Religious Training In Public School?

[Hollie]

First global victory of the devil was the proud separation of church and state.

The second global victory of the devil is public schools.

Once you don't get the news that there is a Christ, or you reject Him, even if under peer pressure, your life will no longer be anything but running up a down escalator.

What better way to implement universal slavery than making you believe that it is your government that is God. Jesus rejected this in the desert.

But Stalin of the Soviet Union said that "the antichrists are the real enemies of socialism and we believe that we have to fight a real struggle against real enemies".

Boy that Satan sure is kicking gawd's ass. The vast majority of humans who have ever lived (were talking 99%, here) have and had no knowledge of or interest in the iron aged abrahamic fairy tales.

They are actually recompiles Hinduism tales. The source of the information is a single source. And it encloses all religions.

Well that's all total, disprovable nonsense.

Look at the names Abram and Sarah. There was a post somewhere on this forum that presented their Hindu equivalents and they are almost identical.

Yes, we know the Abrahamic religions are plagiaristic. But that Doesn't account for the many direct and clear contradictions not just among them, but among all religions. The unifying principle is NOT god or monotheism. It is the tendency for humans to believe utter nonsense and to ascribe magical attributes and causes where none exist.

You shall be surprised. Hinduism, and pretty much all religions have quickly discovetrd, that what the deception is is not the magic but the physical world. So it is the other way around.

Self delusion is not discovery.

There are two types of people in this world. The ones that are created by good that is God, and the ones that hard created by bad that is the devil. It is always interesting to see how these two arrive at opposite understanding when they look at the same thing. In othercwords, the same thing appears as two opposite observations for them.

This is described in the bible too, for example the same God ended up in opposite interpretations between Cain and Abel.

One of the major purpose to exclude religious education from public schools is to suppress knowledge like this. That is the flower people's ability to defend themselves.

Only two types of people in the world? You reference one of the two types as those being created by ‘God’. I am assuming that your reference to ‘God’ is to the Christian ‘God(s)’. I think you can understand that such a statement is dismissive of all the other gods and further that such a statement condemning non-Christians as “bad” is exclusive and contains elements of divisiveness.

How do you for certain that, for example, the Hindu gods are the true gods with the Christian gods being subordinate to them?

 

[anotherlife]

First global victory of the devil was the proud separation of church and state.

The second global victory of the devil is public schools.

Once you don't get the news that there is a Christ, or you reject Him, even if under peer pressure, your life will no longer be anything but running up a down escalator.

What better way to implement universal slavery than making you believe that it is your government that is God. Jesus rejected this in the desert.

But Stalin of the Soviet Union said that "the antichrists are the real enemies of socialism and we believe that we have to fight a real struggle against real enemies".

Boy that Satan sure is kicking gawd's ass. The vast majority of humans who have ever lived (were talking 99%, here) have and had no knowledge of or interest in the iron aged abrahamic fairy tales.

They are actually recompiles Hinduism tales. The source of the information is a single source. And it encloses all religions.

Well that's all total, disprovable nonsense.

Look at the names Abram and Sarah. There was a post somewhere on this forum that presented their Hindu equivalents and they are almost identical.

Yes, we know the Abrahamic religions are plagiaristic. But that Doesn't account for the many direct and clear contradictions not just among them, but among all religions. The unifying principle is NOT god or monotheism. It is the tendency for humans to believe utter nonsense and to ascribe magical attributes and causes where none exist.

You shall be surprised. Hinduism, and pretty much all religions have quickly discovetrd, that what the deception is is not the magic but the physical world. So it is the other way around.

Self delusion is not discovery.

There are two types of people in this world. The ones that are created by good that is God, and the ones that hard created by bad that is the devil. It is always interesting to see how these two arrive at opposite understanding when they look at the same thing. In othercwords, the same thing appears as two opposite observations for them.

This is described in the bible too, for example the same God ended up in opposite interpretations between Cain and Abel.

One of the major purpose to exclude religious education from public schools is to suppress knowledge like this. That is the flower people's ability to defend themselves.

Only two types of people in the world? You reference one of the two types as those being created by ‘God’. I am assuming that your reference to ‘God’ is to the Christian ‘God(s)’. I think you can understand that such a statement is dismissive of all the other gods and further that such a statement condemning non-Christians as “bad” is exclusive and contains elements of divisiveness.

How do you for certain that, for example, the Hindu gods are the true gods with the Christian gods being subordinate to them?

Hindus say that their gods can be understood as various aspects of a single God. In fact the judeo-christian godhead is a concept in the bible that is imported from Hinduism. All religions speak of the same god, whether represented as plural or single.

The same way, Satanists represent their ruler as a plurality of demons or a single devil.

So there is only two sources of power the good that is God and the bad that is the devil.

The bible says that only the good that is God creates. But creation can be indirect, for example you can go to a junkyard, pick up a thousand pieces of different cars, then patch them together to make your own car.
God created that too but only indirectly, directly it is your creation. That is how the devil creates people.

That is why there are only two types of people in the world.

You can take it one step further and say that the devil does not imitate genesis and takes the same dust that God took to create Adam when he breathes his evil spirit into it to give it a devil person life.

But this is probably not true on earth because then the devil would not have fathered Cain and Cain would not have feared that other people kill him. Cain would have come independently like the arrival of the watchers.

 

[Hollie]

First global victory of the devil was the proud separation of church and state.

The second global victory of the devil is public schools.

Once you don't get the news that there is a Christ, or you reject Him, even if under peer pressure, your life will no longer be anything but running up a down escalator.

What better way to implement universal slavery than making you believe that it is your government that is God. Jesus rejected this in the desert.

But Stalin of the Soviet Union said that "the antichrists are the real enemies of socialism and we believe that we have to fight a real struggle against real enemies".

Boy that Satan sure is kicking gawd's ass. The vast majority of humans who have ever lived (were talking 99%, here) have and had no knowledge of or interest in the iron aged abrahamic fairy tales.

They are actually recompiles Hinduism tales. The source of the information is a single source. And it encloses all religions.

Well that's all total, disprovable nonsense.

Look at the names Abram and Sarah. There was a post somewhere on this forum that presented their Hindu equivalents and they are almost identical.

Yes, we know the Abrahamic religions are plagiaristic. But that Doesn't account for the many direct and clear contradictions not just among them, but among all religions. The unifying principle is NOT god or monotheism. It is the tendency for humans to believe utter nonsense and to ascribe magical attributes and causes where none exist.

You shall be surprised. Hinduism, and pretty much all religions have quickly discovetrd, that what the deception is is not the magic but the physical world. So it is the other way around.

Self delusion is not discovery.

There are two types of people in this world. The ones that are created by good that is God, and the ones that hard created by bad that is the devil. It is always interesting to see how these two arrive at opposite understanding when they look at the same thing. In othercwords, the same thing appears as two opposite observations for them.

This is described in the bible too, for example the same God ended up in opposite interpretations between Cain and Abel.

One of the major purpose to exclude religious education from public schools is to suppress knowledge like this. That is the flower people's ability to defend themselves.

Only two types of people in the world? You reference one of the two types as those being created by ‘God’. I am assuming that your reference to ‘God’ is to the Christian ‘God(s)’. I think you can understand that such a statement is dismissive of all the other gods and further that such a statement condemning non-Christians as “bad” is exclusive and contains elements of divisiveness.

How do you for certain that, for example, the Hindu gods are the true gods with the Christian gods being subordinate to them?

Hindus say that their gods can be understood as various aspects of a single God. In fact the judeochristian hothead is a concept in the bible that is imported from Hinduism. All religions speak of the same god, whether represented as plural or single.

The same way, Satanists represent their ruler as a plurality of demons or a single devil.

So there is only two sources of power the good that is God and the bad that is the devil.

The bible says that only the good that is God creates. But creation can be indirect, for example you can go to a junkyard, pick up a thousand pieces of different cars, then patch them together to make your own car.
God created that too but only indirectly, directly it is your creation. That is how the devil creates people.

That is why there are only two types of people in the world.

You can take it one step further and say that the devil does not imitate genesis and takes the same dust that God took to create Adam when he breathes his evil spirit into it to give it a devil person life.

But this is probably not true on earth because then the devil would not have fathered Cain and Cain would not have feared that other people kill him. Cain would have come independently like the arrival of the watchers.

All religions speak of the same god? That simply is not true.

You’re claims that devils create people? Fascinating.

 

[anotherlife]

First global victory of the devil was the proud separation of church and state.

The second global victory of the devil is public schools.

Once you don't get the news that there is a Christ, or you reject Him, even if under peer pressure, your life will no longer be anything but running up a down escalator.

What better way to implement universal slavery than making you believe that it is your government that is God. Jesus rejected this in the desert.

But Stalin of the Soviet Union said that "the antichrists are the real enemies of socialism and we believe that we have to fight a real struggle against real enemies".

Boy that Satan sure is kicking gawd's ass. The vast majority of humans who have ever lived (were talking 99%, here) have and had no knowledge of or interest in the iron aged abrahamic fairy tales.

They are actually recompiles Hinduism tales. The source of the information is a single source. And it encloses all religions.

Well that's all total, disprovable nonsense.

Look at the names Abram and Sarah. There was a post somewhere on this forum that presented their Hindu equivalents and they are almost identical.

Yes, we know the Abrahamic religions are plagiaristic. But that Doesn't account for the many direct and clear contradictions not just among them, but among all religions. The unifying principle is NOT god or monotheism. It is the tendency for humans to believe utter nonsense and to ascribe magical attributes and causes where none exist.

You shall be surprised. Hinduism, and pretty much all religions have quickly discovetrd, that what the deception is is not the magic but the physical world. So it is the other way around.

Self delusion is not discovery.

There are two types of people in this world. The ones that are created by good that is God, and the ones that hard created by bad that is the devil. It is always interesting to see how these two arrive at opposite understanding when they look at the same thing. In othercwords, the same thing appears as two opposite observations for them.

This is described in the bible too, for example the same God ended up in opposite interpretations between Cain and Abel.

One of the major purpose to exclude religious education from public schools is to suppress knowledge like this. That is the flower people's ability to defend themselves.

Only two types of people in the world? You reference one of the two types as those being created by ‘God’. I am assuming that your reference to ‘God’ is to the Christian ‘God(s)’. I think you can understand that such a statement is dismissive of all the other gods and further that such a statement condemning non-Christians as “bad” is exclusive and contains elements of divisiveness.

How do you for certain that, for example, the Hindu gods are the true gods with the Christian gods being subordinate to them?

Hindus godhat

First global victory of the devil was the proud separation of church and state.

The second global victory of the devil is public schools.

Once you don't get the news that there is a Christ, or you reject Him, even if under peer pressure, your life will no longer be anything but running up a down escalator.

What better way to implement universal slavery than making you believe that it is your government that is God. Jesus rejected this in the desert.

But Stalin of the Soviet Union said that "the antichrists are the real enemies of socialism and we believe that we have to fight a real struggle against real enemies".

Boy that Satan sure is kicking gawd's ass. The vast majority of humans who have ever lived (were talking 99%, here) have and had no knowledge of or interest in the iron aged abrahamic fairy tales.

They are actually recompiles Hinduism tales. The source of the information is a single source. And it encloses all religions.

Well that's all total, disprovable nonsense.

Look at the names Abram and Sarah. There was a post somewhere on this forum that presented their Hindu equivalents and they are almost identical.

Yes, we know the Abrahamic religions are plagiaristic. But that Doesn't account for the many direct and clear contradictions not just among them, but among all religions. The unifying principle is NOT god or monotheism. It is the tendency for humans to believe utter nonsense and to ascribe magical attributes and causes where none exist.

You shall be surprised. Hinduism, and pretty much all religions have quickly discovetrd, that what the deception is is not the magic but the physical world. So it is the other way around.

Self delusion is not discovery.

There are two types of people in this world. The ones that are created by good that is God, and the ones that hard created by bad that is the devil. It is always interesting to see how these two arrive at opposite understanding when they look at the same thing. In othercwords, the same thing appears as two opposite observations for them.

This is described in the bible too, for example the same God ended up in opposite interpretations between Cain and Abel.

One of the major purpose to exclude religious education from public schools is to suppress knowledge like this. That is the flower people's ability to defend themselves.

Only two types of people in the world? You reference one of the two types as those being created by ‘God’. I am assuming that your reference to ‘God’ is to the Christian ‘God(s)’. I think you can understand that such a statement is dismissive of all the other gods and further that such a statement condemning non-Christians as “bad” is exclusive and contains elements of divisiveness.

How do you for certain that, for example, the Hindu gods are the true gods with the Christian gods being subordinate to them?

Hindus say that their gods can be understood as various aspects of a single God. In fact the judeochristian hothead is a concept in the bible that is imported from Hinduism. All religions speak of the same god, whether represented as plural or single.

The same way, Satanists represent their ruler as a plurality of demons or a single devil.

So there is only two sources of power the good that is God and the bad that is the devil.

The bible says that only the good that is God creates. But creation can be indirect, for example you can go to a junkyard, pick up a thousand pieces of different cars, then patch them together to make your own car.
God created that too but only indirectly, directly it is your creation. That is how the devil creates people.

That is why there are only two types of people in the world.

You can take it one step further and say that the devil does not imitate genesis and takes the same dust that God took to create Adam when he breathes his evil spirit into it to give it a devil person life.

But this is probably not true on earth because then the devil would not have fathered Cain and Cain would not have feared that other people kill him. Cain would have come independently like the arrival of the watchers.

All religions speak of the same god? That simply is not true.

You’re claims that devils create people? Fascinating.

their gods can be understood as various aspects of a single God. In fact the judeo-christian godhead is a concept in the bible that is imported from Hinduism. All religions speak of the same god, whether represented as plural or single.

The same way, Satanists represent their ruler as a plurality of demons or a single devil.

So there is only two sources of power the good that is God and the bad that is the devil.

The bible says that only the good that is God creates. But creation can be indirect, for example you can go to a junkyard, pick up a thousand pieces of different cars, then patch them together to make your own car.
God created that too but only indirectly, directly it is your creation. That is how the devil creates people.

That is why there are only two types of people in the world.

You can take it one step further and say that the devil does not imitate genesis and takes the same dust that God took to create Adam when he breathes his evil spirit into it to give it a devil person life.

But this is probably not true on earth because then the devil would not have fathered Cain and Cain would not have feared that other people kill him. Cain would have come independently like the arrival of the watchers.

All religions speak of the same god? That simply is not true.

You’re claims that devils create people? Fascinating.

All religions speak of the same godhead when they speak of a God or gods. Do you have a concept of an alternative God? If you do, it can most likely be reconciled with the godhead or with the devil.

The bible reports that the devil creates people. First there is Cain. Then there are the watchers. Then there is Jesus pointing it out directly verbally when he tells a few of those Pharisees in front of Him that their father is the devil. Plus many other references.

You know that a person is created by the devil or that a person is possessed by demons that are created by the devil when you see that even the best intention of that person comes out infinitely evil.

 

[Hollie]

First global victory of the devil was the proud separation of church and state.

The second global victory of the devil is public schools.

Once you don't get the news that there is a Christ, or you reject Him, even if under peer pressure, your life will no longer be anything but running up a down escalator.

What better way to implement universal slavery than making you believe that it is your government that is God. Jesus rejected this in the desert.

But Stalin of the Soviet Union said that "the antichrists are the real enemies of socialism and we believe that we have to fight a real struggle against real enemies".

Boy that Satan sure is kicking gawd's ass. The vast majority of humans who have ever lived (were talking 99%, here) have and had no knowledge of or interest in the iron aged abrahamic fairy tales.

They are actually recompiles Hinduism tales. The source of the information is a single source. And it encloses all religions.

Well that's all total, disprovable nonsense.

Look at the names Abram and Sarah. There was a post somewhere on this forum that presented their Hindu equivalents and they are almost identical.

Yes, we know the Abrahamic religions are plagiaristic. But that Doesn't account for the many direct and clear contradictions not just among them, but among all religions. The unifying principle is NOT god or monotheism. It is the tendency for humans to believe utter nonsense and to ascribe magical attributes and causes where none exist.

You shall be surprised. Hinduism, and pretty much all religions have quickly discovetrd, that what the deception is is not the magic but the physical world. So it is the other way around.

Self delusion is not discovery.

There are two types of people in this world. The ones that are created by good that is God, and the ones that hard created by bad that is the devil. It is always interesting to see how these two arrive at opposite understanding when they look at the same thing. In othercwords, the same thing appears as two opposite observations for them.

This is described in the bible too, for example the same God ended up in opposite interpretations between Cain and Abel.

One of the major purpose to exclude religious education from public schools is to suppress knowledge like this. That is the flower people's ability to defend themselves.

Only two types of people in the world? You reference one of the two types as those being created by ‘God’. I am assuming that your reference to ‘God’ is to the Christian ‘God(s)’. I think you can understand that such a statement is dismissive of all the other gods and further that such a statement condemning non-Christians as “bad” is exclusive and contains elements of divisiveness.

How do you for certain that, for example, the Hindu gods are the true gods with the Christian gods being subordinate to them?

Hindus godhat

First global victory of the devil was the proud separation of church and state.

The second global victory of the devil is public schools.

Once you don't get the news that there is a Christ, or you reject Him, even if under peer pressure, your life will no longer be anything but running up a down escalator.

What better way to implement universal slavery than making you believe that it is your government that is God. Jesus rejected this in the desert.

But Stalin of the Soviet Union said that "the antichrists are the real enemies of socialism and we believe that we have to fight a real struggle against real enemies".

Boy that Satan sure is kicking gawd's ass. The vast majority of humans who have ever lived (were talking 99%, here) have and had no knowledge of or interest in the iron aged abrahamic fairy tales.

They are actually recompiles Hinduism tales. The source of the information is a single source. And it encloses all religions.

Well that's all total, disprovable nonsense.

Look at the names Abram and Sarah. There was a post somewhere on this forum that presented their Hindu equivalents and they are almost identical.

Yes, we know the Abrahamic religions are plagiaristic. But that Doesn't account for the many direct and clear contradictions not just among them, but among all religions. The unifying principle is NOT god or monotheism. It is the tendency for humans to believe utter nonsense and to ascribe magical attributes and causes where none exist.

You shall be surprised. Hinduism, and pretty much all religions have quickly discovetrd, that what the deception is is not the magic but the physical world. So it is the other way around.

Self delusion is not discovery.

There are two types of people in this world. The ones that are created by good that is God, and the ones that hard created by bad that is the devil. It is always interesting to see how these two arrive at opposite understanding when they look at the same thing. In othercwords, the same thing appears as two opposite observations for them.

This is described in the bible too, for example the same God ended up in opposite interpretations between Cain and Abel.

One of the major purpose to exclude religious education from public schools is to suppress knowledge like this. That is the flower people's ability to defend themselves.

Only two types of people in the world? You reference one of the two types as those being created by ‘God’. I am assuming that your reference to ‘God’ is to the Christian ‘God(s)’. I think you can understand that such a statement is dismissive of all the other gods and further that such a statement condemning non-Christians as “bad” is exclusive and contains elements of divisiveness.

How do you for certain that, for example, the Hindu gods are the true gods with the Christian gods being subordinate to them?

Hindus say that their gods can be understood as various aspects of a single God. In fact the judeochristian hothead is a concept in the bible that is imported from Hinduism. All religions speak of the same god, whether represented as plural or single.

The same way, Satanists represent their ruler as a plurality of demons or a single devil.

So there is only two sources of power the good that is God and the bad that is the devil.

The bible says that only the good that is God creates. But creation can be indirect, for example you can go to a junkyard, pick up a thousand pieces of different cars, then patch them together to make your own car.
God created that too but only indirectly, directly it is your creation. That is how the devil creates people.

That is why there are only two types of people in the world.

You can take it one step further and say that the devil does not imitate genesis and takes the same dust that God took to create Adam when he breathes his evil spirit into it to give it a devil person life.

But this is probably not true on earth because then the devil would not have fathered Cain and Cain would not have feared that other people kill him. Cain would have come independently like the arrival of the watchers.

All religions speak of the same god? That simply is not true.

You’re claims that devils create people? Fascinating.

their gods can be understood as various aspects of a single God. In fact the judeo-christian godhead is a concept in the bible that is imported from Hinduism. All religions speak of the same god, whether represented as plural or single.

The same way, Satanists represent their ruler as a plurality of demons or a single devil.

So there is only two sources of power the good that is God and the bad that is the devil.

The bible says that only the good that is God creates. But creation can be indirect, for example you can go to a junkyard, pick up a thousand pieces of different cars, then patch them together to make your own car.
God created that too but only indirectly, directly it is your creation. That is how the devil creates people.

That is why there are only two types of people in the world.

You can take it one step further and say that the devil does not imitate genesis and takes the same dust that God took to create Adam when he breathes his evil spirit into it to give it a devil person life.

But this is probably not true on earth because then the devil would not have fathered Cain and Cain would not have feared that other people kill him. Cain would have come independently like the arrival of the watchers.

All religions speak of the same god? That simply is not true.

You’re claims that devils create people? Fascinating.

All religions speak of the same godhead when they speak of a God or gods. Do you have a concept of an alternative God? If you do, it can most likely be reconciled with the godhead or with the devil.

The bible reports that the devil creates people. First there is Cain. Then there are the watchers. Then there is Jesus pointing it out directly verbally when he tells a few of those Pharisees in front of Him that their father is the devil. Plus many other references.

You know that a person is created by the devil or that a person is possessed by demons that are created by the devil when you see that even the best intention of that person comes out infinitely evil.

It’s an interesting concept that your gods have competition in the industry of creating people. That would tend to reduce the Omni-everything supernatural powers of your gods.

I have no concept of any gods. To claim that all religions speak of the same godhead is simply not true. Gods of religions other than your gods are quantitatively and qualitatively different. It’s quite obvious that your gods are reinterpretations of earlier gods so perhaps you could tell us of the ‘genesis’ of the Christian gods? They were modeled on the earlier Greek gods, no?

 

[Unkotare]

Religious squabbles should be taken to the Religion Forum. Plenty of opportunities for anti-religion bigots to vent their insecurity there.

 

[anotherlife]

First global victory of the devil was the proud separation of church and state.

The second global victory of the devil is public schools.

Once you don't get the news that there is a Christ, or you reject Him, even if under peer pressure, your life will no longer be anything but running up a down escalator.

What better way to implement universal slavery than making you believe that it is your government that is God. Jesus rejected this in the desert.

But Stalin of the Soviet Union said that "the antichrists are the real enemies of socialism and we believe that we have to fight a real struggle against real enemies".

Boy that Satan sure is kicking gawd's ass. The vast majority of humans who have ever lived (were talking 99%, here) have and had no knowledge of or interest in the iron aged abrahamic fairy tales.

They are actually recompiles Hinduism tales. The source of the information is a single source. And it encloses all religions.

Well that's all total, disprovable nonsense.

Look at the names Abram and Sarah. There was a post somewhere on this forum that presented their Hindu equivalents and they are almost identical.

Yes, we know the Abrahamic religions are plagiaristic. But that Doesn't account for the many direct and clear contradictions not just among them, but among all religions. The unifying principle is NOT god or monotheism. It is the tendency for humans to believe utter nonsense and to ascribe magical attributes and causes where none exist.

You shall be surprised. Hinduism, and pretty much all religions have quickly discovetrd, that what the deception is is not the magic but the physical world. So it is the other way around.

Self delusion is not discovery.

There are two types of people in this world. The ones that are created by good that is God, and the ones that hard created by bad that is the devil. It is always interesting to see how these two arrive at opposite understanding when they look at the same thing. In othercwords, the same thing appears as two opposite observations for them.

This is described in the bible too, for example the same God ended up in opposite interpretations between Cain and Abel.

One of the major purpose to exclude religious education from public schools is to suppress knowledge like this. That is the flower people's ability to defend themselves.

Only two types of people in the world? You reference one of the two types as those being created by ‘God’. I am assuming that your reference to ‘God’ is to the Christian ‘God(s)’. I think you can understand that such a statement is dismissive of all the other gods and further that such a statement condemning non-Christians as “bad” is exclusive and contains elements of divisiveness.

How do you for certain that, for example, the Hindu gods are the true gods with the Christian gods being subordinate to them?

Hindus godhat

First global victory of the devil was the proud separation of church and state.

The second global victory of the devil is public schools.

Once you don't get the news that there is a Christ, or you reject Him, even if under peer pressure, your life will no longer be anything but running up a down escalator.

What better way to implement universal slavery than making you believe that it is your government that is God. Jesus rejected this in the desert.

But Stalin of the Soviet Union said that "the antichrists are the real enemies of socialism and we believe that we have to fight a real struggle against real enemies".

Boy that Satan sure is kicking gawd's ass. The vast majority of humans who have ever lived (were talking 99%, here) have and had no knowledge of or interest in the iron aged abrahamic fairy tales.

They are actually recompiles Hinduism tales. The source of the information is a single source. And it encloses all religions.

Well that's all total, disprovable nonsense.

Look at the names Abram and Sarah. There was a post somewhere on this forum that presented their Hindu equivalents and they are almost identical.

Yes, we know the Abrahamic religions are plagiaristic. But that Doesn't account for the many direct and clear contradictions not just among them, but among all religions. The unifying principle is NOT god or monotheism. It is the tendency for humans to believe utter nonsense and to ascribe magical attributes and causes where none exist.

You shall be surprised. Hinduism, and pretty much all religions have quickly discovetrd, that what the deception is is not the magic but the physical world. So it is the other way around.

Self delusion is not discovery.

There are two types of people in this world. The ones that are created by good that is God, and the ones that hard created by bad that is the devil. It is always interesting to see how these two arrive at opposite understanding when they look at the same thing. In othercwords, the same thing appears as two opposite observations for them.

This is described in the bible too, for example the same God ended up in opposite interpretations between Cain and Abel.

One of the major purpose to exclude religious education from public schools is to suppress knowledge like this. That is the flower people's ability to defend themselves.

Only two types of people in the world? You reference one of the two types as those being created by ‘God’. I am assuming that your reference to ‘God’ is to the Christian ‘God(s)’. I think you can understand that such a statement is dismissive of all the other gods and further that such a statement condemning non-Christians as “bad” is exclusive and contains elements of divisiveness.

How do you for certain that, for example, the Hindu gods are the true gods with the Christian gods being subordinate to them?

Hindus say that their gods can be understood as various aspects of a single God. In fact the judeochristian hothead is a concept in the bible that is imported from Hinduism. All religions speak of the same god, whether represented as plural or single.

The same way, Satanists represent their ruler as a plurality of demons or a single devil.

So there is only two sources of power the good that is God and the bad that is the devil.

The bible says that only the good that is God creates. But creation can be indirect, for example you can go to a junkyard, pick up a thousand pieces of different cars, then patch them together to make your own car.
God created that too but only indirectly, directly it is your creation. That is how the devil creates people.

That is why there are only two types of people in the world.

You can take it one step further and say that the devil does not imitate genesis and takes the same dust that God took to create Adam when he breathes his evil spirit into it to give it a devil person life.

But this is probably not true on earth because then the devil would not have fathered Cain and Cain would not have feared that other people kill him. Cain would have come independently like the arrival of the watchers.

All religions speak of the same god? That simply is not true.

You’re claims that devils create people? Fascinating.

their gods can be understood as various aspects of a single God. In fact the judeo-christian godhead is a concept in the bible that is imported from Hinduism. All religions speak of the same god, whether represented as plural or single.

The same way, Satanists represent their ruler as a plurality of demons or a single devil.

So there is only two sources of power the good that is God and the bad that is the devil.

The bible says that only the good that is God creates. But creation can be indirect, for example you can go to a junkyard, pick up a thousand pieces of different cars, then patch them together to make your own car.
God created that too but only indirectly, directly it is your creation. That is how the devil creates people.

That is why there are only two types of people in the world.

You can take it one step further and say that the devil does not imitate genesis and takes the same dust that God took to create Adam when he breathes his evil spirit into it to give it a devil person life.

But this is probably not true on earth because then the devil would not have fathered Cain and Cain would not have feared that other people kill him. Cain would have come independently like the arrival of the watchers.

All religions speak of the same god? That simply is not true.

You’re claims that devils create people? Fascinating.

All religions speak of the same godhead when they speak of a God or gods. Do you have a concept of an alternative God? If you do, it can most likely be reconciled with the godhead or with the devil.

The bible reports that the devil creates people. First there is Cain. Then there are the watchers. Then there is Jesus pointing it out directly verbally when he tells a few of those Pharisees in front of Him that their father is the devil. Plus many other references.

You know that a person is created by the devil or that a person is possessed by demons that are created by the devil when you see that even the best intention of that person comes out infinitely evil.

It’s an interesting concept that your gods have competition in the industry of creating people. That would tend to reduce the Omni-everything supernatural powers of your gods.

I have no concept of any gods. To claim that all religions speak of the same godhead is simply not true. Gods of religions other than your gods are quantitatively and qualitatively different. It’s quite obvious that your gods are reinterpretations of earlier gods so perhaps you could tell us of the ‘genesis’ of the Christian gods? They were modeled on the earlier Greek gods, no?

No they are not modeled on Greek gods. Greek gods are models of demons. The Holy Trinity is God not a demon. If you don't believe in a god then by default you believe in the devil. Jesus Christ himself pointed this out as a theological necessity when he said that whoever is not with him is against him. Just a mathematical calculation.

By the way there are a few religions that are deceptive to swap God and the devil. They may do it on purpose like the quran paints God as a reconstituted Jupiter demon or they may do it unintentionally.

 

[Blues Man]

First global victory of the devil was the proud separation of church and state.

The second global victory of the devil is public schools.

Once you don't get the news that there is a Christ, or you reject Him, even if under peer pressure, your life will no longer be anything but running up a down escalator.

What better way to implement universal slavery than making you believe that it is your government that is God. Jesus rejected this in the desert.

But Stalin of the Soviet Union said that "the antichrists are the real enemies of socialism and we believe that we have to fight a real struggle against real enemies".

God made the devil and god is perfect and incapable of making mistakes

On which verses do you base this argument? If all of the above is correct at all times, then it is only your free will that causes the problems.

And that leads to the paradox that your free will does not come from God. The further away you are from God, the bigger problem free will is. You may propose that the devil is a result of your free will. But then God created the devil only in the sense as God created Mona Lisa when Michelangeo painted it.

Alternatively, the perfection of God is a function of the distance away from God. You have to compensate for that distance with your free will. Since public schools invert the free will and give it to the devil, you are not compensating for the distance but making it worse.

Did God create Satan or has he always been? - www.elizabethton.com

Peter teaches us that we should be ever ready to give an answer to all who ask questions concerning the scriptures and life. (1 Peter 3:15). The Bible reveals that God, indeed, created Satan. One thing we learn from the scriptures is that Angels were not from eternity. Nehemiah said, “Thou, even...

www.elizabethton.com

God created Lucifer then cast him down. God is a perfect all powerful being who could have snapped his fingers and wiped Lucifer from the universe but he didn't did he?

He intentionally left Lucifer alive because he likes to torment his creations.

This may be true and leads quickly to a version of the neo Cathar movement.

And also it leads back to the original question of all religions, why is there suffering and how do we stop it.

If God cast the devil down then it means God put a distance between Himself and the devil. And indeed, the longer the distance between God and a sybject, the lesser is God's grace and the greater is suffering. The devil is the fastest point away from God . The devil is infinitely evil and replaces infinite grace with infinite suffering. Furthemore, as the grace of God is a force of attraction the closer you get to god, also the evil of the devil is a force of attraction the closer you get to that, like a black hole that swallows up light.

Buddhists know that suffering is part of life.

and the devil cannot be infinite if he is a creation of a god that is supposed to be infinite.

Good and evil are human constructs and do not exist beyond the that

 

[Blues Man]

Religious squabbles should be taken to the Religion Forum. Plenty of opportunities for anti-religion bigots to vent their insecurity there.

yes we know everyone who disgarees with you is insecure run along

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So if you don't believe that some people were created by God and some others by satan then how do you explain that the first hears the bible and intends good but the second can't hear the bible and intends evil?

I don't have to explain your beliefs. I have no use for them.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Religious squabbles should be taken to the Religion Forum. Plenty of opportunities for anti-religion bigots to vent their insecurity there.

Religions are ideas...they don't have feelings...so wipe that tear away....

 

[jackflash]

Yup.

Facts are facts.



1.Many make the mistake of believing that religion is not allowed to be imparted, imposed, authorized, or even allowed, in public school. There could hardly be a greater misapprehension! Only one religion is strictly forbidden, and punished when observed, and that is the religion of our Founders, the Judeo-Christian faith.
Consulting the Merriam-Webster Dictionary will inform as to the definition of religion, including “a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.”
Most graduates of government school leave with a deep and abiding faith, one that is infused in school. It is a fairly recent version, Militant Secularism.



2. Faith is defined as complete trust or confidence in someone or something, and Faith is the key in understanding what a religion is.
And faith requires no proof or objective explanation. The simple proof that Militant Secularism is such a faith, simply ask any adherent….they will admit that they are if you use the phrase ‘Democrat’ in place of ‘Militant Secularist’…..to explain/defend several of the policies they voted for, and you will quickly ascertain that Democrats vote based on faith.

As questioning ones faith is not encouraged, most Democrats are unaware of their own conversion, and the less perceptive may even deny that they are of the religious cult of Militant Secularism.
Not even certain which of the denominations they belong to: communism, Fascism, Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism or socialism.

[You may try to suddenly ask “have you accepted the nomenklatura as your lord and savior?”]




3. In any case, the old saying, “reality is defined by actions, not by words” applies. Admitting membership or not, they behave as Militant Secularists.
Let’s see where that takes us. To begin, keep in mind that ‘power over others’ is a sacrament of the faith, and this translates to the need to erase the other religion from the public space.


4. “Militant Secularists On The March: Pushing To Dominate A Biden Administration’s Agenda Trump appointees were harassed for their Christian views — now the Left is looking to actively reverse all the religious freedom gains that Trump’s administration fought for.

Now, they are looking forward to the resumption of duties by the same partisans who fought literal nuns all the way to the Supreme Court over a birth control mandate and fought hard to rescind the religious refugee status granted to the Romeike family.

Believing they now have allies in positions of power, the militant secularists are now on the march, demanding a rollback of that emphasis on religious freedom protections."
Militant Secularists On The March: Pushing To Dominate A Biden Administration's Agenda



It hardly seems fair that only their religion deserves the protections of the Constitution, protections that they have worked assiduously to wear away.
But.....'fair' isn't a requirement of Militant Secularism.

The militant secularism religion was taught in both the USSR & nazi Germany. M/S as a religion works great for population over crowding as between 09/01/39 & the end of August 1945 roughly 85 million folks that were here on planet earth were not here on our planet earth.

"Militant secularism don't commit genocide without it!"

 

[Unkotare]

Religious squabbles should be taken to the Religion Forum. Plenty of opportunities for anti-religion bigots to vent their insecurity there.

yes we know everyone who disgarees with you is insecure .....

Not everyone, but YOU sure as hell are. Typical lost atheist, whistling past reality.

 

[Unkotare]

...

Good and evil are human constructs and do not exist beyond the that

There's that 'ol insecurity again.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yup.

Facts are facts.



1.Many make the mistake of believing that religion is not allowed to be imparted, imposed, authorized, or even allowed, in public school. There could hardly be a greater misapprehension! Only one religion is strictly forbidden, and punished when observed, and that is the religion of our Founders, the Judeo-Christian faith.
Consulting the Merriam-Webster Dictionary will inform as to the definition of religion, including “a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.”
Most graduates of government school leave with a deep and abiding faith, one that is infused in school. It is a fairly recent version, Militant Secularism.



2. Faith is defined as complete trust or confidence in someone or something, and Faith is the key in understanding what a religion is.
And faith requires no proof or objective explanation. The simple proof that Militant Secularism is such a faith, simply ask any adherent….they will admit that they are if you use the phrase ‘Democrat’ in place of ‘Militant Secularist’…..to explain/defend several of the policies they voted for, and you will quickly ascertain that Democrats vote based on faith.

As questioning ones faith is not encouraged, most Democrats are unaware of their own conversion, and the less perceptive may even deny that they are of the religious cult of Militant Secularism.
Not even certain which of the denominations they belong to: communism, Fascism, Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism or socialism.

[You may try to suddenly ask “have you accepted the nomenklatura as your lord and savior?”]




3. In any case, the old saying, “reality is defined by actions, not by words” applies. Admitting membership or not, they behave as Militant Secularists.
Let’s see where that takes us. To begin, keep in mind that ‘power over others’ is a sacrament of the faith, and this translates to the need to erase the other religion from the public space.


4. “Militant Secularists On The March: Pushing To Dominate A Biden Administration’s Agenda Trump appointees were harassed for their Christian views — now the Left is looking to actively reverse all the religious freedom gains that Trump’s administration fought for.

Now, they are looking forward to the resumption of duties by the same partisans who fought literal nuns all the way to the Supreme Court over a birth control mandate and fought hard to rescind the religious refugee status granted to the Romeike family.

Believing they now have allies in positions of power, the militant secularists are now on the march, demanding a rollback of that emphasis on religious freedom protections."
Militant Secularists On The March: Pushing To Dominate A Biden Administration's Agenda



It hardly seems fair that only their religion deserves the protections of the Constitution, protections that they have worked assiduously to wear away.
But.....'fair' isn't a requirement of Militant Secularism.

The militant secularism religion was taught in both the USSR & nazi Germany. M/S as a religion works great for population over crowding as between 09/01/39 & the end of August 1945 roughly 85 million folks that were here on planet earth were not here on our planet earth.

"Militant secularism don't commit genocide without it!"

No, nazism and catholicism were close bedfellows. Hitler found willing partners in the catholic church.

 

[Unkotare]

.....
Buddhists know that suffering is part of life.
....

Funny how so many atheists are so fond of pretending to understand Buddhism. The leftist forces of cultural decay in the West have been hammering away at the Judeo-Christian foundation upon which Western culture was built for so long that these lost little lambs have been conditioned to be embarrassed or even hostile toward Christianity in particular. These weak-minded drones feel pressured (the same way an insecure little child succumbs to peer pressure) to reject the culture and beliefs of their own families, and are left with a void they cannot understand. Many respond by grasping for a religious tradition that is 'foreign' enough to western secularists to be acceptable or even 'cool.' Of course they cannot understand said tradition enough to find the level of nourishment they have deprived themselves of, but it is just enough to keep their souls alive (though they could never admit to having one) and to pretend at cocktail parties to be 'spiritual,' but not of course "religious," which would expose them to ridicule among the unforgiving secular clergy.

So yeah, "insecure."

 

[anotherlife]

First global victory of the devil was the proud separation of church and state.

The second global victory of the devil is public schools.

Once you don't get the news that there is a Christ, or you reject Him, even if under peer pressure, your life will no longer be anything but running up a down escalator.

What better way to implement universal slavery than making you believe that it is your government that is God. Jesus rejected this in the desert.

But Stalin of the Soviet Union said that "the antichrists are the real enemies of socialism and we believe that we have to fight a real struggle against real enemies".

God made the devil and god is perfect and incapable of making mistakes

On which verses do you base this argument? If all of the above is correct at all times, then it is only your free will that causes the problems.

And that leads to the paradox that your free will does not come from God. The further away you are from God, the bigger problem free will is. You may propose that the devil is a result of your free will. But then God created the devil only in the sense as God created Mona Lisa when Michelangeo painted it.

Alternatively, the perfection of God is a function of the distance away from God. You have to compensate for that distance with your free will. Since public schools invert the free will and give it to the devil, you are not compensating for the distance but making it worse.

Did God create Satan or has he always been? - www.elizabethton.com

Peter teaches us that we should be ever ready to give an answer to all who ask questions concerning the scriptures and life. (1 Peter 3:15). The Bible reveals that God, indeed, created Satan. One thing we learn from the scriptures is that Angels were not from eternity. Nehemiah said, “Thou, even...

www.elizabethton.com

God created Lucifer then cast him down. God is a perfect all powerful being who could have snapped his fingers and wiped Lucifer from the universe but he didn't did he?

He intentionally left Lucifer alive because he likes to torment his creations.

This may be true and leads quickly to a version of the neo Cathar movement.

And also it leads back to the original question of all religions, why is there suffering and how do we stop it.

If God cast the devil down then it means God put a distance between Himself and the devil. And indeed, the longer the distance between God and a sybject, the lesser is God's grace and the greater is suffering. The devil is the fastest point away from God . The devil is infinitely evil and replaces infinite grace with infinite suffering. Furthemore, as the grace of God is a force of attraction the closer you get to god, also the evil of the devil is a force of attraction the closer you get to that, like a black hole that swallows up light.

Buddhists know that suffering is part of life.

and the devil cannot be infinite if he is a creation of a god that is supposed to be infinite.

Good and evil are human constructs and do not exist beyond the that

We don't know if good and evil exist beyond humanity or not, but there are signs that suggest that they do.

In either case, evil makes us suffer. Suffering may be a part of life, but what secular non religious education brings about is not simply suffering but a slew of many people who invent and inflict suffering on others, because they don't believe in a higher power or because they think evil is fun. Both beliefs are constructs of the devil, derivative of secularism.

And are you saying that the Buddhists believe that the soul is not infinite?

 

[HenryBHough]

Too late.

The religion of Marxism has been taught in public schools since The Department of (mis)Education was established.

 

[Blues Man]

Religious squabbles should be taken to the Religion Forum. Plenty of opportunities for anti-religion bigots to vent their insecurity there.

yes we know everyone who disgarees with you is insecure .....

Not everyone, but YOU sure as hell are. Typical lost atheist, whistling past reality.

believing in invisible magic beings isn't reality and believing that an invisible magical being gives a shit about you is pure delusion

 

[Blues Man]

...

Good and evil are human constructs and do not exist beyond the that

There's that 'ol insecurity again.

no you're the one who needs some magic entity to tell you what's right and wrong I don't.