Repeal the 22nd Amendment and the 17th, too.

[postman]

The question is if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

I would go with an Electoral College where each state gives 2 EV's to the overall State winner, and the rest are divided up by congressional district.

Some states have started doing that, but the solidly red and solidly blue states would be against it, since they would go from winner take all 100% - 0%
to apportioned 80% - 20%

 

[rightwinger]

No, they can't because laws passed at the State level overrule laws at the local level.

And those rural areas provide food so the urban areas don't fucking starve.

Urban areas get food from all over the country and all over the world.
Urban areas have always supported rural areas with roads, electricity, schools, hospitals that they can’t justify because of their populations

 

[postman]

Actually they couldn't. In bicameral legislatures the lower house is still based on population. Changing the 14th or adding an amendment to allow geographical upper houses would bring the balance back.

Just the opposite. The "balance" as you called it, was like the 3/5ths compromise. Intended to give slave states enough extra representation, much more than their actual population. That they could hold off congress from passing any laws to outlaw slavery.

 

[postman]

And those rural areas provide food so the urban areas don't fucking starve.

They "sell" the food, they don't "donate it". The urban areas are financially supporting the rural areas. Both commercially and with their taxes.

 

[postman]

They don't seem to understand symbiotic relationships.

You don't seem to understand that such goods are now global.

 

[hadit]

You don't seem to understand that such goods are now global.

And, of course, the urbanites want their unspoiled rural retirement places. Let's make it clear, rural areas could survive without urban centers a lot longer than urban centers could survive without rural ones, and in fact will do so when the inevitable economic crash happens.

 

[postman]

Urban areas get food from all over the country and all over the world.
Urban areas have always supported rural areas with roads, electricity, schools, hospitals that they can’t justify because of their populations

Just look at the TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority) and rural electrification. The post office and rural free delivery.

 

[martybegan]

They can cast their own ordinances, but laws are the purview of states and nations.

No, laws can be passed by Cities as well. I linked it to you previously.

 

[martybegan]

Some states have started doing that, but the solidly red and solidly blue states would be against it, since they would go from winner take all 100% - 0%
to apportioned 80% - 20%

More and more reasons to have a Constitutional convention to sort this and other things out.

 

[martybegan]

Urban areas get food from all over the country and all over the world.
Urban areas have always supported rural areas with roads, electricity, schools, hospitals that they can’t justify because of their populations

Including the ones locally.

People in rural areas pay taxes as well. Farmers pay plenty of taxes.

 

[martybegan]

Just the opposite. The "balance" as you called it, was like the 3/5ths compromise. Intended to give slave states enough extra representation, much more than their actual population. That they could hold off congress from passing any laws to outlaw slavery.

And that compromise held for a century or so before it got fixed.

 

[martybegan]

They "sell" the food, they don't "donate it". The urban areas are financially supporting the rural areas. Both commercially and with their taxes.

Yes, they sell them. Urban areas still need rural ones to survive.

 

[BackAgain]

Only to someone who craves a dictatorship, like you do.

I don’t. And your inability to be even moderately consistent is understood. You mindless hack drones are all alike.

 

[postman]

And, of course, the urbanites want their unspoiled rural retirement places. Let's make it clear, rural areas could survive without urban centers a lot longer than urban centers could survive without rural ones, and in fact will do so when the inevitable economic crash happens.

Not when we have a global economy.

Produce: The majority of fruits and vegetables come from Mexico and South America.
Meat and fish: Canada is the largest supplier of meat and fish.
Tropical products: The U.S. imports coffee, cocoa, and rubber.

And rely on the world for food
The United States imports about 15% of its food supply, but the percentage of imported food has been increasing in recent years:
2008–2022: The percentage of imported food and beverages increased from 12.4% to 17.3%.
Fruits and nuts: Nearly 60% of fruits and nuts consumed in the U.S. are imported.
Milled grains and oils: 57.4% of milled grains and oils consumed in the U.S. are imported.
Sweeteners: 45% of sweeteners consumed in the U.S. are imported.
Vegetables: 40.4% of vegetables consumed in the U.S. are imported.
Seafood: 70–85% of seafood consumed in the U.S. is imported.

 

[BackAgain]

Well, the People want the 17th amendment. I realize that bothers you vermin.

The people have very little say in it. And if they are to be educated, they will see why it’s a miserable mistake that needs to be corrected. Only vermin who know what it’s all about and still want it are vermin. You vermin.

 

[postman]

No, laws can be passed by Cities as well. I linked it to you previously.

That was the NYC law site.
If you clicked on any actual "laws" they were NYC ordinances and regulations.

 

[martybegan]

That was the NYC law site.
If you clicked on any actual "laws" they were NYC ordinances and regulations.

They call them laws. They say "the laws of New York City"

Why are you stuck on semantics? You riding the spectrum line?

 

[BackAgain]

14th not the 22nd

No. 22nd.

 

[postman]

Including the ones locally.

People in rural areas pay taxes as well. Farmers pay plenty of taxes.

Farmers pay a fraction of the taxes that urban people. So much so, that people like Trump designate part of their property as "farmland" in order to save on their taxes.

 

[postman]

And that compromise held for a century or so before it got fixed.

The compromise held up until the CIVIL WAR, made it no longer necessary.