Repubs should cave on the debt limit so the focus will be on the Obamacare mess

[ShootSpeeders]

Obozocare website is not working worth a crap and obozo is gonna blame it on the shutdown. It's a lie but the media will back him. Raising the debt limit for a few months will remove that excuse for the obozocare signup fiasco.

That will force obozo to beg congress to repeal the ACA and then the repubs can demand a reduction in federal spending and a weakened obozo will have to grant him. He may even resign.

 

[Nyvin]

Obozocare website is not working worth a crap and obozo is gonna blame it on the shutdown. It's a lie but the media will back him. Raising the debt limit for a few months will remove that excuse for the obozocare signup fiasco.

That will force obozo to beg congress to repeal the ACA and then the repubs can demand a reduction in federal spending and a weakened obozo will have to grant him. He may even resign.

They're afraid to. They're afraid it will work and people will love it...and here they have been opposing vehemently for years, can you imagine the backlash for that?

Just put aside the "ACA is doomed" for a moment and think of the huge backlash the GOP would get if...just pretend...ACA works. It's not a risk they're yet willing to take.

 

[JakeStarkey]

SS, that is what reasonable GOP have been saying.

If it works, so be it, we are in the shit.

Since we can't stop it, let it run, and if it works we are in the shit, and if it doesn't, we reasonable GOP throw both you and the left in the shit and clean up, huh.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

[They're afraid to. They're afraid it will work and people will love it...and here they have been opposing vehemently for years, can you imagine the backlash for that?

Just put aside the "ACA is doomed" for a moment and think of the huge backlash the GOP would get if...just pretend...ACA works. It's not a risk they're yet willing to take.

It doesn't work.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

SS, that is what reasonable GOP have been saying.

If it works, so be it, we are in the shit.

Since we can't stop it, let it run, and if it works we are in the shit, and if it doesn't, we reasonable GOP throw both you and the left in the shit and clean up, huh.

Of course we can stop it. Congress could repeal ACA overnight. It needs to be done soon.

 

[Hoffstra]

only in an upside-down Universe, void of logic & rational thinking, is raising the debt ceiling "caving".

 

[Hoffstra]

Of course we can stop it. Congress could repeal ACA overnight. It needs to be done soon.

they tried 50 times.

couldn't do it.

and now that the GOP has a lower poll rating than Obama, they will NEVER get the votes to repeal ObamaCare.

oh well.

 

[blackhawk]

If you want a idea of what Obamacare could cost you if buy your own insurance you should go the Manhattan Institute website and click on their state rates map it shows what you were paying pre Obamacare and what you will be paying now that Obamacare has kicked they only have the full data for about 12 states so far but on some of them there is some major sticker shock there.
Manhattan Institute for Policy Research

 

[ShootSpeeders]

If you want a idea of what Obamacare could cost you if buy your own insurance you should go the Manhattan Institute website and click on their state rates map it shows what you were paying pre Obamacare and what you will be paying now that Obamacare has kicked they only have the full data for about 12 states so far but on some of them there is some major sticker shock there.
Manhattan Institute for Policy Research

I went to the obozocare website a couple weeks back and it appears a plan comparable to the one i have now ($300 a month) will be $500 under ACA. As for subsidies, i don't know. I tried to check on that but it's a nightmare.