not private persons or organizations, such as churches.

The 'civil unions' argument fails, as separate but equal is just as repugnant to the Constitution as seeking to deny same-sex couples access to marriage law they're eligible to participate in.

In fact, there is no rational basis in support of denying same-sex couples to marry, it is devoid of objective, documented evidence is support, and it pursues no proper legislative end – measures seeking to deny same-sex couples access to marriage law are motivated solely by animus toward gay Americans, only to make gay Americans different from everyone else; this the states cannot do. A state cannot so deem a class of persons a stranger to its laws, including marriage law.

 

[hipeter924]

What difference does it make? Why should someone be so stupid that they can't understand that your preference aren't always what matters? Other people have different priorities.

Different purposes. To what end? What are these purposes?

To perpetuate petty repression? To continue to make others unworthy? To make those different from you feel less than they are?

Why? What good comes of all that fear and hate?

We live in a society and, occasionally, folks will have to interact with each other.

And all that ignorance, suspicion and fear is accomplishing what goal? What is the benefit of being nothing other than a self righteous bully?

and don't forget child creation


That's kinda important

And consequently you'll advocate that infertile opposite-sex couples be prohibited from marrying as well.

You can campaign for that if that's what floats your boat.

Dodging my questions? Are they too challenging for honesty?

Bripat disses everyone he doesn't like, but he has favorite 'liberals' he enjoys picking on. So I wouldn't take it personally, as he hates all 'liberals' equally, lol.