Ray From Cleveland
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I don’t automatically endorse every policy pushed just because I am socialist. Obviously there have been examples of bad policy. The scope of your examples are pretty limited anyway. None of those are federal.Okay but the government doesn’t make every decision for you. That’s just the usual lame nanny state talking point that lacks any validity. It’s one of those beliefs that simply sounds real but actually isn’t.I support the government providing the large majority of those things. Not even sure what you mean by phones or gender but whatever.Billy, our founders never wanted anything like this. They wanted free people, not kept people by their federal government. It's the reason they left and found this land in the first place.
Thanks to progressivism (if you wish to call it that) we went from a free people, to a cradle-to-grave government. Government provides housing (in suburbs for many cities) provides food, provides medical care, provides phones, provides daycare centers, provides utilizes, tells us what to eat, what we can and cannot smoke, what kind of cars we should be driving, provides retirement funds, what our children are allowed to eat in school, and even a choice of gender you wish to be.
Does that sound like we are free people to you? And to add insult to injury, it's not enough. Now government wants to provide you with national healthcare coverage and college as well. What's left for you to decide? What color of carpet you have in your home?
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution that grans Congress the right, of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
James Madison, annals of Congress 1794
Let me put this way: obviously there is such a thing as too much government. However, there is also such a thing as too little. That balance is important.
So when government makes every personal decision in your life for you, that's not too much government?
I for one think we have way too much government controlling our lives. What happened to the good ole days when if you wanted something, you simply bought it? You want stocks, you buy them. You want real estate investments, you buy property. You want to make more money than others, you invest in education or a business of your own. You need healthcare coverage, you only took jobs that provided it. You want a better paying blue collar job, you paid for trade school
Now, with everything government provides, that's not good enough. Now it metastasized into free college? You call that the middle?
Also, the jobs that provide good health insurance are very competitive. The result is millions having no choice but to accept shitty jobs.
Correct. The government doesn't make every decision for you......yet. But leave it to you leftists, they will. When the Democrats have power, they are able to make more and more of your decisions for you.
I want a 20oz Pepsi. Government says you can only have a 12oz Pepsi. I want a 15 round magazine in my gun. Government says you can only have a 5 round magazine for your gun. I want my school to serve pizza for lunch. Government says you can't have pizza for lunch, you can have mixed peas instead or starve. I want to drive my car with no seatbelt. Government says you cannot drive your car without a seatbelt. I want to go to a bar, and have a beer and a cigarette. Government says you can't have a cigarette with your beer.
For crying out loud, even the former USSR didn't do this to their people. 30 years ago you couldn't compare the government restrictions of places like Cuba to the USA. Thanks to liberalism, you can today.
Moochelles school lunch program was not federal? Seat belt laws are not federal? Well, in a sense they are, but it was the federal government who threatened to withhold state aid unless they complied. Liz Warren stated that her first day as President, she would ban fracking. That would not be federal? Back to topic, free college would not be federal?