Really............

[Cold Fusion38]

So tell me why you Republicans keep calling for REAGAN conservatism? HE TRIPLED the national debt during his eight years....HOW IS THAT CONSERVATIVE?

 

[007]

Really...

You want to talk shit without first backing up a single thing you're saying?

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Pale if you don't beleive that Regan trippled the national debt I am not going to even TRY to prove it because you would simply stomp your feet and deny the truth.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

And just WHEN did double dealing drugs for guns become conservative? Iran/Contra if you need the proof.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

If you need help I suggest "Debt to the Penny" Go check it out and explain EXACTLEY what Regan conservatism means.

 

[garyd]

Presidents don't do crap to the Debt Congresses do. And Reagans was Democratic.

 

[007]

Pale if you don't beleive that Regan trippled the national debt I am not going to even TRY to prove it because you would simply stomp your feet and deny the truth.

Post a link to some numbers that back up your claim then... simple as that.

Prove it happened, and then prove Reagan did it.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

Debt to the penny deal with it.

And YES the Pres DOES control spending by REFUSING to sign the budget into law. The one neat thing was that Regan would NEVER fund the bridge to nowhere.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

So tell me why you Republicans keep calling for REAGAN conservatism? HE TRIPLED the national debt during his eight years....HOW IS THAT CONSERVATIVE?

So you are using this excuse for Obama to do the same thing? This is the Democrat plan?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

Debt to the penny deal with it.

And YES the Pres DOES control spending by REFUSING to sign the budget into law. The one neat thing was that Regan would NEVER fund the bridge to nowhere.

So Obama's 1.7 trillion dollar deficit in his budget...he should have refused to sign it? Is this what you are saying?

 

[Cold Fusion38]

GNP, Budget Deficits and Relative Change
In billions of dollars except percents
Fiscal Year GNP Deficit %GNP Debt %GNP % Change
1982 3130 127.9 4.1 1147.0 36.6
1983 3325 207.8 6.2 1381.9 41.6 5.0
1984 3688 185.3 5.0 1576.7 42.8 1.2
1985 3958 212.3 5.4 1827.5 46.2 3.4
1986 4177 220.7 5.3 2129.5 51.0 4.8
1987 4442 148.0 3.4 2354.3 53.0 2.0
1988 4771 155.1 3.2 2614.6 54.8 1.8
1989 5201 152.0 2.9 2881.1 55.4 0.6
Source: American Almanac, United States Budgets, et al.

As can be seen, the deficit spiked early, then declined sharply in the second term of Reagan's presidency. Our debt increased by about 18.8% (GDP) and 51% relative to the previous level (18.8 being about half of 36.6), a far cry from the doubling, tripling, or quadrupling that some claim.

You can tell whether there is a Republican or Democrat in the White House by how the mainstream media references the debt. For Republicans, they focus on the dollar amounts, claiming they are "records". With Democrats, they actually use the more accurate % of GDP figures. It's all about an agenda with the mainstream media.

A note about measuring government spending. A fiscal year runs from October-September. The 1982 fiscal year, for example runs from October, 1981 to September, 1982. This can make tables like the above appear a bit confusing at first. The 1982 fiscal year is Reagan's first budget year, so we use the fiscal years 1982-9 to demonstrate how deficits and debt changed during his terms in office. Using fiscal year 1981 would not make sense as it acutally began in 1980, before he was elected, and ran through the first nine months of his first term—before his economic policies were approved by Congress.




From 1187 to 2881 is pretty damn close to Trippling the debt. So I rounded up but not by very much.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

the fact is you posted a mistruth.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

What the fuck do you care Patek you don't even LIVE here so why no shut your trap. GWB left one of the most fucked up economies the world has ever known. Hey tell me wasn't Reagenomics supposed to MKE JOBS by giving the ULTRA WEALTHY tax breaks so the would make jobs? Too bad all those jobs were made in other countries.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

the fact is you posted a mistruth.

No I rounded up not quite as badley as "we will be greeted as liberators" or "oil revenue will pay for the war"

 

[Cold Fusion38]

But don't trouble yourself by trying to dispute the numbers or the fact that giving the ULTRA WEALTHY tax breaks does NOT create JOBS it sends them OVER SEAS!!!!

 

[PatekPhilippe]

What the fuck do you care Patek you don't even LIVE here so why no shut your trap. GWB left one of the most fucked up economies the world has ever known. Hey tell me wasn't Reagenomics supposed to MKE JOBS by giving the ULTRA WEALTHY tax breaks so the would make jobs? Too bad all those jobs were made in other countries.

au contraire my left wing loon buddy.......

but I see where this is going....another President Bush Whine Fest!!!!

 

[PatekPhilippe]

But don't trouble yourself by trying to dispute the numbers or the fact that giving the ULTRA WEALTHY tax breaks does NOT create JOBS it sends them OVER SEAS!!!!

Take your pick....

 

[Dr Grump]

another President Bush Whine Fest!!!!

Shall we count up the number of Obama whinefests vs Bush whinefests..

Who do you think will come out on top...