Republicans have systematically dismantling the middle class.

[editec]

Republicans have systematically dismantling the middle class.

Yes, that is true, and the REpubli9cans been doing it along with their team-mates in CLASS WARFARE the DEMOCRATS.

BOTH PARTIES kept passing laws making it necessary for industry to move off shore (which is what FREE TRADE HAS DONE) and expect the working classes NOT to suffer.

Trying to pin THIS PROBLEM on just one party is a good example of how blinding partisanship really is.

 

[MNFreeThinker]

Why is it that Americans now think that everyone should be out for themselves. This hooray for me and screw you mentality that a lot of people have is what is doing this nation in. Not the "socialist agenda."
Why is it that before conservatives hijacked the Republican party Republicans had crazy ideas like strengthening social security and expanding collective bargaining rights for workers. They also used to believe that good paying union jobs for Americans was good for America. Eisenhower would be torn apart and labeled a liberal if he was running for president today. I guess there is just no more room for common sense or helping your fellow American in the Republican party.
I am also amazed by the absolute hatred and racism that a lot of people show for Obama. They say he is the worst president ever, but still support the ineptitude of baby Bush. Punch a hole in that logic!! I will agree with the crazies and say that I don't like the job Obama is doing, but for a different reason. That reason is that Obama's been too conservative. He gives the rich and their puppets everything they want. More debt raising tax cuts, more debt raising wars, more debt raising oil subsidies, the list goes on.
As far as the union bashing goes, take away 40 hour work weeks, health insurance, a retirement, overtime pay, decent wages, and breaks and look at what you have left....nothing. Those are all things that union members have fought and died for to give to all of us. Unions have not forced companies to outsource jobs. Greedy shareholders, failed economic policies like free trade, and immoral business practices have done that. Next time you want to make average Americans out to be money hungry thieves that are ruing our economy, go look at wall street.

"If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them (around the banks),
will deprive the people of their property
until their children will wake up homeless
on the continent their fathers conquered."

by: Thomas Jefferson

 

[flacaltenn]

Ya know -- it occurs to me that what these "moderate Americans" are missing is that SOMEBODY has to take BIG risks to make "the pie" in the first place.

What if I built a pie factory and nobody buys them? What if my competitor gets shelf space in the grocery and I don't? Do I really want to RISK $10M on a pie company so "moderate Americans" can enjoy them?

All "moderate Americans" have to do is wheel their cart down the freakin' aisle and CHOOSE a pie. Not much risk to that. We've spoiled the heck out of Americans by propagating this myth that life shouldn't HAVE risks, there is no reason to TAKE risks, and people who get rich risked NOTHING to get there...

well said, when Thomas Sowell was asked what the difference was between proggies and cons he said that cons recognize there is just is much you can do and so far you can go, proggies never ever recognize that, you can slap them in the face with proof tills your arms are tired, matters not, life at the end of the day shows up and you cannot rescue everyone from everything and there own innate failings......yet.

take medicare...The feds lead actuary in 65 projected Part A would level up to perhaps to only $9 billion by 1990. Part A in 1990 cost.............. $67 billion. You read that right projected 9, real, 67.....

further-

-yet here we are, being told by the likes of obama pelosi Sibelius that hey, obama care? rev. neutral baby, we'll shake out ineffective prgms and inefficiencies, computerize, a watered down mandate IF its allowed to be enacted, even after their schemes have been exposed for what they are, the double counting, gratuitous timeline for enacting the prgm. the timelines shimmied to keep it in the black after years of forward taxes, the waivers....yet, ask them.....all will be well....they live in their own world.

And Soc Sec will never exceed 4% of payroll... For such biz challenged creatures, they sure know how to sell -- don't they? (used car style anyway)

 

[flacaltenn]

I love reading these posts by "oh so successful" right wingers. You know most of them sleep in mom's living room in a bag on the floor of the trailer.

Are you judging RDean??? Poking fun at folks who live in trailers? How cynical for a superhero of the poor and downtrodden..

 

[flacaltenn]

Republicans have systematically dismantling the middle class.

Yes, that is true, and the REpubli9cans been doing it along with their team-mates in CLASS WARFARE the DEMOCRATS.

BOTH PARTIES kept passing laws making it necessary for industry to move off shore (which is what FREE TRADE HAS DONE) and expect the working classes NOT to suffer.

Trying to pin THIS PROBLEM on just one party is a good example of how blinding partisanship really is.

OK -- I MIGHT buy that. But when have the Dems EVER VOLUNTARILY put the brakes on budgets and spending and govt growth? Been business friendly? Kennedy doesn't count -- he'd be appalled at what the Definition of Dem is today. And Clinton put on a good act but decided his legacy was important than going to war with a Repub congress just to make some points.

 

[thereisnospoon]

And on the same note of leftist lunacy . . . we have the unionized employees in the state of California (a.k.a., La-La Land) eating the middleclass taxpayers up like gum drops. From American Thinker again with nothin' but love to Toro.

___________________________

A State of Total Insanity
by Gary Jason
09/2/2011
American Thinker

Two recent stories out of California show that what is already the most stupidly governed state is slipping into outright insanity.

The first is a new illustration of the crazy compensation levels of all too many state employees. It turns out that the chief psychologist for the state's prison system earned $838,706 -- last year alone! To be precise, the shrink earned somewhere between $261,408 and $308,640 in salary, with the remainder coming from bonuses or cashing in unused sick leave.

[...]

I am very pro-union but there is something seriously wrong with that example and it should be addressed as the exception it is rather than regarding it as typical.

Wanna see some out of the park compensation for public workers?
Here.....www.nj.com.........Go to new jersey by the numbers. There you can look up any public employees' salary and if retired, their monthly compensation. Keep in mind, the numbers seen DO NOT include pension and health insurance costs.
Just a taste. IN the school district where I attended, the High school faculty and staff have about 500 employees. nearly HALF are paid in excess of $100,000 per year. 75% earn over $80k per year.
In the Borough of Fort Lee, NJ, town of about 15,000 people there are roughly 350 municipal employees. ONE THIRD of these workers are paid SIX FIGURES.
In the states where most or all government employees are unionized and/or have civil service protections, are paid in excess of 30 -50% more than private sector workers doing similar jobs. Of course that does not include police fire and teachers.
Just to give a little insight. A teacher I had in 8th grade retired in 1994, She worked 25 years. She retired at base pay of little over $60k....Today a teacher with the same amount of experience in the same district would be pulling over $125k per year.....Now has inflation gone up 100% in 17 years? I don't think so. The power of public sector unions to negotiate( HA HA HA , It's more like extort) wages is incredible.
The home I grew up in was sold by my parents in 1983. Their yearly property tax was about $1500. Now that same home pays over $15,000 per year!!! Most of that money goes to paying municipal worker wages. It's gotten so bad, that my hometown has had to close the town library. There just isn't any more money. Towns can no longer simply raise property taxes with impunity. That thanks to a new state law capping property tax levies.

 

[thereisnospoon]

And the Booosh depression never happened- and the STUPIDEST wars ever- direct legacy of Raygun- JFC- IDIOCY>

Same nonsense out of you on every post.
You have nothing to add. You are an empty vessel.

 

[thereisnospoon]

ok ....just what is it you want? And don't say "equality" or some other one word or one sentence response.
Give a list of items you think should be forthcoming.
I caution you, if you decide to list a bunch of new government programs be prepared to answer as to how these things will be funded. Soaking the rich is not an answer. As with any new government program, everyone's taxes will be increased.
Think about your response and carefully consider your list of demands.

raising taxes by 4% on a group who tripled their wealth while everyone else suffered is "soaking the rich" just for brainwashed functional morons...austerity has stalled the recovery- the problem is jobs, not debt...what was the debt after wwii? This is another time for big ideas, not paralysis and fear mongering from the a-holes who got us here. Pubs better change or will pay the price in 2012. Everyone but total dittoheads are getting the picture.

yes!!!

"Yes" WHAT?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Why is it that Americans now think that everyone should be out for themselves. This hooray for me and screw you mentality that a lot of people have is what is doing this nation in. Not the "socialist agenda."
Why is it that before conservatives hijacked the Republican party Republicans had crazy ideas like strengthening social security and expanding collective bargaining rights for workers. They also used to believe that good paying union jobs for Americans was good for America. Eisenhower would be torn apart and labeled a liberal if he was running for president today. I guess there is just no more room for common sense or helping your fellow American in the Republican party.
I am also amazed by the absolute hatred and racism that a lot of people show for Obama. They say he is the worst president ever, but still support the ineptitude of baby Bush. Punch a hole in that logic!! I will agree with the crazies and say that I don't like the job Obama is doing, but for a different reason. That reason is that Obama's been too conservative. He gives the rich and their puppets everything they want. More debt raising tax cuts, more debt raising wars, more debt raising oil subsidies, the list goes on.
As far as the union bashing goes, take away 40 hour work weeks, health insurance, a retirement, overtime pay, decent wages, and breaks and look at what you have left....nothing. Those are all things that union members have fought and died for to give to all of us. Unions have not forced companies to outsource jobs. Greedy shareholders, failed economic policies like free trade, and immoral business practices have done that. Next time you want to make average Americans out to be money hungry thieves that are ruing our economy, go look at wall street.

"If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them (around the banks),
will deprive the people of their property
until their children will wake up homeless
on the continent their fathers conquered."

by: Thomas Jefferson

Please spare us the pro union pablum
Your is a common refrain of the class envy crowd. Unions=Shit...Ok?....7% of the workforce in the US is union.
And it is well documented that when workers are presented with the opportunity to join a union or to unionize the workplace, they reject the union.
Unions are a business. And as such unions operate in their own self interest. Ever seen a poor union delegate?
Fact is most union workers earn well above what it considered a middle class wage.
Anyone regardless of type of work that earns over $100k per year is RICH. Anyone who can put their three kids through college without taking out loans is RICH. Anyone who can afford a vacation or weekend home in some mountain, beach or lakeside area without taking out a second mortgage is RICH.....And grew up around many people who were union who had all of these things. So don't give this shit about union workers being middle class.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why is it that Americans now think that everyone should be out for themselves. This hooray for me and screw you mentality that a lot of people have is what is doing this nation in. Not the "socialist agenda."
Why is it that before conservatives hijacked the Republican party Republicans had crazy ideas like strengthening social security and expanding collective bargaining rights for workers. They also used to believe that good paying union jobs for Americans was good for America. Eisenhower would be torn apart and labeled a liberal if he was running for president today. I guess there is just no more room for common sense or helping your fellow American in the Republican party.
I am also amazed by the absolute hatred and racism that a lot of people show for Obama. They say he is the worst president ever, but still support the ineptitude of baby Bush. Punch a hole in that logic!! I will agree with the crazies and say that I don't like the job Obama is doing, but for a different reason. That reason is that Obama's been too conservative. He gives the rich and their puppets everything they want. More debt raising tax cuts, more debt raising wars, more debt raising oil subsidies, the list goes on.
As far as the union bashing goes, take away 40 hour work weeks, health insurance, a retirement, overtime pay, decent wages, and breaks and look at what you have left....nothing. Those are all things that union members have fought and died for to give to all of us. Unions have not forced companies to outsource jobs. Greedy shareholders, failed economic policies like free trade, and immoral business practices have done that. Next time you want to make average Americans out to be money hungry thieves that are ruing our economy, go look at wall street.

"If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them (around the banks),
will deprive the people of their property
until their children will wake up homeless
on the continent their fathers conquered."

by: Thomas Jefferson

Love that fake quote!

 

[hortysir]

Republicans have been systematically dismantling the middle class in this country for over 30 years by dividing and conquering us. Now it's up to us to unite as a movement, craft our vision, and stop them in their tracks. United we stand, divided we fall

Something amazing happened this year that's given me hope. Ever since the middle class protests in Wisconsin this winter, the labor movement has come back together. I've seen the movement spread from the Capitol in Madison to nearly every corner of this country.

The Middle Class can, and will, fight back against the wealthy power elite, and their puppets in the Republican Party. But we cannot allow them to continue to divide and conquer America any longer. We must unite against Tyranny, and stop the monumental wealth re-distribution of over a trillion dollars out of the middle class and into the banks accounts of the wealthiest 1% the past 30 years. The American Middle Class deserve their piece of the American Pie back, and we will take it back if we stand united against those who steal our hard earned money.

Do not vote for any politician who represents the wealthy over the middle class, and make sure you let your representatives know they are there to represent you, not the lobbyists of the wealthy and powerful

Buy Unions are okay?

Got it.




Idiot

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

**** THE MIDDLE CLASS, THEY"RE COMMIES!!!!

 

[Lakhota]

http://republicandirtytricks.com/dude-wheres-my-middle-class/

 

[Mr_Rockhead]

Republicans have been systematically dismantling the middle class in this country for over 30 years by dividing and conquering us. Now it's up to us to unite as a movement, craft our vision, and stop them in their tracks. United we stand, divided we fall

Something amazing happened this year that's given me hope. Ever since the middle class protests in Wisconsin this winter, the labor movement has come back together. I've seen the movement spread from the Capitol in Madison to nearly every corner of this country.

The Middle Class can, and will, fight back against the wealthy power elite, and their puppets in the Republican Party. But we cannot allow them to continue to divide and conquer America any longer. We must unite against Tyranny, and stop the monumental wealth re-distribution of over a trillion dollars out of the middle class and into the banks accounts of the wealthiest 1% the past 30 years. The American Middle Class deserve their piece of the American Pie back, and we will take it back if we stand united against those who steal our hard earned money.

Do not vote for any politician who represents the wealthy over the middle class, and make sure you let your representatives know they are there to represent you, not the lobbyists of the wealthy and powerful

I would only add that the middle class is also well represented in the Tea Party (but they happen to have some different ideas about what might be causing their demise).

I used to breath a sigh of relief when “Tax Freedom Day” finally rolled around, but then I learned about “Cost of Government Day”.

The American Spectator : Happy New Tax Freedom Day

<sigh

 

[editec]

Republicans have systematically dismantling the middle class.

Yes, that is true, and the REpubli9cans been doing it along with their team-mates in CLASS WARFARE the DEMOCRATS.

BOTH PARTIES kept passing laws making it necessary for industry to move off shore (which is what FREE TRADE HAS DONE) and expect the working classes NOT to suffer.

Trying to pin THIS PROBLEM on just one party is a good example of how blinding partisanship really is.

OK -- I MIGHT buy that.

You don't have to "buy it" from me.

All you need do is look at the history of who voted for what. When it comes to TRADE issues the two parties are essentially on the same page and have been for going on at least 40 years.

But when have the Dems EVER VOLUNTARILY put the brakes on budgets and spending and govt growth?

Same as the Republicans, pretty much never for their pet projects.

Been business friendly?

Same as the Republicans -- pretty much always when it comes to THEIR PET BUSINESSES.

Kennedy doesn't count -- he'd be appalled at what the Definition of Dem is today. And Clinton put on a good act but decided his legacy was important than going to war with a Repub congress just to make some points.

Dismissing Dems that don't fit in with your pet theory is kind of silly, don't you think?

Of course from my POV, in order to belief that there is a significant difference btween the parties when it comes to things financial imeans one kind of has to ignore the long list of facts where they are on the same page.

Or in your case I suppose one can just dismiss the facts that don't fit your pet theory.

Not really good scholarship, that, though.

Facts are damned persistent things.

Ignore them at your peril.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Dude, Where's My Middle Class? | Republican Dirty Tricks

I've heard that Michael Moore won't allow his employees to unionize, why should I listen to his idiocy?

 

[hortysir]

Dude, Where's My Middle Class? | Republican Dirty Tricks

I've heard that Michael Moore won't allow his employees to unionize, why should I listen to his idiocy?

If you're going to dispute a link, you really should provide one of your own

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Dude, Where's My Middle Class? | Republican Dirty Tricks

I've heard that Michael Moore won't allow his employees to unionize, why should I listen to his idiocy?

If you're going to dispute a link, you really should provide one of your own

Good idea.

Michael Moore Snubs Union Workers in Making 'Capitalism: A Love Story' - ABC News

Michael Moore, a hypocritical union buster - Washington Times

 

[boedicca]

The fact that Obama and the Dems are targeting families making $250K as The Rich shows that they are the ones targeting the middle class.

 

[flacaltenn]

Why is it that Americans now think that everyone should be out for themselves. This hooray for me and screw you mentality that a lot of people have is what is doing this nation in. Not the "socialist agenda."
Why is it that before conservatives hijacked the Republican party Republicans had crazy ideas like strengthening social security and expanding collective bargaining rights for workers. They also used to believe that good paying union jobs for Americans was good for America. Eisenhower would be torn apart and labeled a liberal if he was running for president today. I guess there is just no more room for common sense or helping your fellow American in the Republican party.
I am also amazed by the absolute hatred and racism that a lot of people show for Obama. They say he is the worst president ever, but still support the ineptitude of baby Bush. Punch a hole in that logic!! I will agree with the crazies and say that I don't like the job Obama is doing, but for a different reason. That reason is that Obama's been too conservative. He gives the rich and their puppets everything they want. More debt raising tax cuts, more debt raising wars, more debt raising oil subsidies, the list goes on.
As far as the union bashing goes, take away 40 hour work weeks, health insurance, a retirement, overtime pay, decent wages, and breaks and look at what you have left....nothing. Those are all things that union members have fought and died for to give to all of us. Unions have not forced companies to outsource jobs. Greedy shareholders, failed economic policies like free trade, and immoral business practices have done that. Next time you want to make average Americans out to be money hungry thieves that are ruing our economy, go look at wall street.

"If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them (around the banks),
will deprive the people of their property
until their children will wake up homeless
on the continent their fathers conquered."

by: Thomas Jefferson

To bad the Jefferson quote is a complete fabrication. TodsterPatriot also sniffed that out. I had to go check because it's OBVIOUSLY not written in Jefferson's age..

Private Banks (Quotation) « Thomas Jefferson


The first part of the quotation ("If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered") has not been found anywhere in Thomas Jefferson's writings, to Albert Gallatin or otherwise. It is identified in Respectfully Quoted as spurious, and the editor further points out that the words "inflation" and "deflation" are not documented until after Jefferson's lifetime.[3]

I'm not poking at you here -- its easy to make mistakes like that.. Just wanted to point it out so the "virus" doesn't spread.. Because next thing you know -- HelloFromWarsaw will have it in his "footer"...