Republicans, what do you think of Trump's statement on health care?

[peach174]

Obamacare isn't collapsing.

Then why are the Dems asking for more of the peoples money (tax dollars) to keep it going?
It's also band aid in order to keep it going.
As long as you don't have the healthy paying into it, it will collapse unless more money is added.
It's that way with all of their programs and why we are trillions in the hole.

 

[pismoe]

I'm still trying to get my head around hearing a President of the United States clearly stating that he wants our health care system to fail. And then doubling down, saying, "I'm not gonna own it".

Is what he said okay with you? And if so, how many Americans would you be comfortable with seeing lose their coverage and suffer, before the GOP supposedly swoops in to save the day, after the party has completely failed to do so, so far?

"Own" what, precisely? What do you think about all this?
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------------------------------------------------------------------- from what i have heard TRUMP say his words are ok with me Mac .

 

[007]

I'm still trying to get my head around hearing a President of the United States clearly stating that he wants our health care system to fail. And then doubling down, saying, "I'm not gonna own it".

Is what he said okay with you? And if so, how many Americans would you be comfortable with seeing lose their coverage and suffer, before the GOP supposedly swoops in to save the day, after the party has completely failed to do so, so far?

"Own" what, precisely? What do you think about all this?
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Sometimes the system has to break down before people are willing to fix it. Health Care, will not "collapse", as it is too fractured of a system to fail on a single point. What may happen is more insurance companies back out of exchanges, and premiums continue to increase due to all the mandated un-needed levels of coverage.

Yeah, my guess is that we wouldn't see a total collapse, but man oh man, the optics of what he said.

But I don't think the GOP can get away with the notion that the Dems own this. They have all the power and could have done something. People just are not going to buy that line, no matter how many times it's repeated.
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Not a single republican voted for obamacare, so yes, the dems own it.

If you bought a car that the salesman told you was a real gem but turned out to be a lemon, even after I told you it's not a good care, it's not my fault you're stuck with a shitty car just because I could fix it. Same with obamacare. The dems wrote the law, they crammed it down the Americans even though the majority were against it, and whatever happens because of that is all on the dems.

But my opinion of the republicans isn't much better. The vast majority of these rat pricks were waltzing around in 2015 crowing about, "WE NEED A FULL REPEAL," and now that they have a chance to do just that, THEY DON'T. I hate a liar, and these sons a bitches are liars. I think big insurance money is in Washington right now, and buying politicians like apples off a cart, and have all crippled doing anything decent for the American people. I hate these people with a passion, the lobbyists and any politician corrupt enough to line his pockets with their money to buy his/her vote. These people are disgusting beyond words.

The GOP could go full free market health care today if they wanted to.

They could push it through, just like the Dems did with the ACA, and off we go.

So either they own it, or they don't care enough about it to do something about it.
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They "own" only their own inability to get anything done.

The do not, and never will, own the obamacare disaster, period.

You can thank OBAMA and the DEMS for that, NOT President Trump.

 

[007]

Obamacare isn't collapsing.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAA....!!!!!

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm still trying to get my head around hearing a President of the United States clearly stating that he wants our health care system to fail. And then doubling down, saying, "I'm not gonna own it".

Is what he said okay with you? And if so, how many Americans would you be comfortable with seeing lose their coverage and suffer, before the GOP supposedly swoops in to save the day, after the party has completely failed to do so, so far?

"Own" what, precisely? What do you think about all this?
.

Sometimes the system has to break down before people are willing to fix it. Health Care, will not "collapse", as it is too fractured of a system to fail on a single point. What may happen is more insurance companies back out of exchanges, and premiums continue to increase due to all the mandated un-needed levels of coverage.

Yeah, my guess is that we wouldn't see a total collapse, but man oh man, the optics of what he said.

But I don't think the GOP can get away with the notion that the Dems own this. They have all the power and could have done something. People just are not going to buy that line, no matter how many times it's repeated.
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Not a single republican voted for obamacare, so yes, the dems own it.

If you bought a car that the salesman told you was a real gem but turned out to be a lemon, even after I told you it's not a good car, it's not my fault you're stuck with a shitty car just because I could fix it. Same with obamacare. The dems wrote the law, they crammed it down the Americans throat even though the majority were against it, and whatever happens because of that is all on the dems.

But my opinion of the republicans isn't much better. The vast majority of these rat pricks were waltzing around in 2015 crowing about, "WE NEED A FULL REPEAL," and now that they have a chance to do just that, THEY DON'T. I hate a liar, and these sons a bitches are liars. I think big insurance money is in Washington right now, and buying politicians like apples off a cart, and have all but crippled the chance of doing anything decent for the American people. I hate these people with a passion, the lobbyists and any politician corrupt enough to line his pockets with their money to buy his/her vote. These people are disgusting beyond words.

So the Democrats own the now net favorable Obamacare,

and the Republicans own the 15% approved, now failed, Trumpcare, which presumably they'll try to run on resurrecting in 2018,

and you think that's GOOD for the GOP?

lol

 

[007]

I'm still trying to get my head around hearing a President of the United States clearly stating that he wants our health care system to fail. And then doubling down, saying, "I'm not gonna own it".

Is what he said okay with you? And if so, how many Americans would you be comfortable with seeing lose their coverage and suffer, before the GOP supposedly swoops in to save the day, after the party has completely failed to do so, so far?

"Own" what, precisely? What do you think about all this?
.

Sometimes the system has to break down before people are willing to fix it. Health Care, will not "collapse", as it is too fractured of a system to fail on a single point. What may happen is more insurance companies back out of exchanges, and premiums continue to increase due to all the mandated un-needed levels of coverage.

Yeah, my guess is that we wouldn't see a total collapse, but man oh man, the optics of what he said.

But I don't think the GOP can get away with the notion that the Dems own this. They have all the power and could have done something. People just are not going to buy that line, no matter how many times it's repeated.
.

Not a single republican voted for obamacare, so yes, the dems own it.

If you bought a car that the salesman told you was a real gem but turned out to be a lemon, even after I told you it's not a good car, it's not my fault you're stuck with a shitty car just because I could fix it. Same with obamacare. The dems wrote the law, they crammed it down the Americans throat even though the majority were against it, and whatever happens because of that is all on the dems.

But my opinion of the republicans isn't much better. The vast majority of these rat pricks were waltzing around in 2015 crowing about, "WE NEED A FULL REPEAL," and now that they have a chance to do just that, THEY DON'T. I hate a liar, and these sons a bitches are liars. I think big insurance money is in Washington right now, and buying politicians like apples off a cart, and have all but crippled the chance of doing anything decent for the American people. I hate these people with a passion, the lobbyists and any politician corrupt enough to line his pockets with their money to buy his/her vote. These people are disgusting beyond words.

So the Democrats own the now net favorable Obamacare,

and the Republicans own the 15% approved, now failed, Trumpcare, which presumably they'll try to run on resurrecting in 2018,

and you think that's GOOD for the GOP?

lol

Ya know... I wasn't really positive if you people were nut cases before, but it's becoming painfully obvious now that you are.

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[NYcarbineer]

Obamacare isn't collapsing.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAA....!!!!!

You believe the Big Lie.

 

[peach174]

I'm still trying to get my head around hearing a President of the United States clearly stating that he wants our health care system to fail. And then doubling down, saying, "I'm not gonna own it".

Is what he said okay with you? And if so, how many Americans would you be comfortable with seeing lose their coverage and suffer, before the GOP supposedly swoops in to save the day, after the party has completely failed to do so, so far?

"Own" what, precisely? What do you think about all this?
.

Sometimes the system has to break down before people are willing to fix it. Health Care, will not "collapse", as it is too fractured of a system to fail on a single point. What may happen is more insurance companies back out of exchanges, and premiums continue to increase due to all the mandated un-needed levels of coverage.

Yeah, my guess is that we wouldn't see a total collapse, but man oh man, the optics of what he said.

But I don't think the GOP can get away with the notion that the Dems own this. They have all the power and could have done something. People just are not going to buy that line, no matter how many times it's repeated.
.

Not a single republican voted for obamacare, so yes, the dems own it.

If you bought a car that the salesman told you was a real gem but turned out to be a lemon, even after I told you it's not a good car, it's not my fault you're stuck with a shitty car just because I could fix it. Same with obamacare. The dems wrote the law, they crammed it down the Americans throat even though the majority were against it, and whatever happens because of that is all on the dems.

But my opinion of the republicans isn't much better. The vast majority of these rat pricks were waltzing around in 2015 crowing about, "WE NEED A FULL REPEAL," and now that they have a chance to do just that, THEY DON'T. I hate a liar, and these sons a bitches are liars. I think big insurance money is in Washington right now, and buying politicians like apples off a cart, and have all but crippled the chance of doing anything decent for the American people. I hate these people with a passion, the lobbyists and any politician corrupt enough to line his pockets with their money to buy his/her vote. These people are disgusting beyond words.

So the Democrats own the now net favorable Obamacare,

and the Republicans own the 15% approved, now failed, Trumpcare, which presumably they'll try to run on resurrecting in 2018,

and you think that's GOOD for the GOP?

lol

We don't care about what's good for either party.
The people are fed up with both.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm still trying to get my head around hearing a President of the United States clearly stating that he wants our health care system to fail. And then doubling down, saying, "I'm not gonna own it".

Is what he said okay with you? And if so, how many Americans would you be comfortable with seeing lose their coverage and suffer, before the GOP supposedly swoops in to save the day, after the party has completely failed to do so, so far?

"Own" what, precisely? What do you think about all this?
.

Sometimes the system has to break down before people are willing to fix it. Health Care, will not "collapse", as it is too fractured of a system to fail on a single point. What may happen is more insurance companies back out of exchanges, and premiums continue to increase due to all the mandated un-needed levels of coverage.

Yeah, my guess is that we wouldn't see a total collapse, but man oh man, the optics of what he said.

But I don't think the GOP can get away with the notion that the Dems own this. They have all the power and could have done something. People just are not going to buy that line, no matter how many times it's repeated.
.

Not a single republican voted for obamacare, so yes, the dems own it.

If you bought a car that the salesman told you was a real gem but turned out to be a lemon, even after I told you it's not a good car, it's not my fault you're stuck with a shitty car just because I could fix it. Same with obamacare. The dems wrote the law, they crammed it down the Americans throat even though the majority were against it, and whatever happens because of that is all on the dems.

But my opinion of the republicans isn't much better. The vast majority of these rat pricks were waltzing around in 2015 crowing about, "WE NEED A FULL REPEAL," and now that they have a chance to do just that, THEY DON'T. I hate a liar, and these sons a bitches are liars. I think big insurance money is in Washington right now, and buying politicians like apples off a cart, and have all but crippled the chance of doing anything decent for the American people. I hate these people with a passion, the lobbyists and any politician corrupt enough to line his pockets with their money to buy his/her vote. These people are disgusting beyond words.

So the Democrats own the now net favorable Obamacare,

and the Republicans own the 15% approved, now failed, Trumpcare, which presumably they'll try to run on resurrecting in 2018,

and you think that's GOOD for the GOP?

lol

We don't care about what's good for either party.
The people are fed up with both.

Gee, that's quite a few decibels down from all the whoopin' and cheerin' and hollerin' that was being done by the Trumptards around here last November.

 

[007]

Obamacare isn't collapsing.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAA....!!!!!

You believe the Big Lie.

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[NYcarbineer]

I'm still trying to get my head around hearing a President of the United States clearly stating that he wants our health care system to fail. And then doubling down, saying, "I'm not gonna own it".

Is what he said okay with you? And if so, how many Americans would you be comfortable with seeing lose their coverage and suffer, before the GOP supposedly swoops in to save the day, after the party has completely failed to do so, so far?

"Own" what, precisely? What do you think about all this?
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No he wants AHCA to fail not the health care system.
It was designed so poorly that we said it would fail before it passed.
Get off the blame game.

The AHCA is the GOP plan.

 

[Mac1958]

We don't care about what's good for either party. The people are fed up with both.

The problem you face, and it's playing out in real time, is that you need a party to be a conduit for your ideas. Like it or not, the system is in place, and you won't be able to change it enough in the short term.

You've chosen the GOP, and that's fine, but you can't leverage it and tell it to go to hell at the same time. The system, as it is, won't allow it.
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[peach174]

Sometimes the system has to break down before people are willing to fix it. Health Care, will not "collapse", as it is too fractured of a system to fail on a single point. What may happen is more insurance companies back out of exchanges, and premiums continue to increase due to all the mandated un-needed levels of coverage.

Yeah, my guess is that we wouldn't see a total collapse, but man oh man, the optics of what he said.

But I don't think the GOP can get away with the notion that the Dems own this. They have all the power and could have done something. People just are not going to buy that line, no matter how many times it's repeated.
.

Not a single republican voted for obamacare, so yes, the dems own it.

If you bought a car that the salesman told you was a real gem but turned out to be a lemon, even after I told you it's not a good car, it's not my fault you're stuck with a shitty car just because I could fix it. Same with obamacare. The dems wrote the law, they crammed it down the Americans throat even though the majority were against it, and whatever happens because of that is all on the dems.

But my opinion of the republicans isn't much better. The vast majority of these rat pricks were waltzing around in 2015 crowing about, "WE NEED A FULL REPEAL," and now that they have a chance to do just that, THEY DON'T. I hate a liar, and these sons a bitches are liars. I think big insurance money is in Washington right now, and buying politicians like apples off a cart, and have all but crippled the chance of doing anything decent for the American people. I hate these people with a passion, the lobbyists and any politician corrupt enough to line his pockets with their money to buy his/her vote. These people are disgusting beyond words.

So the Democrats own the now net favorable Obamacare,

and the Republicans own the 15% approved, now failed, Trumpcare, which presumably they'll try to run on resurrecting in 2018,

and you think that's GOOD for the GOP?

lol

We don't care about what's good for either party.
The people are fed up with both.

Gee, that's quite a few decibels down from all the whoopin' and cheerin' and hollerin' that was being done by the Trumptards around here last November.

Trump is doing fine.
Why do you lump him with congresses actions?

 

[peach174]

We don't care about what's good for either party. The people are fed up with both.

The problem you face, and it's playing out in real time, is that you need a party to be a conduit for your ideas. Like it or not, the system is in place, and you won't be able to change it enough in the short term.

You've chosen the GOP, and that's fine, but you can't leverage it and tell it to go to hell at the same time. The system, as it is, won't allow it.
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Who said anything even close to that?

 

[Weatherman2020]

I'm still trying to get my head around hearing a President of the United States clearly stating that he wants our health care system to fail. And then doubling down, saying, "I'm not gonna own it".

Is what he said okay with you? And if so, how many Americans would you be comfortable with seeing lose their coverage and suffer, before the GOP supposedly swoops in to save the day, after the party has completely failed to do so, so far?

"Own" what, precisely? What do you think about all this?
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Bargaining position. Dems won't help solve it so he has made it clear the monkey is on their backs for creating the mess. Trump simply said he is not their maid.

 

[peach174]

I'm still trying to get my head around hearing a President of the United States clearly stating that he wants our health care system to fail. And then doubling down, saying, "I'm not gonna own it".

Is what he said okay with you? And if so, how many Americans would you be comfortable with seeing lose their coverage and suffer, before the GOP supposedly swoops in to save the day, after the party has completely failed to do so, so far?

"Own" what, precisely? What do you think about all this?
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No he wants AHCA to fail not the health care system.
It was designed so poorly that we said it would fail before it passed.
Get off the blame game.

The AHCA is the GOP plan.

If it was they would have voted for it.

 

[Mac1958]

We don't care about what's good for either party. The people are fed up with both.

The problem you face, and it's playing out in real time, is that you need a party to be a conduit for your ideas. Like it or not, the system is in place, and you won't be able to change it enough in the short term.

You've chosen the GOP, and that's fine, but you can't leverage it and tell it to go to hell at the same time. The system, as it is, won't allow it.
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Who said anything even close to that?

Huh? The party has been in-fighting for years. RINO. Drain the swamp. You just said you don't care what's good for it, and that you're fed up with it.

Come on.
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[easyt65]

I'm still trying to get my head around hearing a President of the United States clearly stating that he wants our health care system to fail.

1. So you are agreeing that the ACA will fail?

2. If you are riding on a train, not the conductor or the engineer, and you are about to hit another on-coming train, about the only thing you can do is say 'Oh shite' and brace for impact. As the ACA is 'law of the land' and the Executive Branch does not write / pass legislation, IMO Trump's comment, made out of frustration, was the equivalence of saying 'oh shite' and bracing for impact. I also believe that he is pissed with Establishment GOP and has mentally washed his hands of them, allowing them to meet their own fates in 2018.

 

[bendog]

I doubt Trump's support will drop much past the 40% it's at now if he acts to kill Obamacare subsidies. I don't think I'd like to be a gop legislator running in 18 though

 

[Mac1958]

I'm still trying to get my head around hearing a President of the United States clearly stating that he wants our health care system to fail.

1. So you are agreeing that the ACA will fail?

2. If you are riding on a train, not the conductor or the engineer, and you are about to hit another on-coming train, about the only thing you can do is say 'Oh shite' and brace for impact. As the ACA is 'law of the land' and the Executive Branch does not write / pass legislation, IMO Trump's comment, made out of frustration, was the equivalence of saying 'oh shite' and bracing for impact. I also believe that he is pissed with Establishment GOP and has mentally washed his hands of them, allowing them to meet their own fates in 2018.

I don't know if that pig of a law is going to fail, but the GOP had a chance to do something about it, and it chose not to. The biggest problem I have with his comment is the "I'm not gonna own it", which is pure politics. Regardless of who is (most) to blame here, playing politics with people's health is unacceptable.
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