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I live in a rural area with a volunteer fire department, and no local police force. We have one outdoor swimming pool which is only open from June 15th to September 1st. No indoor pools at all. There is no public transit of any description either in town, or to nearby communities. No one is offering subsidized day care. And yet property taxes out here are the same as they are in Toronto, if not higher.
In Toronto, I had 4 indoor swimming pools/recreation centres within walking distance of my house, and one outdoor olympic size swimming and diving facility. That facility hosted the Pan-Am games swimming meet in 2015. We had 24/7 public transit, subsidized day care spaces for low income families, and a host of free community based recreation programs and services. The local precinct cop shop for Toronto police, was within walking distance of my house, and the fire hall was less than a 5 minute drive away, and it was a full time fire department, not a volunteer department which won't get there before your place burns to the ground.
I thought the fact that we pay the same property ridiculous considering the shortfall of services out here until I realized:
1. Residential property taxes in the City were heavily subsidized by municipal business taxes, paid by corporations and retailers. And by the high taxes payable for condominiums and skyscrapers. Property taxes on a 2 bedroom condo were $2500 per year, when taxes on our house were under $1000 per year. It made no sense to me then and it still doesn't.
2. We have fewer people. We have 45,000 people living in our county, compared to nearly 3 million people in Toronto. But we are twice the size of Toronto. 1250 square kilometers here, 630 square kilometers in Toronto. There are far fewer households in the tax base so we have to pay more, per household, for these services.
3. Much of the land in our county is farm land, and property taxes on farm land are almost zero. The farmer will pay property taxes on his house and outbuildings, but the land is taxed at a very low rate, so even though we have twice the land mass of Toronto, there is NO farm land in that City and every single inch of the city that isn't owned by some level of government or a church, is taxed to the hilt.
So you are ok with paying high property taxes with fewer services because you have fewer people? I pay much lower property taxes as compared with blue states with an abundance of necessary services. I don't need nor would I want to pay for public pools and the like. Public transportation is largely unnecessary(with no major public support) in my area and if you want a pool you can use a neighborhood pool or a private one.