Report on Helicopter causing the accident in January

[Robert W]

AI is a huge help tracking the fatal crash of the Helicopter into the passenger jet.
I had a hunch from day one the helicopter caused the loss of life on it and the passenger jet.
No personal bias by me was intended. I simply wanted to have the truth explained.
Here it is.

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The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) investigation into the Reagan National Airport mid-air collision is ongoing, with preliminary findings suggesting that the current helicopter routes around the airport pose an intolerable risk to aviation safety. The collision involved a commercial jet and an Army Black Hawk helicopter, resulting in 67 fatalities.

Key Findings and Developments:

• Preliminary Report:
  The NTSB has released a preliminary report on the collision, with the final report expected to take more than a year.
  
  
• Helicopter Altitudes:
  The report indicates discrepancies in the Black Hawk's altimeter readings, with the pilots reporting different altitudes during the incident.
  
  
• Communication Issues:
  There were also concerns about the helicopter pilots not receiving calls from the Reagan National Airport control tower.
  
  
• Safety Concerns:
  The NTSB has identified a pattern of near-miss events at DCA, with a significant number of close proximity events between commercial planes and helicopters.
  
  
• Immediate Changes Recommended:
  The NTSB is recommending the FAA permanently ban helicopter operations near Reagan when runways 15 and 33 are in use and designate an alternative helicopter route.
  
  
• FAA Restrictions:
  The FAA has implemented temporary restrictions on helicopter operations near DCA, and these restrictions are expected to remain in place.

 

[excalibur]

See:

Thread 'New York Times Downplays Pilot Error in Deadly DC Crash To Push Preferred Narrative'

Apr 27, 2025

Well, you have to break some eggs to make an omelet.

But the eggs are human beings, and the Soviets don't care about how many may die pushing their agenda.

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Once again, the failing New York Times is running interference and burying the real story to protect their preferred narrative. An article headlined "Missteps, Equipment Problems and a Common but Risky Practice Led to a Fatal Crash," which is about January's devastating crash at Reagan National Airport, is a textbook example of mainstream media malpractice.​

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[Concerned American]

AI is a huge help tracking the fatal crash of the Helicopter into the passenger jet.
I had a hunch from day one the helicopter caused the loss of life on it and the passenger jet.
No personal bias by me was intended. I simply wanted to have the truth explained.
Here it is.

AI Overview
Learn more

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) investigation into the Reagan National Airport mid-air collision is ongoing, with preliminary findings suggesting that the current helicopter routes around the airport pose an intolerable risk to aviation safety. The collision involved a commercial jet and an Army Black Hawk helicopter, resulting in 67 fatalities.

Key Findings and Developments:

• Preliminary Report:
  The NTSB has released a preliminary report on the collision, with the final report expected to take more than a year.
  
  
• Helicopter Altitudes:
  The report indicates discrepancies in the Black Hawk's altimeter readings, with the pilots reporting different altitudes during the incident.
  
  
• Communication Issues:
  There were also concerns about the helicopter pilots not receiving calls from the Reagan National Airport control tower.
  
  
• Safety Concerns:
  The NTSB has identified a pattern of near-miss events at DCA, with a significant number of close proximity events between commercial planes and helicopters.
  
  
• Immediate Changes Recommended:
  The NTSB is recommending the FAA permanently ban helicopter operations near Reagan when runways 15 and 33 are in use and designate an alternative helicopter route.
  
  
• FAA Restrictions:
  The FAA has implemented temporary restrictions on helicopter operations near DCA, and these restrictions are expected to remain in place.

There is so much gov't helicopter traffic in the DC area at any given time, that it is amazing that there aren't collisions on a daily basis.

 

[Robert W]

There is so much gov't helicopter traffic in the DC area at any given time, that it is amazing that there aren't collisions on a daily basis.

That is why FAA stepped in to put more control on helicopters.

 

[Concerned American]

That is why FAA stepped in to put more control on helicopters.

The last time I was there was in the mid 80s and the helicopters were like flies then. Seems like they have become mid-level manager's preferred mode of transportation.

 

[Robert W]

The last time I was there was in the mid 80s and the helicopters were like flies then. Seems like they have become mid-level manager's preferred mode of transportation.

The last time I flew from Reagan airport was around the time that Bush was president.
Other times I flew to and from Dulles.

 

[Concerned American]

The last time I flew from Reagan airport was around the time that Bush was president.
Other times I flew to and from Dulles.

I didn't lose anything there and doubt that I'll ever return.

 

[Donald H]

There is so much gov't helicopter traffic in the DC area at any given time, that it is amazing that there aren't collisions on a daily basis.

Everybody knew from the beginning my friend, that the helicopter was completely to blame.

But it's surprising that they had to invent some kind of faulty altimeter or error to cover up for the military!ll
Couldn't they have just told the truth on the H pilot's negligence?

 

[leftwinger]

DEI Broad (former Obiden assistant) knew more than her co-pilot and decided not to listen to the male co-pilot. Marxist pigs can sugar-Coat and spin all they want. Facts are available.//

*****
New details about the fatal helicopter-plane crash near DC’s Reagan Airport reveal the female pilot was repeatedly ignored warnings from her male co-pilot to turn away but she flew right into the passenger jet.

An American Airlines flight carrying approximately 64 souls collided with a Blackhawk helicopter near Washington D.C. Reagan National Airport (DCA) in late January.

All 64 passengers in the jet were killed.
The three pilots in the Blackhawk helicopter also died in the explosive crash.



*****
On Sunday, The New York Times released new details about the fatal crash and it revealed Rebecca Lobach repeatedly ignored warnings from her right seat about altitude.

Lobach’s male co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, directly told her to turn away, and she flew straight into a passenger jet.
“Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, to change course,” The Times reported.

“The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach. He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank,” The New York Times reported.

“Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet,” The Times reported.

And the fatal mistake, as reported by The Times, “She did not turn left.” (She was the pilot, SHE had final say-so) smh.

 

[Concerned American]

DEI Broad (former Obiden assistant) knew more than her co-pilot and decided not to listen to the male co-pilot. Marxist pigs can sugar-Coat and spin all they want. Facts are available.// View attachment 1107189



*****
New details about the fatal helicopter-plane crash near DC’s Reagan Airport reveal the female pilot was repeatedly ignored warnings from her male co-pilot to turn away but she flew right into the passenger jet.

An American Airlines flight carrying approximately 64 souls collided with a Blackhawk helicopter near Washington D.C. Reagan National Airport (DCA) in late January.

All 64 passengers in the jet were killed.
The three pilots in the Blackhawk helicopter also died in the explosive crash.



*****
On Sunday, The New York Times released new details about the fatal crash and it revealed Rebecca Lobach repeatedly ignored warnings from her right seat about altitude.

Lobach’s male co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, directly told her to turn away, and she flew straight into a passenger jet.
“Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, to change course,” The Times reported.

“The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach. He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank,” The New York Times reported.

“Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet,” The Times reported.

And the fatal mistake, as reported by The Times, “She did not turn left.” (She was the pilot, SHE had final say-so) smh.

The crowded skies of the DC metro area hardly seem to be an appropriate place to be holding flying school.

 

[Donald H]

The orders to turn away are bullshit. The military helicopter flew where it shouldn't have been, due to military arrogance.

Same as the USS Liberty and the Kennedy cover up. Because the American people let them!

 

[Concerned American]

The orders to turn away are bullshit. The military helicopter flew where it shouldn't have been, due to military arrogance.

Same as the USS Liberty and the Kennedy cover up. Because the American people let them!

Run along with your moronic conspiracy theories, duck. As usual, you haven't a clue of what you are talking about.

 

[Donald H]

Run along with your moronic conspiracy theories, duck. As usual, you haven't a clue of what you are talking about.

The reason why the order to turn away is bullshit my friend, is because somebody else would have done it.

As was common practice they relied on the passenger plane to stay out of the military's way. Ya can't make this shit up my friend, when operation procedures are well established!

Story B: The altimeter?? LOL

That smells worse than the faked shot on Trump's ear!

 

[Concerned American]

Ya can't make this shit up

You just did, duck. Now STFU. You've never been to DC and don't have a clue.

 

[Donald H]

You just did, duck. Now STFU. You've never been to DC and don't have a clue.

I've been to Ladysmith twice, so there!

 

[okfine]

Still fucking up...

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

DEI Broad (former Obiden assistant) knew more than her co-pilot and decided not to listen to the male co-pilot. Marxist pigs can sugar-Coat and spin all they want. Facts are available.// View attachment 1107189



*****
New details about the fatal helicopter-plane crash near DC’s Reagan Airport reveal the female pilot was repeatedly ignored warnings from her male co-pilot to turn away but she flew right into the passenger jet.

An American Airlines flight carrying approximately 64 souls collided with a Blackhawk helicopter near Washington D.C. Reagan National Airport (DCA) in late January.

All 64 passengers in the jet were killed.
The three pilots in the Blackhawk helicopter also died in the explosive crash.



*****
On Sunday, The New York Times released new details about the fatal crash and it revealed Rebecca Lobach repeatedly ignored warnings from her right seat about altitude.

Lobach’s male co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, directly told her to turn away, and she flew straight into a passenger jet.
“Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, to change course,” The Times reported.

“The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach. He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank,” The New York Times reported.

“Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet,” The Times reported.

And the fatal mistake, as reported by The Times, “She did not turn left.” (She was the pilot, SHE had final say-so) smh.

Unless the FARs et al have changed since I was in flight training, the pilot in command is always the instructor, not the student.

Think about it the same way you would when students are in a driver training class. The reason the training vehicles are equipped with a dual set of controls is presumably so that the person in the right seat (the instructor) can take control of the vehicle in the event the student in the left seat does something dangerous, including not responding promptly or properly to a command issued by their instructor.

The NTSB reports are available online and can be reviewed by anyone who thinks that altimeter issues are non-existent or are merely an excuse in this case for some unknown reason:

NTSB Aviation Investigation Search