Rights for Pedophiles?

[theHawk]

Well what did you people expect? Most homos are "recruited" when they are children.

So of course the homo enablers want them to be able to "be themselves".

 

[JakeStarkey]

"consent by definition"? WTF does that mean. Children can't consent, and if you are talking about changing the law, people will change the law to jail anyone who even talks about legalizing pedophilia.

Jake--I'm going to leave this one to you to figure out all by yourself. You can do it.

( hint--people are already talking about lowering the age of consent. )

Only those who want sex with children. Those "people . . . already talking" make up less than 1%, I would imagine.

No connection tween gay marriage and lowering age consent for child sex, not causally or legally.

 

[Katzndogz]

The only connection between same sex marriage and lowering the age of consent is that in both instances the law needs to be changed. If the age of consent needs to be lowered so that Kaitlyn Hunt isn't prosecuted, the age of consent will be lowered by the decisions of morally corrupt judges or the impositions of morally corrupt legislators.

 

[dilloduck]

The only connection between same sex marriage and lowering the age of consent is that in both instances the law needs to be changed. If the age of consent needs to be lowered so that Kaitlyn Hunt isn't prosecuted, the age of consent will be lowered by the decisions of morally corrupt judges or the impositions of morally corrupt legislators.

And America is by no means lacking in the corrupt department.

 

[dilloduck]

"consent by definition"? WTF does that mean. Children can't consent, and if you are talking about changing the law, people will change the law to jail anyone who even talks about legalizing pedophilia.

Jake--I'm going to leave this one to you to figure out all by yourself. You can do it.

( hint--people are already talking about lowering the age of consent. )

Only those who want sex with children. Those "people . . . already talking" make up less than 1%, I would imagine.

No connection tween gay marriage and lowering age consent for child sex, not causally or legally.

Changing the norms------think changing the norms, Jake.

 

[GHook93]

Children cannot give consent for sexual acts therefore pedophilia is a crime. What motivates pedophiles is no different to what motivates other criminals. Will serial killers want to use the "I was born that way" defense too?

That is the law NOW, just as the law previously disallowed gay marriage. It can change, just as the gay marriage laws changed. One activist judge can do a lot!

Just as polygamy laws will be challenged using the gay marriage stare decisis as it's ammo, so will the age of consent and anti-pedophillia laws.

I am just being devil's advocate here. I think the age of consent will remain and pedophillia laws will be safe, but you never know. See leftist Western European States of Spain, France, Germany and Italy. Spain age of consent it 13! France is 15! Both Germany and Italy are 14! Those are children in my book!

Ley Orgánica 10/1995, de 23 de noviembre, del Código Penal. TÍTULO VIII.*Delitos contra la libertad e indemnidad sexuales.
http://www.legislationline.org/down...file/e4c081a2fe81d7963b6e937113b6.htm/preview
GERMAN CRIMINAL CODE
Art. 609 C.P.

 

[High_Gravity]

Children cannot give consent for sexual acts therefore pedophilia is a crime. What motivates pedophiles is no different to what motivates other criminals. Will serial killers want to use the "I was born that way" defense too?

That is the law NOW, just as the law previously disallowed gay marriage. It can change, just as the gay marriage laws changed. One activist judge can do a lot!

Just as polygamy laws will be challenged using the gay marriage stare decisis as it's ammo, so will the age of consent and anti-pedophillia laws.

I am just being devil's advocate here. I think the age of consent will remain and pedophillia laws will be safe, but you never know. See leftist Western European States of Spain, France, Germany and Italy. Spain age of consent it 13! France is 15! Both Germany and Italy are 14! Those are children in my book!

Ley Orgánica 10/1995, de 23 de noviembre, del Código Penal. TÍTULO VIII.*Delitos contra la libertad e indemnidad sexuales.
http://www.legislationline.org/down...file/e4c081a2fe81d7963b6e937113b6.htm/preview
GERMAN CRIMINAL CODE
Art. 609 C.P.

The pedophiles want the age of consent to be lower than 14, 15 though. They want it to be 7, 8 or 9.

 

[Vox]

Children cannot give consent for sexual acts therefore pedophilia is a crime. What motivates pedophiles is no different to what motivates other criminals. Will serial killers want to use the "I was born that way" defense too?

That is the law NOW, just as the law previously disallowed gay marriage. It can change, just as the gay marriage laws changed. One activist judge can do a lot!

Just as polygamy laws will be challenged using the gay marriage stare decisis as it's ammo, so will the age of consent and anti-pedophillia laws.

I am just being devil's advocate here. I think the age of consent will remain and pedophillia laws will be safe, but you never know. See leftist Western European States of Spain, France, Germany and Italy. Spain age of consent it 13! France is 15! Both Germany and Italy are 14! Those are children in my book!

Ley Orgánica 10/1995, de 23 de noviembre, del Código Penal. TÍTULO VIII.*Delitos contra la libertad e indemnidad sexuales.
http://www.legislationline.org/down...file/e4c081a2fe81d7963b6e937113b6.htm/preview
GERMAN CRIMINAL CODE
Art. 609 C.P.

The pedophiles want the age of consent to be lower than 14, 15 though. They want it to be 7, 8 or 9.

Not necessarily. Most of pedophiles actually are aiming at early teenage boys.

 

[High_Gravity]

That is the law NOW, just as the law previously disallowed gay marriage. It can change, just as the gay marriage laws changed. One activist judge can do a lot!

Just as polygamy laws will be challenged using the gay marriage stare decisis as it's ammo, so will the age of consent and anti-pedophillia laws.

I am just being devil's advocate here. I think the age of consent will remain and pedophillia laws will be safe, but you never know. See leftist Western European States of Spain, France, Germany and Italy. Spain age of consent it 13! France is 15! Both Germany and Italy are 14! Those are children in my book!

Ley Orgánica 10/1995, de 23 de noviembre, del Código Penal. TÍTULO VIII.*Delitos contra la libertad e indemnidad sexuales.
http://www.legislationline.org/down...file/e4c081a2fe81d7963b6e937113b6.htm/preview
GERMAN CRIMINAL CODE
Art. 609 C.P.

The pedophiles want the age of consent to be lower than 14, 15 though. They want it to be 7, 8 or 9.

Not necessarily. Most of pedophiles actually are aiming at early teenage boys.

I thought those sickos wanted pre pubescent kids?

 

[Granny]

"consent by definition"? WTF does that mean. Children can't consent, and if you are talking about changing the law, people will change the law to jail anyone who even talks about legalizing pedophilia.

They can't consent? They sure as hell can consent to abortions and parents be damned.

 

[Vox]

The pedophiles want the age of consent to be lower than 14, 15 though. They want it to be 7, 8 or 9.

Not necessarily. Most of pedophiles actually are aiming at early teenage boys.

I thought those sickos wanted pre pubescent kids?

no. statistics do not prove that. only 34% of pedophile victims are under age of 12.
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Sixty-seven percent of all victims of sexual assault reported to law enforcementagencies were juveniles (under the age of 18) 34% of all victims were under age 12.


homosexual predators are more prevalent in the pedophile category:
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Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the etiology of preferred partner sex among pedophiles is related to the etiology of preferred partner sex among males preferring adult partners. Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually.

 

[Vox]

there is no error - the link is working

 

[Derideo_Te]

Not necessarily. Most of pedophiles actually are aiming at early teenage boys.

I thought those sickos wanted pre pubescent kids?

no. statistics do not prove that. only 34% of pedophile victims are under age of 12.
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Sixty-seven percent of all victims of sexual assault reported to law enforcementagencies were juveniles (under the age of 18) 34% of all victims were under age 12.


homosexual predators are more prevalent in the pedophile category:
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Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the etiology of preferred partner sex among pedophiles is related to the etiology of preferred partner sex among males preferring adult partners. Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually.

HG is correct that pedophiles are attracted to pre-pubescent children.

Pedophile - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A pedophile is a person 16 years of age or older who is primarily or exclusively sexually attracted to children who have not begun puberty (girls 10 years old or less, and boys 11 year old or less, on average).[1][2][3][4][5] The prepubescent child must be at least five years younger than the person in the case of adolescent pedophiles before the attraction can be diagnosed as pedophilia.[1]

Medically, this condition is called "pedophilia" and is classified by the American Psychiatric Association as a mental disorder.[1][6] Some people with pedophilia have sex with children or use children in a sexual way. This is defined as "child sexual abuse" because children are defined to be unable to truly agree to sexual acts with an adult. Some adults have pedophile feelings but do not act by sexually abusing children. Some adults who are not pedophiles commit sexual abuse against children.

Not all pedophiles feel or act in the same way. Since the 1880s, psychologists have studied and shown that different pedophiles might act in different ways[7]:

Some pedophiles are only sexually attracted to prepubescent children. They are called exclusive pedophiles.

Some pedophiles have a sexual preference for prepubescent children but are sexually attracted to adults as well. They are called preferential pedophiles.

Some adults who prefer adult sexual partners are also sexually attracted to prepubescent children.

Adults whose primary sexual attraction is for pubescent children are properly called hebephiles, not pedophiles. Adults whose primary sexual attraction is for mid-to-late teens are properly called ephebophiles, but ephebophilia is not considered abnormal by mental health professionals.

For pedophiles who commit child sexual abuse, some studies have shown that pedophiles who are only attracted to children may abuse more children than pedophiles who also have adult sexual partners.[8][9]

The people who abuse children are often known to them -- such as parents, other relatives, and friends -- and are not strangers.[10] One research study found that half the adults convicted of child sexual abuse of children outside of their family were also sexually abusing their own children.[11]

Vox is inaccurately conflating homosexuality, sexual assault and pedophilia.

 

[laughinReaper]

Northern Colorado Gazette
newspaper


Jul 3, 2011
Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals
Claim unfair to be stigmatized for sexual orientation

by Jack Minor –

Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.

Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA.

B4U-Act calls pedophiles “minor-attracted people.” The organization’s website states its purpose is to, “help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.”

In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.”

Pedophilia has already been granted protected status by the Federal Government. The Matthew Shephard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act lists “sexual orientation” as a protected class; however, it does not define the term.

Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation;” however, the amendment was defeated by Democrats. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fl) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law. “This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these ‘philias’ and fetishes and ‘isms’ that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule.”

The White House praised the bill saying, “At root, this isn’t just about our laws; this is about who we are as a people. This is about whether we value one another – whether we embrace our differences rather than allowing them to become a source of animus.”

Earlier this year two psychologists in Canada declared that pedophilia is a sexual orientation just like homosexuality or heterosexuality.

Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament, “Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality.”

He went on to say, “True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation. He may, however, remain abstinent.”

When asked if he should be comparing pedophiles to homosexuals, Van Gijseghem replied, “If, for instance, you were living in a society where heterosexuality is proscribed or prohibited and you were told that you had to get therapy to change your sexual orientation, you would probably say that that is slightly crazy. In other words, you would not accept that at all. I use this analogy to say that, yes indeed, pedophiles do not change their sexual orientation.”

Dr. Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, agreed with Van Gijseghem. Quinsey said pedophiles’ sexual interests prefer children and, “There is no evidence that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else.”

In July, 2010 Harvard health Publications said, “Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges.”

Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves. “It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.”

Milton Diamond, a University of Hawaii professor and director of the Pacific Center for Sex and Society, stated that child pornography could be beneficial to society because, “Potential sex offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex against children.”

Diamond is a distinguished lecturer for the Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco. The IASHS openly advocated for the repeal of the Revolutionary war ban on homosexuals serving in the military.

The IASHS lists, on its website, a list of “basic sexual rights” that includes “the right to engage in sexual acts or activities of any kind whatsoever, providing they do not involve nonconsensual acts, violence, constraint, coercion or fraud.” Another right is to, “be free of persecution, condemnation, discrimination, or societal intervention in private sexual behavior” and “the freedom of any sexual thought, fantasy or desire.” The organization also says that no one should be “disadvantaged because of age.”

Sex offender laws protecting children have been challenged in several states including California, Georgia and Iowa. Sex offenders claim the laws prohibiting them from living near schools or parks are unfair because it penalizes them for life.

I can't read that whole thing cause I'll get sick, but the only right a pedo has is to get his dick removed.

 

[Vox]

I thought those sickos wanted pre pubescent kids?

no. statistics do not prove that. only 34% of pedophile victims are under age of 12.
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Sixty-seven percent of all victims of sexual assault reported to law enforcementagencies were juveniles (under the age of 18) 34% of all victims were under age 12.


homosexual predators are more prevalent in the pedophile category:
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Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the etiology of preferred partner sex among pedophiles is related to the etiology of preferred partner sex among males preferring adult partners. Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually.

Vox is inaccurately conflating homosexuality, sexual assault and pedophilia.

Derideo Te does not know how to read the study and prefers wikipedia
Pedophiles are attracted to children - and the vast majority of the children is not pre-pubescent.
any sexual contact with a minor is a sexual assault in the eyes of the law.

learn how to read the studies and statistics.

it's easy.

 

[R.C. Christian]

I'd wager in 20 years the peds will have their own leftist backed civil rights movement but then again this country won't be around another 20 years.

 

[Derideo_Te]

no. statistics do not prove that. only 34% of pedophile victims are under age of 12.
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Sixty-seven percent of all victims of sexual assault reported to law enforcementagencies were juveniles (under the age of 18) 34% of all victims were under age 12.


homosexual predators are more prevalent in the pedophile category:
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Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the etiology of preferred partner sex among pedophiles is related to the etiology of preferred partner sex among males preferring adult partners. Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually.

Vox is inaccurately conflating homosexuality, sexual assault and pedophilia.

Derideo Te does not know how to read the study and prefers wikipedia
Pedophiles are attracted to children - and the vast majority of the children is not pre-pubescent.

learn how to read the studies and statistics.

it's easy.

Your study does not change the official definition of a pedophile which is an attraction to prepubescent children.

What is Pedophilia: FAQ on Pedophiles and Pedophilia

Ray Blanchard, PhD, adjunct psychiatry professor at the University of Toronto.

What is a pedophile?

A pedophile is a person who has a sustained sexual orientation toward children, generally aged 13 or younger, Blanchard says.

Are pedophiles typically attracted to children of the opposite sex, same sex, or is there no particular pattern?

Most pedophiles have a definite preference for one sex or the other. But it's tough to estimate the percentage of pedophiles who are heterosexual, bisexual, and homosexual in their attraction to children, Blanchard says.

 

[Michelle420]

Consent.

Consent.

Consent.

Children and animals cannot consent to sex.

Idiots, shut up.

They can't consent only by definition. If we change the definition of consent like we changed the definition of marriage.... voila. The are now EMPOWERED to consent.

They would have to also change the child labor laws, age of voting, drinking ages, driving ages etc.

Adult homosexuals have the same rights and laws as heterosexual adults, except for marriage.

I don't see them legalizing a 6 year old voting or running for congress or driving or getting married or having sex.

 

[JakeStarkey]

no. statistics do not prove that. only 34% of pedophile victims are under age of 12.
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Sixty-seven percent of all victims of sexual assault reported to law enforcementagencies were juveniles (under the age of 18) 34% of all victims were under age 12.


homosexual predators are more prevalent in the pedophile category:
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Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the etiology of preferred partner sex among pedophiles is related to the etiology of preferred partner sex among males preferring adult partners. Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually.

Vox is inaccurately conflating homosexuality, sexual assault and pedophilia.

Derideo Te does not know how to read the study and prefers wikipedia
Pedophiles are attracted to children - and the vast majority of the children is not pre-pubescent.
any sexual contact with a minor is a sexual assault in the eyes of the law.

learn how to read the studies and statistics.

it's easy.

Vox is like the other lady reactionary here who was conflating all these things.

Pedophiliac acts are committed in the overwhelming majority by heterosexuals.

Pedophilia is limited to pre-pubescent ages: Vox does not set the definitions.

She is a reactionary, pure and simple. She is what she is: wrong.

 

[Vox]

Vox is inaccurately conflating homosexuality, sexual assault and pedophilia.

Derideo Te does not know how to read the study and prefers wikipedia
Pedophiles are attracted to children - and the vast majority of the children is not pre-pubescent.

learn how to read the studies and statistics.

it's easy.

Your study does not change the official definition of a pedophile which is an attraction to prepubescent children.

it does not matter. any contact with a minor even if he/she is 12-13 is going to be tried as a pedophile case and by definition of medicine/psychiatry it is the same deviation - and that is what matters in the study and in the setting of legal parameters.
Most pedophiles are attracted to early teenage boys, no matter how you want to spin it.