Raped, Tortured, Forced To Watch Beheadings, Then Beaten When They Tried To Kill Themselves: Yazidi

[Sally]

What these girls had to go through!!! Unbelievable!!!

Raped, tortured, forced to watch beheadings, then beaten when they tried to kill themselves: Yazidi girls reveal the hell they endured during ISIS captivity

• Two teenage Yazidi girls have described the horror of being capture by Isis
• Aged just 15 and 19, they saw men from their community mercilessly killed
• Both were taken away to be sold on to men in the Iraqi city of Mosul
• Hundreds of other Yazidi females suffered a similarly traumatic fate
• The girls said some considered suicide rather than enduring their ordeal

By TED THORNHILL FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 05:59 EST, 1 October 2014 | UPDATED: 13:06 EST, 1 October 2014


Two Yazidi teenagers who escaped the clutches of Isis have revealed the full horror of their capture and captivity.

They have described being tortured and forced to watch videos of men from their community being beheaded.

Some, they said, were so traumatised by their experiences that they tried to commit suicide. However, those that tried to kill themselves were severely beaten by Isis fighters.

Read more:

Yazidi girls reveal the hell they endured and witnessed during ISIS captivity Daily Mail Online

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I also read they were able to give directions back to an encampment.

I hope they wipe the monsters out.

 

[Sally]

I also read they were able to give directions back to an encampment.

I hope they wipe the monsters out.

I hope so too, Luddly. ISIS members are truly monsters. As an aside, I was reading something about the head ISIS guy's father who is involved in Muslim schools and mosques in the Boston area. It happened to mention that one of the mosques' imams radicalized the head of ISIS.

 

[Yarddog]

I also read they were able to give directions back to an encampment.

I hope they wipe the monsters out.

Agreed, If they can do that , what other horrific things will they do in the future? they would never stop unless they are stopped. Idealy it would be done
by the surrounding countries but i think none over there have the ability or will at this point.

 

[Sunni Man]

As an aside, I was reading something about the head ISIS guy's father who is involved in Muslim schools and mosques in the Boston area. It happened to mention that one of the mosques' imams radicalized the head of ISIS.

Which mosque? ....... What is his name?

Or did you just make that up?? ....

 

[Roudy]

As an aside, I was reading something about the head ISIS guy's father who is involved in Muslim schools and mosques in the Boston area. It happened to mention that one of the mosques' imams radicalized the head of ISIS.

Which mosque? ....... What is his name?

Or did you just make that up?? ....

Not too long ago, Sunni-ISIS man was cheering his beloved ISIS animals with "go team Sunni". Now of course the fifth columner Muslim enemy within is keeping a low profile. I bet he goes to the same filthy ISIS mosque, or one that spews the same vile intolerance and violence.

Islam, where brain cells go to die:

Boston bombers 8217 mosque tied to ISIS New York Post

Boston bombers’ mosque tied to ISIS

When it was revealed that the Boston Marathon bombers attended a Cambridge, Mass., mosque, its leaders were quick to disavow their actions.

Elder brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s ideology was not their own, the leaders of the Islamic Society mosque claimed. In fact, he was admonished for an extremist outburst he made during one sermon.

So, one crackpot in a congregation. Who can blame the mosque?

But what about eight — including a prominent member of ISIS?

As it turns out, worshippers at the Islamic Society have included:

•  Abdurahman Alamoudi, the mosque’s founder and first president, who in 2004 was sentenced to 23 years in prison for plotting terrorism. In 2005, the Treasury Department issued a statement saying Alamoudi raised money for al Qaeda in the US.
•  Aafia Siddiqui, an MIT scientist-turned-al Qaeda agent, who in 2010 was sentenced to 86 years in prison for planning a New York chemical attack. Known as “Lady al Qaeda,” she is related to 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. ISIS has tried to trade her release for journalist hostages.
•  Tarek Mehanna, who in 2012 got 17 years in prison for conspiring to use automatic weapons to murder shoppers in a suburban Boston mall.
• Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a mosque trustee and Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood leader banned from the US after issuing a fatwa that called for the killing of US soldiers.
• Jamal Badawi, another former trustee who in 2007 was named an unindicted co-conspirator in a plan to funnel more than $12 million to Palestinian suicide bombers.

Now it can be revealed that another regular worshipper at the Islamic Society mosque was Ahmad Abousamra, who is now the top propagandist for ISIS.

Abousamra’s father, a prominent doctor, even sat on the board of directors of the Muslim organization that runs the mosque. He stepped down after the FBI began questioning his son.

The FBI suspects Abousamra now operates ISIS’s sophisticated media wing promoting the group’s beheadings and other atrocities through slick videos posted on the Internet. The brutally effective English-language propaganda campaign has helped attract thousands of Western jihadists, including at least 300 Americans.

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Steven Sotloff before he was tragically beheadedPhoto: EPA

The FBI says Abousamra, 32, traveled to Pakistan and Yemen to train to kill Americans while enrolled at Boston colleges. He justified murdering civilians because “they paid taxes to support the government and were kufar [nonbelievers],” Boston FBI Agent Andrew Nambu testified in an affidavit.

Another agent, Heidi Williams, says Abousamra, who has a $50,000 bounty on his head, was inspired by the 9/11 attacks and, in fact, “celebrated it.”

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An Islamic State militant about to behead journalist James Foley.Photo: Reuters

A federal indictment says he even plotted to randomly gun down shoppers, then emergency responders, in a Boston mall. But when he couldn’t obtain the automatic weapons for the attack, he abandoned the plan and moved to Syria, where he could enter Iraq and kill US soldiers as part of “violent jihad.”

Where did he learn his views about Islam and jihad?

The Islamic Society insists it’s moderate — that these extremists were fed by online forums. But Charles Jacobs, head of Boston’s Americans for Peace and Tolerance, says the mosque has hosted pro-jihad speakers and has stocked its library with classic jihadi texts — including writings by Osama bin Laden mentor Syed Qutb.

And Islamic Society leaders have openly defended their worshippers convicted of terrorism — including Siddiqui and Mehanna — despite overwhelming evidence against them. At their hearings and trials, officials have sought their release or lenient sentences. They have also held fundraisers and rallies for the terrorists.

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Tamerlan TsarnaevPhoto: AP

Recently, investigators found a mosque prayer card for Mehanna tucked in a Russian dictionary in Tsarnaev’s Cambridge apartment.

Abousamra’s father, Dr. Abdulbadi Abousamra, was president of the Islamic Center of New England mosques until 2007, when he moved to Detroit. The FBI began questioning his son a year earlier. As mosque president, internal documents show, Dr. Abousamra hired Hafiz Masood, brother of a known Pakistani terrorist, to be the imam of a mosque in Sharon, Mass., which his son also attended.

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Aafia Siddiqui

Dr. Abousamra, now chief of endocrinology at Wayne State University in Detroit, did not return emails and phone calls seeking comment.

As for the Islamic Society, it insists it isn’t preaching hate.

But how many terrorists does it take before people are convinced it isn’t a coincidence?

 

[Coyote]

ISIS Captives Tell Of Rapes And Beatings Plead For Help Parallels NPR

When militants from the self-proclaimed Islamic State swept through the Sinjar area of northern Iraq in August, they killed hundreds and kidnapped unknown numbers of men, women and children.

The fate of most of them is still unknown, but activists and those who have escaped recount horror stories of rapes and beatings. They're trying to focus international attention on those still being held.

Amnesty International has estimated that hundreds, possibly thousands are among them. Investigative journalist Nareen Shammo says she has tracked 4,000 cases of missing women presumed captured.

"I can't imagine how they live," she says. "And how much they need their mothers."

Connecting through cellphones that some of the women manage to keep hidden from their captors, Shammo says, many are asking for U.S. airstrikes targeting themselves.

"I talked to many of them. They [were] crying, they were saying, 'Please call the plane, we want them [to] kill us, we want to kill ourselves,' " Shammo says, adding that she knows of 41 women who have killed themselves while being held.

The captives are from the Yazidi religious minority, a group especially targeted for violence by the Islamic State, also called ISIS or ISIL.

Shammo says women and girls over 12 years old are sold off for "marriages," sometimes to multiple men — in reality, sold for rape.

"Many of them, they use them like slaves, they kill them, they rape them. Many of them kill themselves. What [do] you want [in order] to take action? What do you need?" she asks, urging the U.S., Baghdad officials or others to intervene.

In Irbil last week, dozens of protesters went to the American consulate and then the United Nations compound to beg for help to free the women, and for international protection of the Yazidi community.

Some Muslim men, inside ISIS-controlled areas, have purchased women to bring them to safety. The price of getting caught, though, is the men's lives. Activists say one man smuggled out nearly 40 women, but he had to flee the country to escape ISIS retaliation. Another tried to buy 10 women to bring them to safety but was caught and killed, according to his relatives.

A trickle of women have escaped on their own, like 19-year-old Amsha Ali and her baby son. We meet her in Zakho, just outside Dohuk. She was taken by ISIS from the northern Iraqi town of Tal Azer and held 25 days in Mosul before fleeing to safety.

She speaks softly and stares blankly at the wall in front of her as she holds her 4-month-old child in her arms.

Rest of her story at the link.

Are airstrikes going to be enough? The Kurds are doing well but their gains are modest. They are asking for more sophisticated weaponry. I suspect Iran and Turkey and maybe Iraq oppose that because of their own Kurdish populations and seperatist movements.

 

[Roudy]

As an aside, I was reading something about the head ISIS guy's father who is involved in Muslim schools and mosques in the Boston area. It happened to mention that one of the mosques' imams radicalized the head of ISIS.

Which mosque? ....... What is his name?

Or did you just make that up?? ....

Not too long ago, Sunni-ISIS man was cheering his beloved ISIS animals with "go team Sunni". Now of course the fifth columner Muslim enemy within is keeping a low profile. I bet he goes to the same filthy ISIS mosque, or one that spews the same vile intolerance and violence.

Islam, where brain cells go to die:

Boston bombers 8217 mosque tied to ISIS New York Post

Boston bombers’ mosque tied to ISIS

When it was revealed that the Boston Marathon bombers attended a Cambridge, Mass., mosque, its leaders were quick to disavow their actions.

Elder brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s ideology was not their own, the leaders of the Islamic Society mosque claimed. In fact, he was admonished for an extremist outburst he made during one sermon.

So, one crackpot in a congregation. Who can blame the mosque?

But what about eight — including a prominent member of ISIS?

As it turns out, worshippers at the Islamic Society have included:

•  Abdurahman Alamoudi, the mosque’s founder and first president, who in 2004 was sentenced to 23 years in prison for plotting terrorism. In 2005, the Treasury Department issued a statement saying Alamoudi raised money for al Qaeda in the US.
•  Aafia Siddiqui, an MIT scientist-turned-al Qaeda agent, who in 2010 was sentenced to 86 years in prison for planning a New York chemical attack. Known as “Lady al Qaeda,” she is related to 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. ISIS has tried to trade her release for journalist hostages.
•  Tarek Mehanna, who in 2012 got 17 years in prison for conspiring to use automatic weapons to murder shoppers in a suburban Boston mall.
• Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a mosque trustee and Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood leader banned from the US after issuing a fatwa that called for the killing of US soldiers.
• Jamal Badawi, another former trustee who in 2007 was named an unindicted co-conspirator in a plan to funnel more than $12 million to Palestinian suicide bombers.

Now it can be revealed that another regular worshipper at the Islamic Society mosque was Ahmad Abousamra, who is now the top propagandist for ISIS.

Abousamra’s father, a prominent doctor, even sat on the board of directors of the Muslim organization that runs the mosque. He stepped down after the FBI began questioning his son.

The FBI suspects Abousamra now operates ISIS’s sophisticated media wing promoting the group’s beheadings and other atrocities through slick videos posted on the Internet. The brutally effective English-language propaganda campaign has helped attract thousands of Western jihadists, including at least 300 Americans.

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Steven Sotloff before he was tragically beheadedPhoto: EPA

The FBI says Abousamra, 32, traveled to Pakistan and Yemen to train to kill Americans while enrolled at Boston colleges. He justified murdering civilians because “they paid taxes to support the government and were kufar [nonbelievers],” Boston FBI Agent Andrew Nambu testified in an affidavit.

Another agent, Heidi Williams, says Abousamra, who has a $50,000 bounty on his head, was inspired by the 9/11 attacks and, in fact, “celebrated it.”

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An Islamic State militant about to behead journalist James Foley.Photo: Reuters

A federal indictment says he even plotted to randomly gun down shoppers, then emergency responders, in a Boston mall. But when he couldn’t obtain the automatic weapons for the attack, he abandoned the plan and moved to Syria, where he could enter Iraq and kill US soldiers as part of “violent jihad.”

Where did he learn his views about Islam and jihad?

The Islamic Society insists it’s moderate — that these extremists were fed by online forums. But Charles Jacobs, head of Boston’s Americans for Peace and Tolerance, says the mosque has hosted pro-jihad speakers and has stocked its library with classic jihadi texts — including writings by Osama bin Laden mentor Syed Qutb.

And Islamic Society leaders have openly defended their worshippers convicted of terrorism — including Siddiqui and Mehanna — despite overwhelming evidence against them. At their hearings and trials, officials have sought their release or lenient sentences. They have also held fundraisers and rallies for the terrorists.

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Tamerlan TsarnaevPhoto: AP

Recently, investigators found a mosque prayer card for Mehanna tucked in a Russian dictionary in Tsarnaev’s Cambridge apartment.

Abousamra’s father, Dr. Abdulbadi Abousamra, was president of the Islamic Center of New England mosques until 2007, when he moved to Detroit. The FBI began questioning his son a year earlier. As mosque president, internal documents show, Dr. Abousamra hired Hafiz Masood, brother of a known Pakistani terrorist, to be the imam of a mosque in Sharon, Mass., which his son also attended.

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Aafia Siddiqui

Dr. Abousamra, now chief of endocrinology at Wayne State University in Detroit, did not return emails and phone calls seeking comment.

As for the Islamic Society, it insists it isn’t preaching hate.

But how many terrorists does it take before people are convinced it isn’t a coincidence?

Forked tongued enemy within Sunni ISIS man can't even tell the truth.

How long ago was it that you were braying like a donkey cheering for your beloved ISIS with "go team Sunni" slogans?

 

[Sunni Man]

I stopped when it was revealed that ISIS was an Israeli Mossad false flag operation. .....

 

[Roudy]

I stopped when it was revealed that ISIS was an Israeli Mossad false flag operation. .....

Yeah, keep lying. You supported them then and you support them now. Thousands of animals like you are flocking to ISIS because they are practicing true Islam following in Mohammad the terrorist prophet's footsteps. You are a fine example of the scum cancer of humanity that the world is trying to get rid of.

Why don't you go join your fellow Jihadi's, like many Sunni Muslims in the West have? But no, you'd rather run around like a troll, kissing Sally's ass like a male chauvist pig. Another trait Islam teaches you guys.

Sunni-ISIS man cheering for ISIS: "go team Sunni!"

Ha ha ha. Islam, where brain cells go to die.

 

[Sunni Man]

..........................^^ Roudy is hitting thequite early today. .......

 

[Roudy]

..........................^^ Roudy is hitting thequite early today. .......

Hey I'm not the one cheering for ISIS, you were. And now you're trying to hide it.

Ya right, ISIS is an Israeli false flag operation. Ha ha ha. Talk about hitting the bottle. You Muslims are fucking insane.

 

[Sunni Man]

Israel has been unusually silent about a raging civil war taking place on it's northern border.

Which is tacit proof that Israel is deeply involved with ISIS and it's fight against Assad. .......

 

[Roudy]

Israel has been unusually silent about a raging civil war taking place on it's northern border.

Which is tacit proof that Israel is deeply involved with ISIS and it's fight against Assad. .......

Yes, Israel is silent and letting violent Muslim animals slaughter each other, and THAT is tacit proof that Israel is deeply involved with ISIS!

GO ISIS, GO TEAM SUNNI!! Ha ha ha.

Islam, where brain cells go to die.

 

[emilynghiem]

As an aside, I was reading something about the head ISIS guy's father who is involved in Muslim schools and mosques in the Boston area. It happened to mention that one of the mosques' imams radicalized the head of ISIS.

Which mosque? ....... What is his name?

Or did you just make that up?? ....

Not too long ago, Sunni-ISIS man was cheering his beloved ISIS animals with "go team Sunni". Now of course the fifth columner Muslim enemy within is keeping a low profile. I bet he goes to the same filthy ISIS mosque, or one that spews the same vile intolerance and violence.

Islam, where brain cells go to die:

Boston bombers 8217 mosque tied to ISIS New York Post

Boston bombers’ mosque tied to ISIS

When it was revealed that the Boston Marathon bombers attended a Cambridge, Mass., mosque, its leaders were quick to disavow their actions.

Elder brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s ideology was not their own, the leaders of the Islamic Society mosque claimed. In fact, he was admonished for an extremist outburst he made during one sermon.

So, one crackpot in a congregation. Who can blame the mosque?

But what about eight — including a prominent member of ISIS?

As it turns out, worshippers at the Islamic Society have included:

•  Abdurahman Alamoudi, the mosque’s founder and first president, who in 2004 was sentenced to 23 years in prison for plotting terrorism. In 2005, the Treasury Department issued a statement saying Alamoudi raised money for al Qaeda in the US.
•  Aafia Siddiqui, an MIT scientist-turned-al Qaeda agent, who in 2010 was sentenced to 86 years in prison for planning a New York chemical attack. Known as “Lady al Qaeda,” she is related to 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. ISIS has tried to trade her release for journalist hostages.
•  Tarek Mehanna, who in 2012 got 17 years in prison for conspiring to use automatic weapons to murder shoppers in a suburban Boston mall.
• Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a mosque trustee and Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood leader banned from the US after issuing a fatwa that called for the killing of US soldiers.
• Jamal Badawi, another former trustee who in 2007 was named an unindicted co-conspirator in a plan to funnel more than $12 million to Palestinian suicide bombers.

Now it can be revealed that another regular worshipper at the Islamic Society mosque was Ahmad Abousamra, who is now the top propagandist for ISIS.

Abousamra’s father, a prominent doctor, even sat on the board of directors of the Muslim organization that runs the mosque. He stepped down after the FBI began questioning his son.

The FBI suspects Abousamra now operates ISIS’s sophisticated media wing promoting the group’s beheadings and other atrocities through slick videos posted on the Internet. The brutally effective English-language propaganda campaign has helped attract thousands of Western jihadists, including at least 300 Americans.

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Steven Sotloff before he was tragically beheadedPhoto: EPA

The FBI says Abousamra, 32, traveled to Pakistan and Yemen to train to kill Americans while enrolled at Boston colleges. He justified murdering civilians because “they paid taxes to support the government and were kufar [nonbelievers],” Boston FBI Agent Andrew Nambu testified in an affidavit.

Another agent, Heidi Williams, says Abousamra, who has a $50,000 bounty on his head, was inspired by the 9/11 attacks and, in fact, “celebrated it.”

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An Islamic State militant about to behead journalist James Foley.Photo: Reuters

A federal indictment says he even plotted to randomly gun down shoppers, then emergency responders, in a Boston mall. But when he couldn’t obtain the automatic weapons for the attack, he abandoned the plan and moved to Syria, where he could enter Iraq and kill US soldiers as part of “violent jihad.”

Where did he learn his views about Islam and jihad?

The Islamic Society insists it’s moderate — that these extremists were fed by online forums. But Charles Jacobs, head of Boston’s Americans for Peace and Tolerance, says the mosque has hosted pro-jihad speakers and has stocked its library with classic jihadi texts — including writings by Osama bin Laden mentor Syed Qutb.

And Islamic Society leaders have openly defended their worshippers convicted of terrorism — including Siddiqui and Mehanna — despite overwhelming evidence against them. At their hearings and trials, officials have sought their release or lenient sentences. They have also held fundraisers and rallies for the terrorists.

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Tamerlan TsarnaevPhoto: AP

Recently, investigators found a mosque prayer card for Mehanna tucked in a Russian dictionary in Tsarnaev’s Cambridge apartment.

Abousamra’s father, Dr. Abdulbadi Abousamra, was president of the Islamic Center of New England mosques until 2007, when he moved to Detroit. The FBI began questioning his son a year earlier. As mosque president, internal documents show, Dr. Abousamra hired Hafiz Masood, brother of a known Pakistani terrorist, to be the imam of a mosque in Sharon, Mass., which his son also attended.

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Aafia Siddiqui

Dr. Abousamra, now chief of endocrinology at Wayne State University in Detroit, did not return emails and phone calls seeking comment.

As for the Islamic Society, it insists it isn’t preaching hate.

But how many terrorists does it take before people are convinced it isn’t a coincidence?

Forked tongued enemy within Sunni ISIS man can't even tell the truth.

How long ago was it that you were braying like a donkey cheering for your beloved ISIS with "go team Sunni" slogans?

Dear Roudy: Thanks for posting these links. On the whole I agree that NO ONE should be cheering on or turning a blind eye to either political or religious abuses/violence covered up by corruption.

On that note, however, I read into the history of Aafia Siddiqui and it appears quite tragic and horrifying.
I am more concerned that she has been abused and separated from her children and family
when she needs that support to recover from whatever mental conditions and grief this whole case has brought on.

Regardless of fault and association, she sounds like she is sick and needs help more than punishment
by keeping her from her family. I am saddened and heartbroken to hear about this.
No wonder people are riled up and do not respect the govt if this case has been dragging out
with no help for this poor woman.

I will ask good friends I trust with Muslim outreach organizations what is the deal with her case.
If it sounds like more is going on, then this needs to be addressed and resolved.
NOT create more animosity, distrust and violence around it.

If the men are pressuring the women to get in trouble this way, that needs to be addressed.
She needs help and I would certainly like to know the truth and make sure there is no corruption and cover up
going on, making her the scapegoat for terrorist activity of men that is easier to torture an easy target for.

She sounds more to me like a victim, while the other men doing the terrorist plotting get away with it.
I don't think her case sounds like the "Jihad Jane" and other people taken advantage of because of their mental predilections.

In her case she sounds like she was made crazy by the death of her young child
and separation from her family while framing her as a sick violent killer who attacked others.
if that is true, she would still need help; but this sounds very bad to me!

Thank you for posting this.
I will try to look into it and see what can be
done to resolve this so the truly guilty dangerous people can be detained and stopped.

And NO credibility is lost over persecuting and prosecuting the wrong people.
Her case sounds different from the other ones we read about in the news.

 

[Roudy]

As an aside, I was reading something about the head ISIS guy's father who is involved in Muslim schools and mosques in the Boston area. It happened to mention that one of the mosques' imams radicalized the head of ISIS.

Which mosque? ....... What is his name?

Or did you just make that up?? ....

Not too long ago, Sunni-ISIS man was cheering his beloved ISIS animals with "go team Sunni". Now of course the fifth columner Muslim enemy within is keeping a low profile. I bet he goes to the same filthy ISIS mosque, or one that spews the same vile intolerance and violence.

Islam, where brain cells go to die:

Boston bombers 8217 mosque tied to ISIS New York Post

Boston bombers’ mosque tied to ISIS

When it was revealed that the Boston Marathon bombers attended a Cambridge, Mass., mosque, its leaders were quick to disavow their actions.

Elder brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s ideology was not their own, the leaders of the Islamic Society mosque claimed. In fact, he was admonished for an extremist outburst he made during one sermon.

So, one crackpot in a congregation. Who can blame the mosque?

But what about eight — including a prominent member of ISIS?

As it turns out, worshippers at the Islamic Society have included:

•  Abdurahman Alamoudi, the mosque’s founder and first president, who in 2004 was sentenced to 23 years in prison for plotting terrorism. In 2005, the Treasury Department issued a statement saying Alamoudi raised money for al Qaeda in the US.
•  Aafia Siddiqui, an MIT scientist-turned-al Qaeda agent, who in 2010 was sentenced to 86 years in prison for planning a New York chemical attack. Known as “Lady al Qaeda,” she is related to 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. ISIS has tried to trade her release for journalist hostages.
•  Tarek Mehanna, who in 2012 got 17 years in prison for conspiring to use automatic weapons to murder shoppers in a suburban Boston mall.
• Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a mosque trustee and Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood leader banned from the US after issuing a fatwa that called for the killing of US soldiers.
• Jamal Badawi, another former trustee who in 2007 was named an unindicted co-conspirator in a plan to funnel more than $12 million to Palestinian suicide bombers.

Now it can be revealed that another regular worshipper at the Islamic Society mosque was Ahmad Abousamra, who is now the top propagandist for ISIS.

Abousamra’s father, a prominent doctor, even sat on the board of directors of the Muslim organization that runs the mosque. He stepped down after the FBI began questioning his son.

The FBI suspects Abousamra now operates ISIS’s sophisticated media wing promoting the group’s beheadings and other atrocities through slick videos posted on the Internet. The brutally effective English-language propaganda campaign has helped attract thousands of Western jihadists, including at least 300 Americans.

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Steven Sotloff before he was tragically beheadedPhoto: EPA

The FBI says Abousamra, 32, traveled to Pakistan and Yemen to train to kill Americans while enrolled at Boston colleges. He justified murdering civilians because “they paid taxes to support the government and were kufar [nonbelievers],” Boston FBI Agent Andrew Nambu testified in an affidavit.

Another agent, Heidi Williams, says Abousamra, who has a $50,000 bounty on his head, was inspired by the 9/11 attacks and, in fact, “celebrated it.”

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An Islamic State militant about to behead journalist James Foley.Photo: Reuters

A federal indictment says he even plotted to randomly gun down shoppers, then emergency responders, in a Boston mall. But when he couldn’t obtain the automatic weapons for the attack, he abandoned the plan and moved to Syria, where he could enter Iraq and kill US soldiers as part of “violent jihad.”

Where did he learn his views about Islam and jihad?

The Islamic Society insists it’s moderate — that these extremists were fed by online forums. But Charles Jacobs, head of Boston’s Americans for Peace and Tolerance, says the mosque has hosted pro-jihad speakers and has stocked its library with classic jihadi texts — including writings by Osama bin Laden mentor Syed Qutb.

And Islamic Society leaders have openly defended their worshippers convicted of terrorism — including Siddiqui and Mehanna — despite overwhelming evidence against them. At their hearings and trials, officials have sought their release or lenient sentences. They have also held fundraisers and rallies for the terrorists.

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Tamerlan TsarnaevPhoto: AP

Recently, investigators found a mosque prayer card for Mehanna tucked in a Russian dictionary in Tsarnaev’s Cambridge apartment.

Abousamra’s father, Dr. Abdulbadi Abousamra, was president of the Islamic Center of New England mosques until 2007, when he moved to Detroit. The FBI began questioning his son a year earlier. As mosque president, internal documents show, Dr. Abousamra hired Hafiz Masood, brother of a known Pakistani terrorist, to be the imam of a mosque in Sharon, Mass., which his son also attended.

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Aafia Siddiqui

Dr. Abousamra, now chief of endocrinology at Wayne State University in Detroit, did not return emails and phone calls seeking comment.

As for the Islamic Society, it insists it isn’t preaching hate.

But how many terrorists does it take before people are convinced it isn’t a coincidence?

Forked tongued enemy within Sunni ISIS man can't even tell the truth.

How long ago was it that you were braying like a donkey cheering for your beloved ISIS with "go team Sunni" slogans?

Dear Roudy: Thanks for posting these links. On the whole I agree that NO ONE should be cheering on or turning a blind eye to either political or religious abuses/violence covered up by corruption.

On that note, however, I read into the history of Aafia Siddiqui and it appears quite tragic and horrifying.
I am more concerned that she has been abused and separated from her children and family
when she needs that support to recover from whatever mental conditions and grief this whole case has brought on.

Regardless of fault and association, she sounds like she is sick and needs help more than punishment
by keeping her from her family. I am saddened and heartbroken to hear about this.
No wonder people are riled up and do not respect the govt if this case has been dragging out
with no help for this poor woman.

I will ask good friends I trust with Muslim outreach organizations what is the deal with her case.
If it sounds like more is going on, then this needs to be addressed and resolved.
NOT create more animosity, distrust and violence around it.

If the men are pressuring the women to get in trouble this way, that needs to be addressed.
She needs help and I would certainly like to know the truth and make sure there is no corruption and cover up
going on, making her the scapegoat for terrorist activity of men that is easier to torture an easy target for.

She sounds more to me like a victim, while the other men doing the terrorist plotting get away with it.
I don't think her case sounds like the "Jihad Jane" and other people taken advantage of because of their mental predilections.

In her case she sounds like she was made crazy by the death of her young child
and separation from her family while framing her as a sick violent killer who attacked others.
if that is true, she would still need help; but this sounds very bad to me!

Thank you for posting this.
I will try to look into it and see what can be
done to resolve this so the truly guilty dangerous people can be detained and stopped.

And NO credibility is lost over persecuting and prosecuting the wrong people.
Her case sounds different from the other ones we read about in the news.

You're welcome. Unfortunately there isn't much you and I can do. Obama has messed up the world so much, it's probably going to take another 40 years to recover.

 

[emilynghiem]

You're welcome. Unfortunately there isn't much you and I can do. Obama has messed up the world so much, it's probably going to take another 40 years to recover.

Dear Roudy: To quote Obama's own words applied to this context: Nobody built this by themselves.
It takes everyone to make a mess and everyone to clean it up. No different than kindergarten
or running a household, just times 1000, or a million, or a billion times 7, but you get my point:
if we all break it down into what we can do locally, we'd too BUSY cleaning up to make any more messes!

The messes were already building up BEFORE Reagan, Bush, Obama, whoever you want to credit or blame.

This new stage is just that we are bringing out all this garbage in the media to a greater level of Visibility.
But the garbage was already being produce, and stacking up for taxpayers to pay for while the debts
and damages accumulated.

Liberals will just as easily point to the billions per month spent on war and say there's no way to keep paying that either.

Instead of pointing the fingers at each other, let's use our hands to build sustainable solutions to the messes.

Roudy, everyone on here CARES about some issues more than others.
If we prioritize and delegate out in teams, we can get more done.
And multiply that by 1000, or a million or a billion times 7, and you have the whole world working
on positive goals and jobs to keep us plenty employed in ways that benefit everyone.

There a term for this approach and it's called the Abundance Mentality.
When we are crippled by fear it is called the Scarcity Mentality where we start fighting
with the next guy thinking there's not enough to go around.

All the richest most successful people in the world live by the Abundance Mentality
and invest in their neighbors and in serving others in productive ways that pay off for everyone.

We can do this, that's all who has ever solved problems is people by necessity.

Roudy I support you and everyone on USMB who gives a flip about something.

You may think it is impossible, but look at my msg above where you got something
positive out of it and so did Sunni Man. There are ways we can solve problems that
don't threaten or offend one person or another, even if we don't agree but may still continue
to have huge differences and conflicts that can't be reconciled.

We can at least focus on what we DO agree is helpful, and get that done.
If everyone does that, boom, we all get stuff cleaned up and fixed.
And delegate the rest to other teams who can handle what we aren't designed to do.

All of us have a job and interests that make us special and serve a unique purpose in the world.
Roudy I cannot do the work that you are called to do, to clean up messes you can see from your view.
And same with me, and Sunni and others who may not even agree with us.
We all have work to do. We can all support each other in doing the best work possible
and together, that covers all the bases out there.

Just cannot afford any more BS and fingerpointing when we need all hands on deck
to get working. It will take 5-10 years to set up the basic templates for stabilizing cities and govts
to operate sustainably. After the framework is set up, the structure can generate and support
jobs and education in every field as necessary to keep training and employing the next generation
of leaders and citizens to do the work to maintain their part of the world. So it can be set
up and sustained, but not with all this fighting going on. That part will come to an end,
and the real work will begin.

I'm honored and thankful to be part of the generation that will see this transition through.
Again the messes were already set into place and passed down from before,
some things getting better and others getting worse, until we take the best solutions
and use those to fix the worse problems. There is a learning curve going on
and with the Internet connecting people and resources across teh globe,
the process is accelerated. So we will be implementing these changes for the
reforms needed now. We cannot afford not to make the changes and will have find
the best ways to work together to make that happen. No more war, waste and garbage, can't afford it.

Thanks Roudy
Keep up the courage and direct your compassion into compelling
positive changes around you. when we all do that, we change the world.

Love and peace
and more power to you!
Yours truly,
Emily

 

[emilynghiem]

You're welcome. Unfortunately there isn't much you and I can do. Obama has messed up the world so much, it's probably going to take another 40 years to recover.

PS if it's going to take this generation to set up solutions and the next one to complete the work
and pass it forward,
that's all the more reason to lay down swords and pick up tools to start building now.

We have too much work to do to waste words and weapons fighting.
Even if we started now, rebuilding damaged cities and govts it would take years to complete.
So you are right, realistically speaking we need to get off our backs, organize teams and resources,
and start now if we are going to implement stable solutions that can be sustained by the people after us.

see longer msg above, hope this encourages you, cuz it will take everyone doing what we can
to fix all the problems we inherited and cannot afford to repeat and pass on.

Thanks, Roudy, take heart, take courage, and take care!

 

[aris2chat]

You're welcome. Unfortunately there isn't much you and I can do. Obama has messed up the world so much, it's probably going to take another 40 years to recover.

Dear Roudy: To quote Obama's own words applied to this context: Nobody built this by themselves.
It takes everyone to make a mess and everyone to clean it up. No different than kindergarten
or running a household, just times 1000, or a million, or a billion times 7, but you get my point:
if we all break it down into what we can do locally, we'd too BUSY cleaning up to make any more messes!

The messes were already building up BEFORE Reagan, Bush, Obama, whoever you want to credit or blame.

This new stage is just that we are bringing out all this garbage in the media to a greater level of Visibility.
But the garbage was already being produce, and stacking up for taxpayers to pay for while the debts
and damages accumulated.

Liberals will just as easily point to the billions per month spent on war and say there's no way to keep paying that either.

Instead of pointing the fingers at each other, let's use our hands to build sustainable solutions to the messes.

Roudy, everyone on here CARES about some issues more than others.
If we prioritize and delegate out in teams, we can get more done.
And multiply that by 1000, or a million or a billion times 7, and you have the whole world working
on positive goals and jobs to keep us plenty employed in ways that benefit everyone.

There a term for this approach and it's called the Abundance Mentality.
When we are crippled by fear it is called the Scarcity Mentality where we start fighting
with the next guy thinking there's not enough to go around.

All the richest most successful people in the world live by the Abundance Mentality
and invest in their neighbors and in serving others in productive ways that pay off for everyone.

We can do this, that's all who has ever solved problems is people by necessity.

Roudy I support you and everyone on USMB who gives a flip about something.

You may think it is impossible, but look at my msg above where you got something
positive out of it and so did Sunni Man. There are ways we can solve problems that
don't threaten or offend one person or another, even if we don't agree but may still continue
to have huge differences and conflicts that can't be reconciled.

We can at least focus on what we DO agree is helpful, and get that done.
If everyone does that, boom, we all get stuff cleaned up and fixed.
And delegate the rest to other teams who can handle what we aren't designed to do.

All of us have a job and interests that make us special and serve a unique purpose in the world.
Roudy I cannot do the work that you are called to do, to clean up messes you can see from your view.
And same with me, and Sunni and others who may not even agree with us.
We all have work to do. We can all support each other in doing the best work possible
and together, that covers all the bases out there.

Just cannot afford any more BS and fingerpointing when we need all hands on deck
to get working. It will take 5-10 years to set up the basic templates for stabilizing cities and govts
to operate sustainably. After the framework is set up, the structure can generate and support
jobs and education in every field as necessary to keep training and employing the next generation
of leaders and citizens to do the work to maintain their part of the world. So it can be set
up and sustained, but not with all this fighting going on. That part will come to an end,
and the real work will begin.

I'm honored and thankful to be part of the generation that will see this transition through.
Again the messes were already set into place and passed down from before,
some things getting better and others getting worse, until we take the best solutions
and use those to fix the worse problems. There is a learning curve going on
and with the Internet connecting people and resources across teh globe,
the process is accelerated. So we will be implementing these changes for the
reforms needed now. We cannot afford not to make the changes and will have find
the best ways to work together to make that happen. No more war, waste and garbage, can't afford it.

Thanks Roudy
Keep up the courage and direct your compassion into compelling
positive changes around you. when we all do that, we change the world.

Love and peace
and more power to you!
Yours truly,
Emily

Where was this "Islamic" respect for women?????

 

[emilynghiem]

Where was this "Islamic" respect for women?????

Hi Aris: it depends on the person and their cultural traditions patterns and habits.

the men and women I know who are Muslim are very humble
and naturally charitable; they show better manners and respect than I do as an American who takes
things for granted while they don't.

When I ask about abuses such as cases of honor killings, these are confirmed as coming out of Pakistan
Specifically.
It is a cultural issue with govts and social norms in those countries that are very restrictive.

Examples:
* Pakistan
One of my students from Pakistan constantly got in trouble for acting too American which is shunned
and considered very bad manners for a young lady to do things we take for granted, like ask
a strange man what time it is.
* Iran
I met a man from Iran who acted very strangely towards me because I was female
and he did not feel comfortable interacting with a single female. again a cultural issue
with that country. he made me feel uncomfortable and I did the same for him.

it's the country and the govt in those countries.
the American Muslims I know don't carry that over here,
but they will tell me it happens in countries like Nigeria where tyrannical groups take over
govt and start imposing their strong armed policies on people.

The Muslims I know respect their mothers and pass that respect on to all women.
My coworker who is Muslim will scold fellow workers for talking in strong language in front of me,
asking them to refrain because of the "lady" present.

He is more respectful of his mother, women and people in general than I am.
He is from Nigeria, from a royal family with strong family traditions of respecting elders,
and I am American born and take a lot for granted. I am not as respectful of my parents' traditions
of honoring elders as they were brought up; it is a cultural thing that can even overrides religious tradition in families.

If you want to see the patterns, look at how people talk about
their relationships with their parents. if they have control issues there, they project them on others.
If they respect their parents and are at peace with their pasts,
they tend to be as respectful with other people.

We get a lot of conditioning from our parents, and the social expectations we were brought up with.
it's not always determined by religion which is only one factor.

the universal pattern is how people are tied to their parents and either repeat good patterns
and strengths or project negative patterns and weaknesses.
this is true of all people's psychology by nature, independent of religion which is an additional factor
along with what country we are born in and what norms we are brought up in that soceity.