Read 'em and weep: President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill approaches final vote

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After much contention among the Republicans and some late night wrangling by House Speaker Johnson and President Trump, the Big Beautiful Bill is now approaching the finish line. The bill advanced by a vote of 219-213 and still not a single Democrat was willing to negotiate.

House nearing final vote on Trump's "big, beautiful bill"​


"Washington — The House voted 219-213 overnight Wednesday, after hours of delay, to advance President Trump's "big, beautiful bill" for debate before a final vote. GOP leaders had to overcome pushback over changes the Senate made to the legislation.

That final vote is expected soon.

The key procedural vote began at about 9:30 p.m. Wednesday and wrapped up at about 3:20 a.m. as GOP holdouts were pressured to vote "yes."

The debate following that vote lasted roughly an hour, after which House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries was addressing the chamber. Speaker Mike Johnson is expected to do the same, followed by the final vote.

Before the critical procedural vote was finalized, Johnson told reporters Mr. Trump was "directly engaged, as he always is, and that was very important. Members wanted to hear certain assurances from him about what's ahead, what the future will entail, and what we're going to do next, and all of that. And he was very, very helpful in that process."

House nearing final vote on Trump's "big, beautiful bill"
 
I am not for this bill solely due to the spending, but I am not against the benefits it provides.

I just wish that someday soon we will have enough of a spine to address out-of-control spending. It's becoming increasingly alarming, and it's killing the bond market.
 
Will the petulant Democrats give back all the benefits they receive from the bill like an increase in the SALT cap?
JGalt come on, Democrats need to step up and take a stand against this bill. Dems everywhere need to refuse all benefits of this bill in protest.

I'm guessing Dems will rush to the trough to gobble up all they can, while simultaneously bitching and bemoaning the very bill they are porking out on.
 
I am not for this bill solely due to the spending, but I am not against the benefits it provides.

I just wish that someday soon we will have enough of a spine to address out-of-control spending. It's becoming increasingly alarming, and it's killing the bond market.
Trump has offered the hold outs to work with them on a 2nd reconciliation bill later to address spending cuts.
 
Prediction: I think there's a 55% chance a few grandstanding GOP idiots will kill this bill. Reports are this bill is teetering on a razor edge and if it goes down it will never recover. It will be dead and Dems will get the biggest tax increase ever on Americans.
There's a reason the GOP is known for snatching defeat from victory, and the word RINO exists.
 
I am not for this bill solely due to the spending, but I am not against the benefits it provides.

I just wish that someday soon we will have enough of a spine to address out-of-control spending. It's becoming increasingly alarming, and it's killing the bond market.

Bear in mind that a deliberate weakening of the dollar value automatically reduces debt by the same percentage figure in a re-set scenario .
That is , if the dollar value falls 40% beforehand , the total debt reduces by the same amount .
This is what I believe Trumpfy and his fellow Jewish International backers are engineeering .
The new Value standard to be Gold of which the US has huge reserves -- aassuming the truth is being told .

Which likely explains why central banks everywhere have been buying gold so intensely .
But with the US $ gone , how will the US fare with no Petro Dollar money flow / income ?

Would that be a coup for Deep State with the US firmly put in place by a BRICS Plus group effectively ruling matters ?
It would end Trumpfy's western career forever , if that is the plot .

But in the real world all that would happen is that the BRICS Plus team would mop up funds that the US previously had a monopoly over .
And Trumpfy would simply " swap" his allegiances .

If you are Deep State Elite, it matters nothing whether you hold your strength through the US giving it to you , or any other combination of different nations -- say China and Russia , for obvious example .
You always win if you back both outcomes and a fall in popularity is a small price to pay for a psychopath .
 
IF the bill passes, then I'll return to rub salt in the Dem's wounds because I want them to suffer humiliation.
I'll supply the salt:

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Traditional Bulk Salt 1 Ton Super Sack​


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Or a spine.

True that. It's hard to have a set of balls if you're constantly having to prove to the left that you're not really a racist/bigot/misogynist/homphobe/fascist/nazi/whatever. Trump is insulated from all that BS because he's a wealthy, successful businessman and can't be bought off like the public servants and bureaucrats. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain.
 
True that. It's hard to have a set of balls if you're constantly having to prove to the left that you're not really a racist/bigot/misogynist/homphobe/fascist/nazi/whatever. Trump is insulated from all that BS because he's a wealthy, successful businessman and can't be bought off like the public servants and bureaucrats. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain.
OR you are only in Washington to grandstand and suck up to the fake news.
 
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