Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. Their failed arguments are examined here:

[Slyhunter]

You can believe that if you want and if more people like you are in charge, that will be the law in our country. Fortunately, most people don't think like you.

I believe the extreme left and right will never get all that they want, so a good compromise would be 16 weeks. I don't understand why those who want an abortion can't get it within 16 weeks. I believe Trump and most of the right wing are willing to compromise, so why aren't any of the left wing willing? The left wing claims the right are divisive, but it is the left that never want to compromise. They want all the loaf and are willing to fight for it even if it means they get nothing.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Society doesn’t have to have a religious based reason to oppose the slaughter of helpless, defenseless and utterly innocent human life.

demofks use abortion as a contraceptive.

The rights of individuals to have life?

Killing humans is illegal. If the fetus is judged to be human, and I believe they are, then abortion is murder.

Killing humans is illegal. If the fetus is judged to be human, and I believe they are, then abortion is murder.

Because it doesn't matter, it is a separate human being period!

A fetus is not a “separate“ human being. Those of you to say that are lying.

It does matter Saint Frankenstein when a fetus is incapable of living an independent separate life. Society has no interest in protecting or duty to protect that fetus’s life from it’s potential birthmother.

 

[Slyhunter]

I have an answer, that's it. People are going to have sex with each other, just as they eat, sleep, and relieve themselves in the bathroom. Sex is natural and it will continue to happen, despite all of your hangups about strangers having sex. Under capitalism, society is highly sexualized, because everything is commodified. We live in an environment that uses sex, to generate profits, to attract customers..etc. Abortion is a way to mitigate the negative consequences of this high level of promiscuity, and to do otherwise is much worse. It's more expensive, in every way imaginable.

Then why are so many rich woman choosing career over a personal life and not having sex?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Society doesn’t have to have a religious based reason to oppose the slaughter of helpless, defenseless and utterly innocent human life.

demofks use abortion as a contraceptive.

The rights of individuals to have life?

Killing humans is illegal. If the fetus is judged to be human, and I believe they are, then abortion is murder.

Killing humans is illegal. If the fetus is judged to be human, and I believe they are, then abortion is murder.

Because it doesn't matter, it is a separate human being period!

A fetus is not a “separate“ human being. Those of you who say that are lying.

It does matter Saint Frankenstein when a fetus is incapable of living an independent separate life, society has no interest in protecting or duty to protect that fetus’s life from it’s potential birthmother.

it has a duty to protect the fetus’s from harm any person aside from the pregnant woman.

You and I can’t terminate a woman’s pregnancy. Doing so and left on punished would bring harm to law and order and peace and civility in our society.

When a woman terminates her own pregnancy, none of that happens.

she does no harm.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I believe the extreme left and right will never get all that they want, so a good compromise would be 16 weeks. I don't understand why those who want an abortion can't get it within 16 weeks. I believe Trump and most of the right wing are willing to compromise, so why aren't any of the left wing willing? The left wing claims the right are divisive, but it is the left that never want to compromise. They want all the loaf and are willing to fight for it even if it means they get nothing.

Most of the true leftists that I know aren't for late-term abortions apart from saving the life of the woman. I believe 16 to 20 months is reasonable. After that, let's declare what is in the womb a HUMAN BEING. That's fine. I'm completely against willy-nilly abortions after that life in the womb is six, seven months, eight months..etc, developing in the womb. I would consider a late-term abortion that isn't performed to save the life of the mother, a crime. But early in pregnancy, let her have her abortion. What's there isn't a human being, but a potential human being, that if left to gestate further will indeed become a baby.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Then why are so many rich woman choosing career over a personal life and not having sex?

LOL! I know a lot of professional women, who aren't married, believe me, they have sex. A lot of sex. LOTS. Ever seen the tv show "Sex In The City"? That depicts career women, who make six-figure incomes and have the money to hire male escorts. They party hardy. They have their "fuck boys", toy-boys.

 

[Slyhunter]

You don't get it, that's the problem. No one has the right to deprive women of their reproductive rights. As far as retards that refuse to wear a mask in public crowded venues in the middle of a deadly pandemic. They don't have a right to become public health hazards. So if the government mandates masks under such rare circumstances, we must all comply and if we don't we should get the boot. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Where in the constitution do they get reproductive rights.
If it was up to liberals, everyone would have the right to flood the system with welfare recipients, food, housing, medical. If they have all of that shit, why would they work for a living?

 

[TruthNotBS]

Where in the constitution do they get reproductive rights.
If it was up to liberals, everyone would have the right to flood the system with welfare recipients, food, housing, medical. If they have all of that shit, why would they work for a living?

That's the outcome of depriving women of getting an abortion. Don't you realize that if you force a single woman to remain pregnant, she's eventually going to have to give birth? Are you aware of how expensive it is today, to give birth? Most of these women are going to be on Medicaid when they give birth, or they won't be insured but the hospital, and taxpayers, will nonetheless, still have to incur the cost. Abortions are much cheaper.

Women should have rights over their bodies. Their person. Personal sovereignty, especially over one's reproductive organs and system. The US Constitution has the 4th Amendment, which covers personal sovereignty. Of course, it was written by a bunch of old, white, rich slave owners, so it's a bit ironic, but nonetheless, it defends a person's right to their personal sovereignty.

As far as your claim that if human beings live in a society that affords them the right to the bear essentials of life, they're not going to do anything with their lives, is just nonsense. People need a foundation upon which to build something for themselves. Now being that we're entering into the era of advanced automation and artificial intelligence, socialism is a necessity, without it, people will starve to death. That's why billionaires are now always talking about the government giving everyone a UBI, i.e. Universal Basic Income, because they know what is coming. Unemployment in a few years is going to be through the roof, due to full automation and AI. Capitalism can't survive without socialism, especially in the future.

 

[Slyhunter]

That's the outcome of depriving women of getting an abortion. Don't you realize that if you force a single woman to remain pregnant, she's eventually going to have to give birth? Are you aware of how expensive it is today, to give birth? Most of these women are going to be on Medicaid when they give birth, or they won't be insured but the hospital, and taxpayers, will nonetheless, still have to incur the cost. Abortions are much cheaper.

Women should have rights over their bodies. Their person. Personal sovereignty, especially over one's reproductive organs and system. The US Constitution has the 4th Amendment, which covers personal sovereignty. Of course, it was written by a bunch of old, white, rich slave owners, so it's a bit ironic, but nonetheless, it defends a person's right to their personal sovereignty.

As far as your claim that if human beings live in a society that affords them the right to the bear essentials of life, they're not going to do anything with their lives, is just nonsense. People need a foundation upon which to build something for themselves. Now being that we're entering into the era of advanced automation and artificial intelligence, socialism is a necessity, without it, people will starve to death. That's why billionaires are now always talking about the government giving everyone a UBI, i.e. Universal Basic Income, because they know what is coming. Unemployment in a few years is going to be through he roof, due to full automation and AI. Capitalism can't survive without socialism, especially in the future.

Again we are back to the reasonable, 16 weeks solution.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Again we are back to the reasonable, 16 weeks solution.

Yes, I meant she's sovereign over her body up to a certain point. We should be reasonable, right? I'm OK with 16 to 20 weeks gestation. That's 4 to 5 months when she can get an abortion. She has no excuse, for needing to get one after that, for any reason other than to save her life. To avoid serious medical complications.

 

[initforme]

Then why are so many rich woman choosing career over a personal life and not having sex?

Because they're smarter than those stuck in the house. The trend is only going to grow and more young comes are going to forego having kids. Then some kooks will tell us that's a bad thing.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Because they're smarter than those stuck in the house. The trend is only going to grow and more young comes are going to forego having kids. Then some kooks will tell us that's a bad thing.

We're eventually going to have artificial wombs. Women won't even need to get pregnant anymore to have a baby. They'll be able to have children through artificial means. Synthetic wombs.

 

[initforme]

We're eventually going to have artificial wombs. Women won't even need to get pregnant anymore to have a baby. They'll be able to have children through artificial means. Synthetic wombs.

Hmmm. I think there's going to be alot less women having kids as they are now a firm part of the workforce and want to further their careers and have nice things.

 

[Slyhunter]

We're eventually going to have artificial wombs. Women won't even need to get pregnant anymore to have a baby. They'll be able to have children through artificial means. Synthetic wombs.

And then we'll have sex by touching hands.

 

[Frankenstein]

I have an answer, that's it. People are going to have sex with each other, just as they eat, sleep, and relieve themselves in the bathroom. Sex is natural and it will continue to happen, despite all of your hangups about strangers having sex. Under capitalism, society is highly sexualized, because everything is commodified. We live in an environment that uses sex, to generate profits, to attract customers..etc. Abortion is a way to mitigate the negative consequences of this high level of promiscuity, and to do otherwise is much worse. It's more expensive, in every way imaginable.

It makes me sick how you trivialize life, based on money! People need to learn self control, and accountability, secular society unfortunately has made that irrelevant

 

[Frankenstein]

A fetus is not a “separate“ human being. Those of you to say that are lying.

It does matter Saint Frankenstein when a fetus is incapable of living an independent separate life. Society has no interest in protecting or duty to protect that fetus’s life from it’s potential birthmother.

It does matter, it has separate DNA, may even have a separate blood type! It is a separate human being. I know a lot of liberal adults that still can't lie separately from their mother, well their basement anyway

 

[Frankenstein]

That's the outcome of depriving women of getting an abortion. Don't you realize that if you force a single woman to remain pregnant, she's eventually going to have to give birth? Are you aware of how expensive it is today, to give birth? Most of these women are going to be on Medicaid when they give birth, or they won't be insured but the hospital, and taxpayers, will nonetheless, still have to incur the cost. Abortions are much cheaper.

Women should have rights over their bodies. Their person. Personal sovereignty, especially over one's reproductive organs and system. The US Constitution has the 4th Amendment, which covers personal sovereignty. Of course, it was written by a bunch of old, white, rich slave owners, so it's a bit ironic, but nonetheless, it defends a person's right to their personal sovereignty.

As far as your claim that if human beings live in a society that affords them the right to the bear essentials of life, they're not going to do anything with their lives, is just nonsense. People need a foundation upon which to build something for themselves. Now being that we're entering into the era of advanced automation and artificial intelligence, socialism is a necessity, without it, people will starve to death. That's why billionaires are now always talking about the government giving everyone a UBI, i.e. Universal Basic Income, because they know what is coming. Unemployment in a few years is going to be through the roof, due to full automation and AI. Capitalism can't survive without socialism, especially in the future.

That is the problem with adults who can't control themselves! Tell men, and women if they are not ready to be responsible for a child, to make sure pregnancy doesn't happen.

 

[DukeU]

I'm responding to a lot of people on my own. First of all, you have a misconception of how the federal government is funded. Our taxes are relevant for local and state governments, not the federal, which is the exclusive issuer of the USD, and has many ways of funneling money out of the economy to avoid inflation, besides federal taxes. So that's your first misunderstanding. Second, we don't live in a vacuum. If we live in society, then we have certain obligations and part of that is paying taxes, whether it's an income tax or sales tax, or some other fee, that's how we maintain our infrastructure.

If you, as I already explained, ignore the social repercussions of depriving women of the medical care that they need, in this area, forcing women to remain pregnant, the cost will be much more than if you resolve it with an abortion. Aborting their pregnancies is much cheaper in the long run, than forcing them to remain pregnant and give birth to unwanted children. I already explained why.

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Most of the single women having abortions would have to spend even more money using Medicaid to give birth. ​

You could have just said yes.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Hmmm. I think there's going to be alot less women having kids as they are now a firm part of the workforce and want to further their careers and have nice things.

People are going to have a lot more free time, as advanced automation and AI begin to produce practically everything that we consume. Smart robots will work 24/7, for a few cents hourly in electricity.

 

[TruthNotBS]

You could have just said yes.

Forcing a woman to remain pregnant is a lot more expensive than an abortion, you idiot.