It would appear yet another global warming belief is proven to be...all wet.
Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told' - Telegraph
Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told' - Telegraph
Rising Sea Levels "The Greatest Lie Ever Told"
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Old Rocks
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Real information, not bullshit.
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Warming water and melting land ice have raised global mean sea level 4.5 centimeters (1.7 inches) from 1993 to 2008. But the rise is by no means uniform. This image, created with sea surface height data from the Topex/Poseidon and Jason-1 satellites, shows exactly where sea level has changed during this time and how quickly these changes have occurred.
It’s also a road map showing where the ocean currently stores the growing amount of heat it is absorbing from Earth’s atmosphere and the heat it receives directly from the Sun. The warmer the water, the higher the sea surface rises. The location of heat in the ocean and its movement around the globe play a pivotal role in Earth’s climate.
Light blue indicates areas in which sea level has remained relatively constant since 1993. White, red, and yellow are regions where sea levels have risen the most rapidly—up to 10 millimeters per year—and which contain the most heat. Green areas have also risen, but more moderately. Purple and dark blue show where sea levels have dropped, due to cooler water.
The dramatic variation in sea surface heights and heat content across the ocean are due to winds, currents and long-term changes in patterns of circulation. From 1993 to 2008, the largest area of rapidly rising sea levels and the greatest concentration of heat has been in the Pacific, which now shows the characteristics of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO), a feature that can last 10 to 20 years or even longer.
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Warming water and melting land ice have raised global mean sea level 4.5 centimeters (1.7 inches) from 1993 to 2008. But the rise is by no means uniform. This image, created with sea surface height data from the Topex/Poseidon and Jason-1 satellites, shows exactly where sea level has changed during this time and how quickly these changes have occurred.
It’s also a road map showing where the ocean currently stores the growing amount of heat it is absorbing from Earth’s atmosphere and the heat it receives directly from the Sun. The warmer the water, the higher the sea surface rises. The location of heat in the ocean and its movement around the globe play a pivotal role in Earth’s climate.
Light blue indicates areas in which sea level has remained relatively constant since 1993. White, red, and yellow are regions where sea levels have risen the most rapidly—up to 10 millimeters per year—and which contain the most heat. Green areas have also risen, but more moderately. Purple and dark blue show where sea levels have dropped, due to cooler water.
The dramatic variation in sea surface heights and heat content across the ocean are due to winds, currents and long-term changes in patterns of circulation. From 1993 to 2008, the largest area of rapidly rising sea levels and the greatest concentration of heat has been in the Pacific, which now shows the characteristics of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO), a feature that can last 10 to 20 years or even longer.
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During the history of the Earth, sea levels have varied dramatically from present conditions. During the peak of the last ice age 18,000-20,000 years ago, sea level is estimated to have been about 120 meters (400 feet) lower than it is now. If the vast ice sheets covering Greenland and Antarctica were to melt completely, sea level would rise approximately 80 meters (260 feet) higher than the current value.
Today's concerns about rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere and the resulting warming of the world are tied closely to rises in the height of the oceans. In the past, higher atmospheric carbon dioxide levels correlated to elevated global temperatures. Temperature changes of only a few degrees have resulted in dramatic expansion and shrinkage of polar ice and glaciers, leading to pronounced sea level changes.
Sea Level Deluxe for World Wind allows you to explore the range of sea levels from distant prehistory to potential future scenarios. It is a greatly expanded version of the popular free Sea Level Standard add-on. It contains many added new features, including higher resolution, more maps, contours, flood zones and at-risk cities.
During the history of the Earth, sea levels have varied dramatically from present conditions. During the peak of the last ice age 18,000-20,000 years ago, sea level is estimated to have been about 120 meters (400 feet) lower than it is now. If the vast ice sheets covering Greenland and Antarctica were to melt completely, sea level would rise approximately 80 meters (260 feet) higher than the current value.
Today's concerns about rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere and the resulting warming of the world are tied closely to rises in the height of the oceans. In the past, higher atmospheric carbon dioxide levels correlated to elevated global temperatures. Temperature changes of only a few degrees have resulted in dramatic expansion and shrinkage of polar ice and glaciers, leading to pronounced sea level changes.
Sea Level Deluxe for World Wind allows you to explore the range of sea levels from distant prehistory to potential future scenarios. It is a greatly expanded version of the popular free Sea Level Standard add-on. It contains many added new features, including higher resolution, more maps, contours, flood zones and at-risk cities.
During the history of the Earth, sea levels have varied dramatically from present conditions. During the peak of the last ice age 18,000-20,000 years ago, sea level is estimated to have been about 120 meters (400 feet) lower than it is now. If the vast ice sheets covering Greenland and Antarctica were to melt completely, sea level would rise approximately 80 meters (260 feet) higher than the current value.
Today's concerns about rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere and the resulting warming of the world are tied closely to rises in the height of the oceans. In the past, higher atmospheric carbon dioxide levels correlated to elevated global temperatures. Temperature changes of only a few degrees have resulted in dramatic expansion and shrinkage of polar ice and glaciers, leading to pronounced sea level changes.
Sea Level Deluxe for World Wind allows you to explore the range of sea levels from distant prehistory to potential future scenarios. It is a greatly expanded version of the popular free Sea Level Standard add-on. It contains many added new features, including higher resolution, more maps, contours, flood zones and at-risk cities.
Sea Level Deluxe for NASA World Wind
Today's concerns about rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere and the resulting warming of the world are tied closely to rises in the height of the oceans. In the past, higher atmospheric carbon dioxide levels correlated to elevated global temperatures. Temperature changes of only a few degrees have resulted in dramatic expansion and shrinkage of polar ice and glaciers, leading to pronounced sea level changes.
Sea Level Deluxe for World Wind allows you to explore the range of sea levels from distant prehistory to potential future scenarios. It is a greatly expanded version of the popular free Sea Level Standard add-on. It contains many added new features, including higher resolution, more maps, contours, flood zones and at-risk cities.
During the history of the Earth, sea levels have varied dramatically from present conditions. During the peak of the last ice age 18,000-20,000 years ago, sea level is estimated to have been about 120 meters (400 feet) lower than it is now. If the vast ice sheets covering Greenland and Antarctica were to melt completely, sea level would rise approximately 80 meters (260 feet) higher than the current value.
Today's concerns about rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere and the resulting warming of the world are tied closely to rises in the height of the oceans. In the past, higher atmospheric carbon dioxide levels correlated to elevated global temperatures. Temperature changes of only a few degrees have resulted in dramatic expansion and shrinkage of polar ice and glaciers, leading to pronounced sea level changes.
Sea Level Deluxe for World Wind allows you to explore the range of sea levels from distant prehistory to potential future scenarios. It is a greatly expanded version of the popular free Sea Level Standard add-on. It contains many added new features, including higher resolution, more maps, contours, flood zones and at-risk cities.
During the history of the Earth, sea levels have varied dramatically from present conditions. During the peak of the last ice age 18,000-20,000 years ago, sea level is estimated to have been about 120 meters (400 feet) lower than it is now. If the vast ice sheets covering Greenland and Antarctica were to melt completely, sea level would rise approximately 80 meters (260 feet) higher than the current value.
Today's concerns about rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere and the resulting warming of the world are tied closely to rises in the height of the oceans. In the past, higher atmospheric carbon dioxide levels correlated to elevated global temperatures. Temperature changes of only a few degrees have resulted in dramatic expansion and shrinkage of polar ice and glaciers, leading to pronounced sea level changes.
Sea Level Deluxe for World Wind allows you to explore the range of sea levels from distant prehistory to potential future scenarios. It is a greatly expanded version of the popular free Sea Level Standard add-on. It contains many added new features, including higher resolution, more maps, contours, flood zones and at-risk cities.
Sea Level Deluxe for NASA World Wind
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And this is not new information
This column is provided as a public service by the Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks, in cooperation with the UAF research community. Ned Rozell is a science writer at the institute.
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During the last four billion years, Earth has many times flip-flopped from a cold, icy sphere to a greener, warmer place. We’re currently in the latter state, a time scientists call “interglacial” because they expect another ice age to follow. Or will it? Sea level is the highest it has been in 250,000 years, and a warming climate may be stalling Earth’s natural cycle of hot and cold periods.
Robert Bindschadler’s goal is to find the culprit in the rising of the world’s oceans, which have crept up more than 375 feet since the last ice age. Bindschadler, a glaciologist with the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center who visited Fairbanks last week, said oceans have swelled since the last ice age because glaciers and immense sheets of ice have melted. While drastic sea level rises between ice ages are normal, Bindschadler said the planet might never have seen a warm spell like the present one. He wants to learn more about the current sea level rise by looking at Earth’s ice from above.
Satellites orbiting 500 miles above Earth provide a good look at the larger portions of the world’s ice supply, 90 percent of which is in Antarctica. Antarctica consists of several massive fields of ice, but the smallest one is the most compelling to Bindschadler and others studying sea level rise. The west Antarctic ice sheet, which is about the size of Mexico, might be the main contributor to sea level rise now and in the future. Since the last ice age ended about 20,000 years ago, the west Antarctic ice sheet has lost two-thirds of its mass, probably adding about 30 feet to sea level worldwide. Bindschadler said the west Antarctic ice sits on a bed of slippery ocean sediment rather than bedrock, which means it may collapse into the sea. If the whole ice sheet calves into the sea, it will raise sea level in the world’s oceans another 15 feet.
In 2001, NASA will launch a satellite that will use a laser beam to measure the size of glaciers and ice sheets. The satellite will shoot the beam down to the ice surface, then record the time it takes for the beam to be reflected. Scientists will check the elevation of ice fields and later compare the information with new readings to see how much melting, calving, or ice growth occurred between satellite passes.
The new satellite may allow scientists to find out how fast sea level might rise in the future, a statistic that affects most of the people on Earth. Bindschadler said two-to-three billion people live in coastal areas of the world, and a three-foot rise in sea level will slowly destroy as much as $475 billion worth of homes and property in the U.S. alone. He said the rising of the world’s oceans also makes him wonder if people, through the emission of greenhouse gases, have disrupted the planet’s natural succession from ice age to warming period to ice age.
“Sea level is the highest it’s ever been and climate is about as warm as it’s ever been,” Bindschadler said. “We’re really moving into uncharted territory.”
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This column is provided as a public service by the Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks, in cooperation with the UAF research community. Ned Rozell is a science writer at the institute.
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During the last four billion years, Earth has many times flip-flopped from a cold, icy sphere to a greener, warmer place. We’re currently in the latter state, a time scientists call “interglacial” because they expect another ice age to follow. Or will it? Sea level is the highest it has been in 250,000 years, and a warming climate may be stalling Earth’s natural cycle of hot and cold periods.
Robert Bindschadler’s goal is to find the culprit in the rising of the world’s oceans, which have crept up more than 375 feet since the last ice age. Bindschadler, a glaciologist with the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center who visited Fairbanks last week, said oceans have swelled since the last ice age because glaciers and immense sheets of ice have melted. While drastic sea level rises between ice ages are normal, Bindschadler said the planet might never have seen a warm spell like the present one. He wants to learn more about the current sea level rise by looking at Earth’s ice from above.
Satellites orbiting 500 miles above Earth provide a good look at the larger portions of the world’s ice supply, 90 percent of which is in Antarctica. Antarctica consists of several massive fields of ice, but the smallest one is the most compelling to Bindschadler and others studying sea level rise. The west Antarctic ice sheet, which is about the size of Mexico, might be the main contributor to sea level rise now and in the future. Since the last ice age ended about 20,000 years ago, the west Antarctic ice sheet has lost two-thirds of its mass, probably adding about 30 feet to sea level worldwide. Bindschadler said the west Antarctic ice sits on a bed of slippery ocean sediment rather than bedrock, which means it may collapse into the sea. If the whole ice sheet calves into the sea, it will raise sea level in the world’s oceans another 15 feet.
In 2001, NASA will launch a satellite that will use a laser beam to measure the size of glaciers and ice sheets. The satellite will shoot the beam down to the ice surface, then record the time it takes for the beam to be reflected. Scientists will check the elevation of ice fields and later compare the information with new readings to see how much melting, calving, or ice growth occurred between satellite passes.
The new satellite may allow scientists to find out how fast sea level might rise in the future, a statistic that affects most of the people on Earth. Bindschadler said two-to-three billion people live in coastal areas of the world, and a three-foot rise in sea level will slowly destroy as much as $475 billion worth of homes and property in the U.S. alone. He said the rising of the world’s oceans also makes him wonder if people, through the emission of greenhouse gases, have disrupted the planet’s natural succession from ice age to warming period to ice age.
“Sea level is the highest it’s ever been and climate is about as warm as it’s ever been,” Bindschadler said. “We’re really moving into uncharted territory.”
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Don't know if the OP is true or not but I watched this on NOVA. It was fascinating.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/extremeice/program.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/extremeice/program.html
Old Rocks
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Good program. We will find out soon enough how accurate the predictions are.
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How much is Exxon paying you? Simply explore what real scientists are saying concerning sea level and the cryosphere.
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RetiredGySgt
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So it is your contention the Link is written by a NON Scientist?
KittenKoder
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If the water levels were truly rising, then Seattle would already be in the water. Look it up, our city is shifting into the water an inch a year almost, if the water level was rising even close enough to measure our waterfront would already be gone.
KittenKoder
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"An Inconvenient Truth" just shows how far environuts will lie ... nothing more, none of it was even based on fact.
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Nils-Axel Mörner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Views on sea level change
Morner disagrees with the widely held view of past and future sea level change. A recent booklet The Greatest Lie Ever Told, published by Morner, refers to observational records of sea levels for the past 300 years that show variations - ups and downs, but no significant trend.[1] This contrasts with the usual view that sea level rise has been occurring at 2-3 mm/yr over the last century.[2] Morner asserts that satellite altimetry data indicate a mean rise in the order of 1.0 mm/yr from 1986 to 1996,[3] whereas most studies find a value around 3 mm/yr.
Morner argues that sea level rise will not exceed 200 mm, within a range of either +100±100 mm or +50±150 mm depending on assumptions.[4]
In 2004 the president of INQUA wrote that INQUA did not subscribe to Morner's views on climate change.[5]
In 2000 he launched an international sea level research project in the Maldives which claims to demonstrate an absence of signs of any on-going sea level rise. Despite President Gayoom speaking in the past about the impending dangers to his country,[6] the Maldives, Morner concluded that the people of the Maldives have in the past survived a higher sea level about 50-60 cm and there is evidence of a significant sea level fall in the last 30 years in that Indian Ocean area.[7][8]
In an interview in June, 2007, Morner described research he had done in the Maldives that had been reported in the documentary Doomsday Called Off. Specifically, he mentioned a tree he had discovered growing close to the shoreline as evidence to support his claim that sea level had actually fallen rather than risen. He also reported that the tree had been deliberately destroyed by a group of Australian researchers who were promoting the IPCC view that sea level was rising. [1]
[edit] Views on "water--witching" and "Dowsing"
Mörner has written a number of works claiming to provide theoretical support for dowsing, also known as water witching. [2]
Views on sea level change
Morner disagrees with the widely held view of past and future sea level change. A recent booklet The Greatest Lie Ever Told, published by Morner, refers to observational records of sea levels for the past 300 years that show variations - ups and downs, but no significant trend.[1] This contrasts with the usual view that sea level rise has been occurring at 2-3 mm/yr over the last century.[2] Morner asserts that satellite altimetry data indicate a mean rise in the order of 1.0 mm/yr from 1986 to 1996,[3] whereas most studies find a value around 3 mm/yr.
Morner argues that sea level rise will not exceed 200 mm, within a range of either +100±100 mm or +50±150 mm depending on assumptions.[4]
In 2004 the president of INQUA wrote that INQUA did not subscribe to Morner's views on climate change.[5]
In 2000 he launched an international sea level research project in the Maldives which claims to demonstrate an absence of signs of any on-going sea level rise. Despite President Gayoom speaking in the past about the impending dangers to his country,[6] the Maldives, Morner concluded that the people of the Maldives have in the past survived a higher sea level about 50-60 cm and there is evidence of a significant sea level fall in the last 30 years in that Indian Ocean area.[7][8]
In an interview in June, 2007, Morner described research he had done in the Maldives that had been reported in the documentary Doomsday Called Off. Specifically, he mentioned a tree he had discovered growing close to the shoreline as evidence to support his claim that sea level had actually fallen rather than risen. He also reported that the tree had been deliberately destroyed by a group of Australian researchers who were promoting the IPCC view that sea level was rising. [1]
[edit] Views on "water--witching" and "Dowsing"
Mörner has written a number of works claiming to provide theoretical support for dowsing, also known as water witching. [2]
LOL! Seattle is a little higher than 3 inches above sea level. The oceans don't rise that fast. Ocean levels have been raising for hundreds of years long before global warming was ever coined. And yes, that marshy land that downtown was built on is moving (it was also originally their sewage dump, funny). Shoulda stayed up on first hill, even Native Americans new better than settle in that low lying area.
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Morner is an interesting figure to be sure. In this interview he clearly explains the disparity between the claims of rising seas and the reality, as well as enlightening us on the profit and political driven motivations behind the entire global warming industry:
Sea Levels Are not rising except in the lies of the IPCC
Sea Levels Are not rising except in the lies of the IPCC
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From the Article:
"One of his most shocking discoveries was why the IPCC has been able to show sea levels rising by 2.3mm a year. Until 2003, even its own satellite-based evidence showed no upward trend. But suddenly the graph tilted upwards because the IPCC's favoured experts had drawn on the finding of a single tide-gauge in Hong Kong harbour showing a 2.3mm rise. The entire global sea-level projection was then adjusted upwards by a "corrective factor" of 2.3mm, because, as the IPCC scientists admitted, they "needed to show a trend".
When I spoke to Dr Mörner last week, he expressed his continuing dismay at how the IPCC has fed the scare on this crucial issue. When asked to act as an "expert reviewer" on the IPCC's last two reports, he was "astonished to find that not one of their 22 contributing authors on sea levels was a sea level specialist: not one". Yet the results of all this "deliberate ignorance" and reliance on rigged computer models have become the most powerful single driver of the entire warmist hysteria."
"One of his most shocking discoveries was why the IPCC has been able to show sea levels rising by 2.3mm a year. Until 2003, even its own satellite-based evidence showed no upward trend. But suddenly the graph tilted upwards because the IPCC's favoured experts had drawn on the finding of a single tide-gauge in Hong Kong harbour showing a 2.3mm rise. The entire global sea-level projection was then adjusted upwards by a "corrective factor" of 2.3mm, because, as the IPCC scientists admitted, they "needed to show a trend".
When I spoke to Dr Mörner last week, he expressed his continuing dismay at how the IPCC has fed the scare on this crucial issue. When asked to act as an "expert reviewer" on the IPCC's last two reports, he was "astonished to find that not one of their 22 contributing authors on sea levels was a sea level specialist: not one". Yet the results of all this "deliberate ignorance" and reliance on rigged computer models have become the most powerful single driver of the entire warmist hysteria."
You loopy nut cases are groping for anything. At least try to make a case with just a tiny bit of credibility, you come off looking like a fools, jeeez.
link to real, factual data
Is sea level rising?
There is strong evidence that global sea level is rising at an increased rate and will continue to rise during this century.
While studies show that sea levels changed little from AD 0 until 1900, sea levels began to climb in the 20th century.
The two major causes of global sea-level rise are thermal expansion caused by the warming of the oceans (since water expands as it warms) and the loss of land-based ice (such as glaciers and polar ice caps) due to increased melting.
records and research show that sea level has been steadily rising at a rate of 1 to 2.5 millimeters (0.04 to 0.1 inches) per year since 1900.
graph
Sea Levels Trends
link to real, factual data
Is sea level rising?
There is strong evidence that global sea level is rising at an increased rate and will continue to rise during this century.
While studies show that sea levels changed little from AD 0 until 1900, sea levels began to climb in the 20th century.
The two major causes of global sea-level rise are thermal expansion caused by the warming of the oceans (since water expands as it warms) and the loss of land-based ice (such as glaciers and polar ice caps) due to increased melting.
records and research show that sea level has been steadily rising at a rate of 1 to 2.5 millimeters (0.04 to 0.1 inches) per year since 1900.
graph
Sea Levels Trends
KittenKoder
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I am looking at the pier supports right now, from my window ... looks like there is something wrong here, perhaps our city is floating higher each year because in spite of all the sea level rising and our city sliding into the sound more each year, the water beating parts of the support beams goes much higher than the current water level ... strange.
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