Real wages for hourly workers are up nearly 2% in the first five months of Trump’s second term

[sealybobo]

Democrats aren't trying to win votes from me or mine, because they are completely hostile to me and mine, so they CAN'T bring themselves to do ANYTHING, that would appeal to me or mine.






In the 90s, the gop was still in the grip of the FREE TRADERS.

Patrick Buchanan was out there trying to fight them, but your legacy media called him racist and the normies bought it.

So, we didn't start fixing it then.

I supported Buchanan, but he lost.




No, it was BILL CLINTON that SIGNED nafta. It was republcians who WROTE IT.

So, at that time, both parties were supporting GLOBALIZATION.

So, voters, such as myself had to make their choices based on other issues.

And then as now, the gop was at least not hating me with the fiery passion that the hard left does.






This is weird. you are angry today, and supporting globalization TODAY, because you think that blue collar workers voted republican back in the 90s?





Errr, even if we did support globalization, which we didn't, that would make us WRONG on a matter of economic policy,

not "deplorable".

You are now not making any sense.

Tell me more about how you think we are "deplorable"?




Actually, I bet that perception in your mind is a creation of your own media and the way they report, especially in your bubble.



I wonder if the context of that question was something like, NUCLEAR WEAPONS, and NUCLEAR EXCHANGE IN THE MIDDLE EAST, or even NEW DARK AGE?

You really don't mind looking utterly retarded.


Very strange.

I look retarded? Mark Twain said once "be careful when you argue with a fool, passerbys won't know who's who"

I look retarded. Over a year ago you said give Trump 2 years. Which would be after the midterms by the way. No way. You got to the midterms. Anyways, after Trump slapped tariffs on everything prices went up. Your wages didn't go up. Not to make up for Trumpflation. So already you were worse off than when Biden was president. Okay but you feel like something revolutionary is taking place. It's not but okay. Then Trump totally stabs you in the back and shows you what a hypocritical liar he is by starting a new war in Iran. You admit it. That drives up prices even more. And as things get worse and worse you tell me I'm stupid and to give you and Trump more time huh?

 

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... Over a year ago you said give Trump 2 years. Which would be after the midterms by the way. No way. You got to the midterms.

The obvious implication is that I wanted the midterms to be about the results of Trump's policies, not judge him AFTER the midterms.

Really. you should have been able to figure that one out, without having to be told.

Indeed, I am fairly certainly that I regularly was very clear about that, in discussions WITH YOU.

Anyways, after Trump slapped tariffs on everything prices went up. Your wages didn't go up. Not to make up for Trumpflation. So already you were worse off than when Biden was president.

tariffs make AMERICAN manufacturing more competitive with nations that pay shit wages, or even use slaves.

Of course wages don't IMMEDIATELY rise in response to that.

You know better than to think that it would. That was you AGAIN, being a reatard, so that you could attack Trump on a pretend issue.

Tariffs do raise prices. That is a valid issue. But that was not enough for you. you had to invent shit.

You are AFRAID that it will work. You are trying to gin up anti-Trump hysteria, so that even if the policies work, and we have good numbers by the mid terms,

that the dems will still win, and your side can then sabotage the rest of his term and prevent him and maga from building on that, and thus return to the status quo, of ******* over American workers and citizens.

Okay but you feel like something revolutionary is taking place. It's not but okay. Then Trump totally stabs you in the back and shows you what a hypocritical liar he is by starting a new war in Iran. You admit it.

Buddy. Anyone that thought that MAGA was pacifistic, was a fool.

I don't want wars, especially ENDLESS wars, but I am willing to trust Trump that Iran was on the verge of something and needed stopped.

I don't want a nuclear armed Iran.

And the rise in prices from that, is from Iran blocking hte straits, which is on THEM.

That drives up prices even more. And as things get worse and worse you tell me I'm stupid and to give you and Trump more time huh?

Hey, remember when you guys were saying that a recession was going to hit, like that week? And then when it didn't you attacked Trump because the economic growth wasn't good enough.

You people are shit talkers. You talk shit.

 

[sealybobo]

The obvious implication is that I wanted the midterms to be about the results of Trump's policies, not judge him AFTER the midterms.

Really. you should have been able to figure that one out, without having to be told.

Indeed, I am fairly certainly that I regularly was very clear about that, in discussions WITH YOU.




tariffs make AMERICAN manufacturing more competitive with nations that pay shit wages, or even use slaves.

Of course wages don't IMMEDIATELY rise in response to that.

You know better than to think that it would. That was you AGAIN, being a reatard, so that you could attack Trump on a pretend issue.

Tariffs do raise prices. That is a valid issue. But that was not enough for you. you had to invent shit.

You are AFRAID that it will work. You are trying to gin up anti-Trump hysteria, so that even if the policies work, and we have good numbers by the mid terms,

that the dems will still win, and your side can then sabotage the rest of his term and prevent him and maga from building on that, and thus return to the status quo, of ******* over American workers and citizens.




Buddy. Anyone that thought that MAGA was pacifistic, was a fool.

I don't want wars, especially ENDLESS wars, but I am willing to trust Trump that Iran was on the verge of something and needed stopped.

I don't want a nuclear armed Iran.

And the rise in prices from that, is from Iran blocking hte straits, which is on THEM.




Hey, remember when you guys were saying that a recession was going to hit, like that week? And then when it didn't you attacked Trump because the economic growth wasn't good enough.

You people are shit talkers. You talk shit.

That's why you're dumb. You still trust Trump. And Trump counted on people to stupidly believe he would be different. Now you are saying "anyone who thought maga was pacificistic?"??? Yea, no new wars. Remember? Not because you are pussies but America first. And stop wasting our money on that bullshit. So yea, a lot of you believed Trump would be different. You included.

“First of all, I didn’t guarantee no war.” Later, he said, “So when you say I promised – I didn’t promise anything. I don’t like these endless wars. This is not an endless war.”

In fact, Trump repeatedly promised in 2024 that the US would not have any wars during his second presidency. Though it’s true that he often deployed some nuance on the subject – for example, vowing to end “endless” wars or prevent “World War III” – he unequivocally pledged on other occasions that the US wouldn’t get involved in wars, period.

In a June 2024 social media post, Trump described the election as “a choice between STRENGTH or WEAKNESS, COMPETENCE or INCOMPETENCE, peace and prosperity or war and no war.” Then, in one of the highest-profile speeches of the campaign, his July 2024 address to the Republican National Convention, he said, “With our victory in November, the years of war, weakness, and chaos will be over. I don’t have wars.”

He made the promise even more directly during an August 2024 rally speech in the swing state of Pennsylvania, saying: “Under Trump, we will have no more wars, no more disruptions, and we will have prosperity and peace for all.”

Trump reprised the pledge in an August 2024 interview with Adin Ross, an online personality popular with young men. After saying there were no wars during his first administration, he promised, “And we won’t have wars again.” (Expressing concern about the final months of the Biden administration, he added, “But we could have a war before we even get there. That’s the problem.”)

At a rally that month in another hotly contested state, North Carolina, Trump approvingly cited Viktor Orbán, then the prime minister of Hungary, as supposedly having said, “Make sure that Trump gets re-elected president and you’re not going to have any more wars.” The audience applauded; Trump himself reiterated moments later, “No more wars. No more disruptions. We will have prosperity and we will have peace.”

And now you idiots are saying "the last 5 presidents should have done this" just like you defended Bush's bone headed idea to take out Saddam. "only Trump had the balls to do it". No. The other presidents had the brains not to do it. And if they did it then they would have had a better plan not like Bush or Pete Hegseth.