Religion To Disappear By 2041

[Two Thumbs]

Author and noted biopsychologist Nigel Barber has completed a new study that shows Atheism is most prevalent in developed countries, and, according to his projections, religion will completely disappear by 2041. His findings are discussed in his new book “Why Atheism Will Replace Religion.” A new study that clarifies his earlier research will be published in August. His findings focus on studying trends within countries around the world and the fact that “Atheists are heavily concentrated in economically developed countries”-



In my new study of 137 countries (1), I also found that atheism increases for countries with a well-developed welfare state (as indexed by high taxation rates). Moreover, countries with a more equal distribution of income had more atheists. My study improved on earlier research by taking account of whether a country is mostly Moslem (where atheism is criminalized) or formerly Communist (where religion was suppressed) and accounted for three-quarters of country differences in atheism.



His main thesis stems from the phenomenon of religion declining as personal wealth increases. He cites the reason as people having less of a need for supernatural beliefs when the tangible, natural world is providing for their needs. He says the majority of the world will come to view religion as completely irrelevant by 2041.

In 25 years?

this guys a fucking brilliant super brain.

He learned how to get utter bullshit printed and turn that print into money from fools


and seriously, muslims are never giving that madness up

 

[zaangalewa]

Who is "we" in this context?

If the christian religion dies out - what do you win in this case? What's the logic behind your motivation? Where comes your destructive energy from? And what do you do - or what is our "we" doing - with all this destructive energy after the last Christians are wiped out? Who's next?

When I say we I mean atheists. Scientists. Rational logical people.

Why should all scientists be Atheists and not Christians or Jews or Muslims or Buddhists or Hinduists or ... ? Who or what gives you the right to call people "not we" and "irrational people without logic" only becaue this peopel don't follow such irrational atheistic beliefs like "I don't believe".

Who knows? Maybe human's will treat each other better when we wise up. Religion makes sheep out of us. You think it's good for you/us but actually it is holding us back.

I'm ok with you wanting your delusions and even practicing your silly little traditions. I'm just glad fewer and fewer people are buying it.

Christianity is the best religion out there and even it sucks. But if you want to see the most extreme example of why religion is bad, just look at radical islam. Western religion has gotten more and more liberal along with the secular society it exists in. When free to choose don't be upset if free people choose not to go along.

I have 46 reasons why I don't like religion ...

Again my question: Who's next if you finally killed all Christians? All other human beings while a last Hitter abnd a last Stalin will suicide each other? Do you think god will allow us to lose your war against us?

I don't want to kill anything except a bad idea and or lie.

A lie is a lie no matter how good it makes you feel.

My hope would be for Islam to be the first religion to disappear.

You Christians remind me of the people who believed in Greek gods 2000 years ago. They didn't do bad things for their gods either but they were still ignorant superstitious people.

It is how humans 2000 years from now will look back at people who believe our ancient religions

Actually, most sane adults do not spend a whole lot of their time worrying about what others think about what they do nor about what others do. This is especially true of what some folks might think 2.000 years from now.

I agree


See I don't hate you. I love you too much to let you fall for this guys shit.

First: What has this picture to do with the text? Second: Because homosexuality is not a sin at all how should someone go to to hell because he is homosexual? Question: Who is the pastor who said such a nonsense and what's the name of his church?

 

[Campbell]

When I say we I mean atheists. Scientists. Rational logical people.

Why should all scientists be Atheists and not Christians or Jews or Muslims or Buddhists or Hinduists or ... ? Who or what gives you the right to call people "not we" and "irrational people without logic" only becaue this peopel don't follow such irrational atheistic beliefs like "I don't believe".

Who knows? Maybe human's will treat each other better when we wise up. Religion makes sheep out of us. You think it's good for you/us but actually it is holding us back.

I'm ok with you wanting your delusions and even practicing your silly little traditions. I'm just glad fewer and fewer people are buying it.

Christianity is the best religion out there and even it sucks. But if you want to see the most extreme example of why religion is bad, just look at radical islam. Western religion has gotten more and more liberal along with the secular society it exists in. When free to choose don't be upset if free people choose not to go along.

I have 46 reasons why I don't like religion ...

Again my question: Who's next if you finally killed all Christians? All other human beings while a last Hitter abnd a last Stalin will suicide each other? Do you think god will allow us to lose your war against us?

I don't want to kill anything except a bad idea and or lie.

A lie is a lie no matter how good it makes you feel.

My hope would be for Islam to be the first religion to disappear.

You Christians remind me of the people who believed in Greek gods 2000 years ago. They didn't do bad things for their gods either but they were still ignorant superstitious people.

It is how humans 2000 years from now will look back at people who believe our ancient religions

Actually, most sane adults do not spend a whole lot of their time worrying about what others think about what they do nor about what others do. This is especially true of what some folks might think 2.000 years from now.

I agree


See I don't hate you. I love you too much to let you fall for this guys shit.

Because homosexuality is not a sin at all how should someone go to to hell because he is homosexual? Who is the pastor who said such a nonsense and what's the name of his "church"?

Right Here It Is.....Directly From The Holly Bibble

Leviticus 20:13King James Version (KJV)

13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

 

[Campbell]

Why should all scientists be Atheists and not Christians or Jews or Muslims or Buddhists or Hinduists or ... ? Who or what gives you the right to call people "not we" and "irrational people without logic" only becaue this peopel don't follow such irrational atheistic beliefs like "I don't believe".

Again my question: Who's next if you finally killed all Christians? All other human beings while a last Hitter abnd a last Stalin will suicide each other? Do you think god will allow us to lose your war against us?

I don't want to kill anything except a bad idea and or lie.

A lie is a lie no matter how good it makes you feel.

My hope would be for Islam to be the first religion to disappear.

You Christians remind me of the people who believed in Greek gods 2000 years ago. They didn't do bad things for their gods either but they were still ignorant superstitious people.

It is how humans 2000 years from now will look back at people who believe our ancient religions

Actually, most sane adults do not spend a whole lot of their time worrying about what others think about what they do nor about what others do. This is especially true of what some folks might think 2.000 years from now.

But we do worry about the sanity of our society. Can you imagine over in the middle east there is an atheist and he tells his closest friends he thinks religion is made up, harmful to their society and completely made up and everyone he tells thinks he's the devil and is going to hell and they want to chop his head off?

And excuse me, but here is another example of what bullshit your reply is. You say you don't care what others think or what they do? I call BULLSHIT on that one. For example, I voted for Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Gore, Kerry & Obama. What do they all have in common? They all claim to be Christian. Why do they brag so loudly about being a Christian? Because you fucking Christians won't even consider voting for someone who doesn't share your delusion. You'd rather vote for a pot smoking philanderer than an atheist. So don't tell me you don't think about what others do or think because you most certainly do.

Americans Would Rather Vote For A Philandering, Pot-Smoking President Than An Atheist One

Americans Would Rather Vote For A Philandering, Pot-Smoking President Than An Atheist One

So the day you drop your bad attitude about us, we'll drop our bad attitude about you. I wouldn't care that you believe in God if you didn't care so much I don't. Don't you get that? I wouldn't chop a Muslims head off because they believe in God but they would cut mine off for now. And you say we will burn in hell for all eternity, which is much worse than just chopping off my head. So your God is sicker than Allah!

The difference is that politicians can and do effect us. Your beliefs however, I could care less about. Unless you are someone who's opinions and beliefs have some financial or health effect upon me, I really could care less concerning what disturbs you or makes you happy. Now, were you to consider contributing a few bucks each month toward my financial well being, then I will listen to your wild-ass opinions.

Ok, then lets go with your well being. Gordy Howe got sick. The only thing that could save him was stem cell but back when Bush was president you bible thumpers made it illegal. Fast forward to earlier this year or late last year Gordy got sick and had to fly down to Mexi/Cali to get the treatment. I hope you have Gordy Howe money if you get sick like he did other wise you are going to suffer and die, all because some religious nuts controlled our president for 8 years. He was kissing their ass because they got him elected and that negatively affected a lot of Americans. How many suffered and/or died because of assholes in religion?

Hockey legend Gordie Howe's stem cell treatment is stirring controversy because the company behind the treatments didn't initially reveal some of the stem cells came from an aborted fetus.

Gordie Howe's stem cell source stirs concern

Right On!!! The Iraq war was one of Bush and God's fiascos. Bush said he prayed for weeks before he invaded. Iraq and Saddam Hussein had never done anything to harm the U S.....Saddam's mistake was trying to assassinate George H. W. Bush in Qatar, circa 1993.

This letter to Bill Clinton proves the Republicans never got over it. The 4500 young dead Americans died in vain.

December 18, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President,

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor. The policy of containment of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we
can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq's chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely
that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam's secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons. Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world's supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President,
the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat. Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate.
The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.
We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity
in the UN Security Council. We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitag William J. Bennett
Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky
Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad
William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W.Rodman
Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber
Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

 

[sealybobo]

zaangalewa,

You are bat shit crazy. Spare me your gobblety gook. I means NOTHING to me.

God allows us to not believe he exists.

 

[Campbell]

zaangalewa,

You are bat shit crazy. Spare me your gobblety gook. I means NOTHING to me.

God allows us to not believe he exists.

Does he also allow us to pull the horns off a muley headed cow?

Photo by Marcia Bennett

 

[zaangalewa]

Why should all scientists be Atheists and not Christians or Jews or Muslims or Buddhists or Hinduists or ... ? Who or what gives you the right to call people "not we" and "irrational people without logic" only becaue this peopel don't follow such irrational atheistic beliefs like "I don't believe".

Again my question: Who's next if you finally killed all Christians? All other human beings while a last Hitter abnd a last Stalin will suicide each other? Do you think god will allow us to lose your war against us?

I don't want to kill anything except a bad idea and or lie.

A lie is a lie no matter how good it makes you feel.

My hope would be for Islam to be the first religion to disappear.

You Christians remind me of the people who believed in Greek gods 2000 years ago. They didn't do bad things for their gods either but they were still ignorant superstitious people.

It is how humans 2000 years from now will look back at people who believe our ancient religions

Actually, most sane adults do not spend a whole lot of their time worrying about what others think about what they do nor about what others do. This is especially true of what some folks might think 2.000 years from now.

I agree


See I don't hate you. I love you too much to let you fall for this guys shit.

Because homosexuality is not a sin at all how should someone go to to hell because he is homosexual? Who is the pastor who said such a nonsense and what's the name of his "church"?

Right Here It Is.....Directly From The Holly Bibble

Leviticus 20:13King James Version (KJV)

13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

I hope the catholic church offers religion education in the USA. Try to inform you. I'm not an expert about laws of the bronze age. I general is the theme "sexuality and english speaking world" a horror for every German because your culture is in this theme completly crazy in our eyes. I guess this law has to do with analsex. Analsex is damned dangerorus not only for the people who are doing so. Specially in little populations infections can kill everyone. So analsex - also often called "homosexual behavior" too - is indeed a sin. Every behavior that leads to infections is as far as I know always a sin if someone has the possibility to avoid an infection.

And now again: Homsexuality is not a sin. Who is the pastor? Who said such a nonsense and what's the name of his "church"?

 

[zaangalewa]

zaangalewa,

You are bat shit crazy. Spare me your gobblety gook. I means NOTHING to me.

God allows us to not believe he exists.

Not in your case. You don't search ways to god - you try to destroy ways to god. But even if you would search for god this means not for you that there's a guarantee to find him. We have to offer nothing if we should like to convince someone to believe in god. This is indeed a completly free process. Your way is your way and not the way of anyone else.

 

[zaangalewa]

I don't want to kill anything except a bad idea and or lie.

A lie is a lie no matter how good it makes you feel.

My hope would be for Islam to be the first religion to disappear.

You Christians remind me of the people who believed in Greek gods 2000 years ago. They didn't do bad things for their gods either but they were still ignorant superstitious people.

It is how humans 2000 years from now will look back at people who believe our ancient religions

Actually, most sane adults do not spend a whole lot of their time worrying about what others think about what they do nor about what others do. This is especially true of what some folks might think 2.000 years from now.

But we do worry about the sanity of our society. Can you imagine over in the middle east there is an atheist and he tells his closest friends he thinks religion is made up, harmful to their society and completely made up and everyone he tells thinks he's the devil and is going to hell and they want to chop his head off?

And excuse me, but here is another example of what bullshit your reply is. You say you don't care what others think or what they do? I call BULLSHIT on that one. For example, I voted for Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Gore, Kerry & Obama. What do they all have in common? They all claim to be Christian. Why do they brag so loudly about being a Christian? Because you fucking Christians won't even consider voting for someone who doesn't share your delusion. You'd rather vote for a pot smoking philanderer than an atheist. So don't tell me you don't think about what others do or think because you most certainly do.

Americans Would Rather Vote For A Philandering, Pot-Smoking President Than An Atheist One

Americans Would Rather Vote For A Philandering, Pot-Smoking President Than An Atheist One

So the day you drop your bad attitude about us, we'll drop our bad attitude about you. I wouldn't care that you believe in God if you didn't care so much I don't. Don't you get that? I wouldn't chop a Muslims head off because they believe in God but they would cut mine off for now. And you say we will burn in hell for all eternity, which is much worse than just chopping off my head. So your God is sicker than Allah!

The difference is that politicians can and do effect us. Your beliefs however, I could care less about. Unless you are someone who's opinions and beliefs have some financial or health effect upon me, I really could care less concerning what disturbs you or makes you happy. Now, were you to consider contributing a few bucks each month toward my financial well being, then I will listen to your wild-ass opinions.

Ok, then lets go with your well being. Gordy Howe got sick. The only thing that could save him was stem cell but back when Bush was president you bible thumpers made it illegal. Fast forward to earlier this year or late last year Gordy got sick and had to fly down to Mexi/Cali to get the treatment. I hope you have Gordy Howe money if you get sick like he did other wise you are going to suffer and die, all because some religious nuts controlled our president for 8 years. He was kissing their ass because they got him elected and that negatively affected a lot of Americans. How many suffered and/or died because of assholes in religion?

Hockey legend Gordie Howe's stem cell treatment is stirring controversy because the company behind the treatments didn't initially reveal some of the stem cells came from an aborted fetus.

Gordie Howe's stem cell source stirs concern

Right On!!! The Iraq war was one of Bush and God's fiascos. Bush said he prayed for weeks before he invaded. Iraq

Nearly all big christian churches - an exception was as far as I know only the anglican state church - warned Bush not to use the wrong doctrine "preemptive strike" and to attack the Iraq. I heard not even the bishop of his own church - later he left this church - was able to speak with him any longer, so this bishop - a Methodist if I remember well - sent even messages in TV to Bush. But G.W. Bush did not like to hear. To nearly no Christian in the whole world. Whoever made the decision to invade the Iraq had for sure not the authority of the christian churches to do so. In 2006 the Pope of the holy catholic church gave up the title "Patriarch of the West", so we are not any longer church of the West.

and Saddam Hussein had never done anything to harm the U S.....Saddam's mistake was trying to assassinate George H. W. Bush in Qatar, circa 1993.

This letter to Bill Clinton proves the Republicans never got over it. The 4500 young dead Americans died in vain.

December 18, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President,

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor. The policy of containment of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we
can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq's chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely
that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam's secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons. Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world's supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President,
the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat. Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate.
The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.
We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity
in the UN Security Council. We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitag William J. Bennett
Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky
Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad
William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W.Rodman
Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber
Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

 

[HUGGY]

zaangalewa,

You are bat shit crazy. Spare me your gobblety gook. I means NOTHING to me.

Seems to me you miss something without to know what it is. What about to start to seek and to find out what's fake or not? If you are not ready to prove your own belief - how are you able to damn others for their beliefs?

Because you believe in and cling to stupid ideas. There is no god. There were never dozens of Greek gods and those of the early Romans. The only difference between your stupidity and theirs is that you think saying there is only ONE god makes it more believable. It is not. Make believe is make believe whether you have made up a handful of gods or one. It's nonsense. It has grown to an unbelievably huge scam. Only because religion is protected by law is what keeps you people out of prison for the theft you do on behalf of your churches. If an average person did what you do they would be arrested, convicted of fraud and sent to prison.

You are disgusting leaches on society.

Oh - an answer? .. Astonishing. .. Let's read ... Ah - you sent me your creed. Let me say a word to this creed: Although "god" and "gods" seem to have the same root this two words are describing completly different entities. Take for example a sentence like this "The god of god is god." No no - don't think about - this drives you crazy. Think only about how to say such a sentence about a greek god. Is this possible? Is Posseidon the Posseidon of Posseidon? Or take the most popular modern god: Is money the money of money? What makes really sense?

Oh I see you want to go down THAT dead end. OK I'll start. Who made your god? Who made who made your god.. etc..into infinity?

 

[HUGGY]

zaangalewa,

You are bat shit crazy. Spare me your gobblety gook. I means NOTHING to me.

God allows us to not believe he exists.

Thank god!

 

[HUGGY]

zaangalewa,

You are bat shit crazy. Spare me your gobblety gook. I means NOTHING to me.

God allows us to not believe he exists.

Does he also allow us to pull the horns off a muley headed cow?

Photo by Marcia Bennett

Only one horn. He's trying to reinvent the unicorn.

 

[sealybobo]

zaangalewa,

You are bat shit crazy. Spare me your gobblety gook. I means NOTHING to me.

God allows us to not believe he exists.

Not in your case. You don't search ways to god - you try to destroy ways to god. But even if you would search for god this means not for you that there's a guarantee to find him. We have to offer nothing if we should like to convince someone to believe in god. This is indeed a completly free process. Your way is your way and not the way of anyone else.

I tried, and tried, and tried and tried again, for 45 years. Sorry, no God exists. I used to believe I had a personal relationship with God but then realized I was talking to myself.

 

[sealybobo]

Actually, most sane adults do not spend a whole lot of their time worrying about what others think about what they do nor about what others do. This is especially true of what some folks might think 2.000 years from now.

But we do worry about the sanity of our society. Can you imagine over in the middle east there is an atheist and he tells his closest friends he thinks religion is made up, harmful to their society and completely made up and everyone he tells thinks he's the devil and is going to hell and they want to chop his head off?

And excuse me, but here is another example of what bullshit your reply is. You say you don't care what others think or what they do? I call BULLSHIT on that one. For example, I voted for Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Gore, Kerry & Obama. What do they all have in common? They all claim to be Christian. Why do they brag so loudly about being a Christian? Because you fucking Christians won't even consider voting for someone who doesn't share your delusion. You'd rather vote for a pot smoking philanderer than an atheist. So don't tell me you don't think about what others do or think because you most certainly do.

Americans Would Rather Vote For A Philandering, Pot-Smoking President Than An Atheist One

Americans Would Rather Vote For A Philandering, Pot-Smoking President Than An Atheist One

So the day you drop your bad attitude about us, we'll drop our bad attitude about you. I wouldn't care that you believe in God if you didn't care so much I don't. Don't you get that? I wouldn't chop a Muslims head off because they believe in God but they would cut mine off for now. And you say we will burn in hell for all eternity, which is much worse than just chopping off my head. So your God is sicker than Allah!

The difference is that politicians can and do effect us. Your beliefs however, I could care less about. Unless you are someone who's opinions and beliefs have some financial or health effect upon me, I really could care less concerning what disturbs you or makes you happy. Now, were you to consider contributing a few bucks each month toward my financial well being, then I will listen to your wild-ass opinions.

Ok, then lets go with your well being. Gordy Howe got sick. The only thing that could save him was stem cell but back when Bush was president you bible thumpers made it illegal. Fast forward to earlier this year or late last year Gordy got sick and had to fly down to Mexi/Cali to get the treatment. I hope you have Gordy Howe money if you get sick like he did other wise you are going to suffer and die, all because some religious nuts controlled our president for 8 years. He was kissing their ass because they got him elected and that negatively affected a lot of Americans. How many suffered and/or died because of assholes in religion?

Hockey legend Gordie Howe's stem cell treatment is stirring controversy because the company behind the treatments didn't initially reveal some of the stem cells came from an aborted fetus.

Gordie Howe's stem cell source stirs concern

Right On!!! The Iraq war was one of Bush and God's fiascos. Bush said he prayed for weeks before he invaded. Iraq

Nearly all big christian churches - an exception was as far as I know only the anglican state church - warned Bush not to use the wrong doctrine "preemptive strike" and to attack the Iraq. I heard not even the bishop of his own church - later he left this church - was able to speak with him any longer, so this bishop - a Methodist if I remember well - sent even messages in TV to Bush. But G.W. Bush did not like to hear. To nearly no Christian in the whole world. Whoever made the decision to invade the Iraq had for sure not the authority of the christian churches to do so. In 2006 the Pope of the holy catholic church gave up the title "Patriarch of the West", so we are not any longer church of the West.

and Saddam Hussein had never done anything to harm the U S.....Saddam's mistake was trying to assassinate George H. W. Bush in Qatar, circa 1993.

This letter to Bill Clinton proves the Republicans never got over it. The 4500 young dead Americans died in vain.

December 18, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President,

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor. The policy of containment of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we
can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq's chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely
that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam's secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons. Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world's supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President,
the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat. Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate.
The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.
We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity
in the UN Security Council. We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitag William J. Bennett
Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky
Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad
William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W.Rodman
Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber
Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

It was the Christian church who re-elected Bush in 2004.

 

[zaangalewa]

zaangalewa,

You are bat shit crazy. Spare me your gobblety gook. I means NOTHING to me.

Seems to me you miss something without to know what it is. What about to start to seek and to find out what's fake or not? If you are not ready to prove your own belief - how are you able to damn others for their beliefs?

Because you believe in and cling to stupid ideas. There is no god. There were never dozens of Greek gods and those of the early Romans. The only difference between your stupidity and theirs is that you think saying there is only ONE god makes it more believable. It is not. Make believe is make believe whether you have made up a handful of gods or one. It's nonsense. It has grown to an unbelievably huge scam. Only because religion is protected by law is what keeps you people out of prison for the theft you do on behalf of your churches. If an average person did what you do they would be arrested, convicted of fraud and sent to prison.

You are disgusting leaches on society.

Oh - an answer? .. Astonishing. .. Let's read ... Ah - you sent me your creed. Let me say a word to this creed: Although "god" and "gods" seem to have the same root this two words are describing completly different entities. Take for example a sentence like this "The god of god is god." No no - don't think about - this drives you crazy. Think only about how to say such a sentence about a greek god. Is this possible? Is Posseidon the Posseidon of Posseidon? Or take the most popular modern god: Is money the money of money? What makes really sense?

Oh I see you want to go down THAT dead end. OK I'll start. Who made your god? Who made who made your god.. etc..into infinity?

No one. God created the world. Before the world existed existed nothing. So your question is interesting - nevertheless senseless - because there was no time before the time started to exist. That's what we think since about 1600 years. But we were 400 years before the philosopher Augustinus gave such an answer also Christians. Before we were only stupid Christians - afterwards we were stupid Christians with an intellligent answer. But because this answer was not satisfying we made the renaissance and created new natural sciences. ´Then we waited for results. Now we still wait - sometimes I think we are the most patient religion of the world - for the results of the phycicists. But still looks like they have problems to find out what kind of nothing was before the universe existed. It's not difficult to say nothing about nothing - but it's extremly difficult to say something in a qualified way about. A short time ago a so called "theory of branes" was an interesting candidate to find new solutions - but unfortunatelly another success - the real existance of gravitation waves - seems to destroy this theory - so it looks like as if nothing was before the universe was created ...

 

[zaangalewa]

zaangalewa,

You are bat shit crazy. Spare me your gobblety gook. I means NOTHING to me.

God allows us to not believe he exists.

Not in your case. You don't search ways to god - you try to destroy ways to god. But even if you would search for god this means not for you that there's a guarantee to find him. We have to offer nothing if we should like to convince someone to believe in god. This is indeed a completly free process. Your way is your way and not the way of anyone else.

I tried, and tried, and tried and tried again, for 45 years. Sorry, no God exists. I used to believe I had a personal relationship with God but then realized I was talking to myself.

I'm sure there is a reason for.

 

[zaangalewa]

But we do worry about the sanity of our society. Can you imagine over in the middle east there is an atheist and he tells his closest friends he thinks religion is made up, harmful to their society and completely made up and everyone he tells thinks he's the devil and is going to hell and they want to chop his head off?

And excuse me, but here is another example of what bullshit your reply is. You say you don't care what others think or what they do? I call BULLSHIT on that one. For example, I voted for Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Gore, Kerry & Obama. What do they all have in common? They all claim to be Christian. Why do they brag so loudly about being a Christian? Because you fucking Christians won't even consider voting for someone who doesn't share your delusion. You'd rather vote for a pot smoking philanderer than an atheist. So don't tell me you don't think about what others do or think because you most certainly do.

Americans Would Rather Vote For A Philandering, Pot-Smoking President Than An Atheist One

Americans Would Rather Vote For A Philandering, Pot-Smoking President Than An Atheist One

So the day you drop your bad attitude about us, we'll drop our bad attitude about you. I wouldn't care that you believe in God if you didn't care so much I don't. Don't you get that? I wouldn't chop a Muslims head off because they believe in God but they would cut mine off for now. And you say we will burn in hell for all eternity, which is much worse than just chopping off my head. So your God is sicker than Allah!

The difference is that politicians can and do effect us. Your beliefs however, I could care less about. Unless you are someone who's opinions and beliefs have some financial or health effect upon me, I really could care less concerning what disturbs you or makes you happy. Now, were you to consider contributing a few bucks each month toward my financial well being, then I will listen to your wild-ass opinions.

Ok, then lets go with your well being. Gordy Howe got sick. The only thing that could save him was stem cell but back when Bush was president you bible thumpers made it illegal. Fast forward to earlier this year or late last year Gordy got sick and had to fly down to Mexi/Cali to get the treatment. I hope you have Gordy Howe money if you get sick like he did other wise you are going to suffer and die, all because some religious nuts controlled our president for 8 years. He was kissing their ass because they got him elected and that negatively affected a lot of Americans. How many suffered and/or died because of assholes in religion?

Hockey legend Gordie Howe's stem cell treatment is stirring controversy because the company behind the treatments didn't initially reveal some of the stem cells came from an aborted fetus.

Gordie Howe's stem cell source stirs concern

Right On!!! The Iraq war was one of Bush and God's fiascos. Bush said he prayed for weeks before he invaded. Iraq

Nearly all big christian churches - an exception was as far as I know only the anglican state church - warned Bush not to use the wrong doctrine "preemptive strike" and to attack the Iraq. I heard not even the bishop of his own church - later he left this church - was able to speak with him any longer, so this bishop - a Methodist if I remember well - sent even messages in TV to Bush. But G.W. Bush did not like to hear. To nearly no Christian in the whole world. Whoever made the decision to invade the Iraq had for sure not the authority of the christian churches to do so. In 2006 the Pope of the holy catholic church gave up the title "Patriarch of the West", so we are not any longer church of the West.

and Saddam Hussein had never done anything to harm the U S.....Saddam's mistake was trying to assassinate George H. W. Bush in Qatar, circa 1993.

This letter to Bill Clinton proves the Republicans never got over it. The 4500 young dead Americans died in vain.

December 18, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President,

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor. The policy of containment of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we
can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq's chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely
that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam's secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons. Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world's supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President,
the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat. Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate.
The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.
We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity
in the UN Security Council. We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitag William J. Bennett
Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky
Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad
William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W.Rodman
Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber
Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

It was the Christian church who re-elected Bush in 2004.

As far as I remember G.W. Bush decided to be a so called "Born again Christian" and as far as I know "Born again Chistians" are not members of any christian church. The people of the USA legitimized his politics in 2004. He was president of the USA - not a representative of a christian church.

 

[Meriweather]

I tried, and tried, and tried and tried again, for 45 years. Sorry, no God exists. I used to believe I had a personal relationship with God but then realized I was talking to myself.

For forty-five years we could try to turn on the water by flipping a light switch, yet no water will appear. God is and does exist. A lot of the trouble is we have expectations that God should appear, and be where, it is most logical to us--whether our logic is based in reality or more of the wishful thinking kind. Just because God is not where we expect Him to be does not rule out His existence. It just rules out He's not where we expected; does not act as we expect.

 

[Campbell]

Actually, most sane adults do not spend a whole lot of their time worrying about what others think about what they do nor about what others do. This is especially true of what some folks might think 2.000 years from now.

But we do worry about the sanity of our society. Can you imagine over in the middle east there is an atheist and he tells his closest friends he thinks religion is made up, harmful to their society and completely made up and everyone he tells thinks he's the devil and is going to hell and they want to chop his head off?

And excuse me, but here is another example of what bullshit your reply is. You say you don't care what others think or what they do? I call BULLSHIT on that one. For example, I voted for Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Gore, Kerry & Obama. What do they all have in common? They all claim to be Christian. Why do they brag so loudly about being a Christian? Because you fucking Christians won't even consider voting for someone who doesn't share your delusion. You'd rather vote for a pot smoking philanderer than an atheist. So don't tell me you don't think about what others do or think because you most certainly do.

Americans Would Rather Vote For A Philandering, Pot-Smoking President Than An Atheist One

Americans Would Rather Vote For A Philandering, Pot-Smoking President Than An Atheist One

So the day you drop your bad attitude about us, we'll drop our bad attitude about you. I wouldn't care that you believe in God if you didn't care so much I don't. Don't you get that? I wouldn't chop a Muslims head off because they believe in God but they would cut mine off for now. And you say we will burn in hell for all eternity, which is much worse than just chopping off my head. So your God is sicker than Allah!

The difference is that politicians can and do effect us. Your beliefs however, I could care less about. Unless you are someone who's opinions and beliefs have some financial or health effect upon me, I really could care less concerning what disturbs you or makes you happy. Now, were you to consider contributing a few bucks each month toward my financial well being, then I will listen to your wild-ass opinions.

Ok, then lets go with your well being. Gordy Howe got sick. The only thing that could save him was stem cell but back when Bush was president you bible thumpers made it illegal. Fast forward to earlier this year or late last year Gordy got sick and had to fly down to Mexi/Cali to get the treatment. I hope you have Gordy Howe money if you get sick like he did other wise you are going to suffer and die, all because some religious nuts controlled our president for 8 years. He was kissing their ass because they got him elected and that negatively affected a lot of Americans. How many suffered and/or died because of assholes in religion?

Hockey legend Gordie Howe's stem cell treatment is stirring controversy because the company behind the treatments didn't initially reveal some of the stem cells came from an aborted fetus.

Gordie Howe's stem cell source stirs concern

Right On!!! The Iraq war was one of Bush and God's fiascos. Bush said he prayed for weeks before he invaded. Iraq

Nearly all big christian churches - an exception was as far as I know only the anglican state church - warned Bush not to use the wrong doctrine "preemptive strike" and to attack the Iraq. I heard not even the bishop of his own church - later he left this church - was able to speak with him any longer, so this bishop - a Methodist if I remember well - sent even messages in TV to Bush. But G.W. Bush did not like to hear. To nearly no Christian in the whole world. Whoever made the decision to invade the Iraq had for sure not the authority of the christian churches to do so. In 2006 the Pope of the holy catholic church gave up the title "Patriarch of the West", so we are not any longer church of the West.

and Saddam Hussein had never done anything to harm the U S.....Saddam's mistake was trying to assassinate George H. W. Bush in Qatar, circa 1993.

This letter to Bill Clinton proves the Republicans never got over it. The 4500 young dead Americans died in vain.

December 18, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President,

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor. The policy of containment of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we
can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq's chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely
that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam's secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons. Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world's supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President,
the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat. Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate.
The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.
We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity
in the UN Security Council. We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitag William J. Bennett
Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky
Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad
William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W.Rodman
Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber
Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

zaangalewa,

You are bat shit crazy. Spare me your gobblety gook. I means NOTHING to me.

God allows us to not believe he exists.

Not in your case. You don't search ways to god - you try to destroy ways to god. But even if you would search for god this means not for you that there's a guarantee to find him. We have to offer nothing if we should like to convince someone to believe in god. This is indeed a completly free process. Your way is your way and not the way of anyone else.

I tried, and tried, and tried and tried again, for 45 years. Sorry, no God exists. I used to believe I had a personal relationship with God but then realized I was talking to myself.

Religion is and has always been a thing for the preachers. It's how they make a living. Good Thing.....most of them would starve to death if they had to work for a living.

 

[the_human_being]

Well let's see. We've gone back in the past to the Clinton and Bush eras and then journeyed 2,000 years into the future worrying about what folks not even born yet will think about us. We have attacked God and religion and championed the homosexual freaks. We certainly have a lot to worry our little minds about. All we need now to do is to vote for Hillary Clinton and we will have totally confirmed on USMB that we are all insane.