Rightwingers, of whom I'm one, let the gay shit go

[SwimExpert]

I really hate to reopen this stupid thread. But I saw this and it supports what many said about where gay marriage will lead:

Polygamy advocates hail judge's ruling in Utah

If I understand correctly, the only thing the polygamists gained was that the prohibition against cohabitation was overturned.

step one in legalizing polygamy

That's a rather bold suggestion. Won't happen unless the Supreme Court is prepared and ready to undo 150 years of case law. Case law that conservatives like Scalia have happily relied upon, no less.

 

[Dot Com]

will freedombecki, warrior102, & kgrill (among others) "let the gay shit go"? Your party is stuck w/ them.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The "gay shit" or as most of us call it, equal rights for the GLBT community is a winner for the Democrats. The GOP would be well served to "let it go" of course but history has shown that they won't.

How the GOP can want this division based on legal behavior to stand but claim that others are divisive is is a source of bemusement for any observer.

What’s sad is that this is an ‘issue’ at all.

 

[P@triot]

The "gay shit" or as most of us call it, equal rights for the GLBT community is a winner for the Democrats. The GOP would be well served to "let it go" of course but history has shown that they won't.

How the GOP can want this division based on legal behavior to stand but claim that others are divisive is is a source of bemusement for any observer.

What’s sad is that this is an ‘issue’ at all.

You're right - but that's what happens with Dumbocrats. Common ****'n sense goes out the door and everything becomes an issue.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Check your christian morality bullshit at the door and LEARN to pick your fights. Gays are a minute voting block but they DO have the support of many others.
Losing elections over trivial bullshit that only affects a few people while the debt and everything else spirals out of control makes no sense.

Lets focus on the things that matter to everyone and stop picking fights that alienate us over small things.

Sin is sin for believers so stop bitching about what Sally does with her tongue when Johnny is no better off when he envies the Harley in his neighbors garage.
If they want to partake in the hell aka marriage give it to them. It's a piece of ******* paper ultimately.

In other words - **** principle, it's time to bend over and prostitute yourself like the Dumbicrats do in order to win elections at all costs? The ends justify the means, just like the liberals who rape their their man-hating misandrist women at Occupy Wall Street movements?

Furthermore, if you believe that marriage is "a piece of ******* paper ultimately" then you are unquestionably one of the most ignorant people here on USMB. You clearly do not understand the issue (like Dumbocrats!). I just lost all respect for you [MENTION=30538]Grampa Murked U[/MENTION]. You're the John-Boehner-liberal-Republican who conservatives need to purge from the party. And believe me, we will.

Is this truly a republican ‘principle,’ to deny citizens their civil liberties?

Or is this the new republican principle of fear and reactionaryism.

 

[bodecea]

will freedombecki, warrior102, & kgrill (among others) "let the gay shit go"? Your party is stuck w/ them.

Yep...those plus Rabbi, Sunni Man, Katzndogz are ALLLLLL yours, Right wing.

 

[bodecea]

Lololol marriage sucks. That's the rub. Marry away you ignorant fools. Lolol

Sorry to hear that. I've been with the same woman for 27 years....but we've only been legally married for over 5 years...ironically religiously married for 23 years.

 

[bodecea]

The "gay shit" or as most of us call it, equal rights for the GLBT community is a winner for the Democrats. The GOP would be well served to "let it go" of course but history has shown that they won't.

How the GOP can want this division based on legal behavior to stand but claim that others are divisive is is a source of bemusement for any observer.

Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.

I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology.

OK, that's ironically funny!

 

[P@triot]

Check your christian morality bullshit at the door and LEARN to pick your fights. Gays are a minute voting block but they DO have the support of many others.
Losing elections over trivial bullshit that only affects a few people while the debt and everything else spirals out of control makes no sense.

Lets focus on the things that matter to everyone and stop picking fights that alienate us over small things.

Sin is sin for believers so stop bitching about what Sally does with her tongue when Johnny is no better off when he envies the Harley in his neighbors garage.
If they want to partake in the hell aka marriage give it to them. It's a piece of ******* paper ultimately.

In other words - **** principle, it's time to bend over and prostitute yourself like the Dumbicrats do in order to win elections at all costs? The ends justify the means, just like the liberals who rape their their man-hating misandrist women at Occupy Wall Street movements?

Furthermore, if you believe that marriage is "a piece of ******* paper ultimately" then you are unquestionably one of the most ignorant people here on USMB. You clearly do not understand the issue (like Dumbocrats!). I just lost all respect for you [MENTION=30538]Grampa Murked U[/MENTION]. You're the John-Boehner-liberal-Republican who conservatives need to purge from the party. And believe me, we will.

Is this truly a republican ‘principle,’ to deny citizens their civil liberties?

Or is this the new republican principle of fear and reactionaryism.

Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.

I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology. Would you like to try again CCJ?

 

[bodecea]

In other words - **** principle, it's time to bend over and prostitute yourself like the Dumbicrats do in order to win elections at all costs? The ends justify the means, just like the liberals who rape their their man-hating misandrist women at Occupy Wall Street movements?

Furthermore, if you believe that marriage is "a piece of ******* paper ultimately" then you are unquestionably one of the most ignorant people here on USMB. You clearly do not understand the issue (like Dumbocrats!). I just lost all respect for you [MENTION=30538]Grampa Murked U[/MENTION]. You're the John-Boehner-liberal-Republican who conservatives need to purge from the party. And believe me, we will.

Is this truly a republican ‘principle,’ to deny citizens their civil liberties?

Or is this the new republican principle of fear and reactionaryism.

Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.

I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology. Would you like to try again CCJ?

Marriage is a fundamental right. And people like you are trying (and beginning to fail) to prevent your fellow law-abiding, tax-paying citizens that fundamental right based on gender.

 

[P@triot]

Is this truly a republican ‘principle,’ to deny citizens their civil liberties?

Or is this the new republican principle of fear and reactionaryism.

Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.

I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology. Would you like to try again CCJ?

Marriage is a fundamental right. And people like you are trying (and beginning to fail) to prevent your fellow law-abiding, tax-paying citizens that fundamental right based on gender.

First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?

Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?

 

[bodecea]

Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.

I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology. Would you like to try again CCJ?

Marriage is a fundamental right. And people like you are trying (and beginning to fail) to prevent your fellow law-abiding, tax-paying citizens that fundamental right based on gender.

First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?

Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?

Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.

 

[Seawytch]

Marriage is a fundamental right. And people like you are trying (and beginning to fail) to prevent your fellow law-abiding, tax-paying citizens that fundamental right based on gender.

First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?



Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?

Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.

And Turner v Safley and Zablocki v Wisconsin.

 

[Seawytch]

In other words - **** principle, it's time to bend over and prostitute yourself like the Dumbicrats do in order to win elections at all costs? The ends justify the means, just like the liberals who rape their their man-hating misandrist women at Occupy Wall Street movements?



Furthermore, if you believe that marriage is "a piece of ******* paper ultimately" then you are unquestionably one of the most ignorant people here on USMB. You clearly do not understand the issue (like Dumbocrats!). I just lost all respect for you [MENTION=30538]Grampa Murked U[/MENTION]. You're the John-Boehner-liberal-Republican who conservatives need to purge from the party. And believe me, we will.

Is this truly a republican ‘principle,’ to deny citizens their civil liberties?



Or is this the new republican principle of fear and reactionaryism.

Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.



I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology. Would you like to try again CCJ?

So if CA decided to pass by initiative a law that prevented all Lutherans from legal marriage, you'd be okay with that?

 

[P@triot]

Marriage is a fundamental right. And people like you are trying (and beginning to fail) to prevent your fellow law-abiding, tax-paying citizens that fundamental right based on gender.

First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?

Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?

Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.

The Supreme Court does not get to alter the Constitution. They do not get to add rights. It really is that simple.

The Constitution can only be altered through the amendment process. Would you like to try again?

 

[bodecea]

Is this truly a republican ‘principle,’ to deny citizens their civil liberties?



Or is this the new republican principle of fear and reactionaryism.

Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.



I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology. Would you like to try again CCJ?

So if CA decided to pass by initiative a law that prevented all Lutherans from legal marriage, you'd be okay with that?

Or if Mississippi passed a law preventing all blue eyed people from marrying. Or Illinois passed a law preventing all left handed people from marrying.....

 

[P@triot]

Marriage is a fundamental right. And people like you are trying (and beginning to fail) to prevent your fellow law-abiding, tax-paying citizens that fundamental right based on gender.

First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?

Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?

Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.

The fact that you are required to obtain a license from the state proves it is not a right. The Supreme Court is not authorized to alter the Constitution. Their ruling in a single case means absolutely nothing outside of that case. They are not empowered to alter the Constitution.

 

[Seawytch]

First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?



Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?

Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.

The Supreme Court does not get to alter the Constitution. They do not get to add rights. It really is that simple.



The Constitution can only be altered through the amendment process. Would you like to try again?

Look up Fundamental Rights. Not all rights are specifically enumerated in the Constitution. It's why we have a justice system.

 

[bodecea]

First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?

Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?

Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.

The fact that you are required to obtain a license from the state proves it is not a right. The Supreme Court is not authorized to alter the Constitution. Their ruling in a single case means absolutely nothing outside of that case. They are not empowered to alter the Constitution.

So...you are completely ignoring the Supreme Court decisions. Delightfully ignorant on your part.

 

[Seawytch]

First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?



Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?

Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.

The fact that you are required to obtain a license from the state proves it is not a right. The Supreme Court is not authorized to alter the Constitution. Their ruling in a single case means absolutely nothing outside of that case. They are not empowered to alter the Constitution.

The SCOTUS disagrees with you (on more than one occasion).