Zone1 Questioning the Book of Mormon

[Cougarbear]

You are rationalizing your bad behavior is what you are doing.

Adam did you eat the apple? The woman YOU made gave it to me.

Basically you are saying your being disrespectful wasn't YOUR fault, it was HER fault. I guess she deserved it, huh? I wonder how many wife beaters made that argument? She had it coming.

Your excuses won't work with God.

My behavior is good. Her words were an attempt of slander and hatred. Mine are simply in response and are good.

 

[Cougarbear]

Does the Church of LDS teach to turn the other cheek?

What do you mean life isn't fair? Of course it is. Life will give you whatever you ask of it. You want to be poor, life will give you poverty. You want to be successful, life will give you success...

 

[SweetSue92]

The way you state things is different than the way Sweet(less)Sue92 does. She attacks and belittles. You simply state your opinions whether true or not true, whether logical or illogical. I point out the logic within context such as Jesus was talking specifically to those asking the question, the rabbis of the Jews. So, his response was specifically to the rabbis of the Jews telling them they are also gods. Note the small (g) representing what Psalms 82:6 says after telling the people they are gods, "But children of the Most High.) Which simply means, our Father in Heaven will always be our Father in Heaven, even when we are a God for our own universe and receive the building blocks of our own universe. We will never be God to this universe. But, certainly with our own that we construct if we make it to the highest degree of the 3rd Heaven of Glory, the Celestial Glory as stated in 1Corinthians chapter 15.

I have said many times that most Mormons are decent, hardworking people. My problem is not with them generally, but with their devotion to Joseph Smith, who was either a psychopath, deranged, or both.

Again. He peered into a hat and looked at magic rocks and came up with this. That's...just the story of Mormonism.

 

[ding]

My behavior is good. Her words were an attempt of slander and hatred. Mine are simply in response and are good.

So she made you do that?

 

[ding]

What do you mean life isn't fair? Of course it is. Life will give you whatever you ask of it. You want to be poor, life will give you poverty. You want to be successful, life will give you success...

So the Church of LDS doesn't teach you to turn the other cheek?

If life were fair you wouldn't be blaming others for your poor behaviors.

 

[Cougarbear]

I have said many times that most Mormons are decent, hardworking people. My problem is not with them generally, but with their devotion to Joseph Smith, who was either a psychopath, deranged, or both.

Again. He peered into a hat and looked at magic rocks and came up with this. That's...just the story of Mormonism.

He was none of those things. He was a man called directly by the Father and Son through the Holy Ghost to restore the Lord's Church and the fullness of the Gospel.
Yes, if you would take some time to read the Bible, you will find prophets, seers and revelators also had seer stones. The Urim and Thummin Moses had had seer stones as well.

 

[onefour1]

I watched this video and thought it was quite interesting regarding evidence of the truthfulness of the Book of Abraham:

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Just like Cult Christianity .
Life and After Life .

Evil .All of them ..

The God who gave you this life has the power to give it back after you've died. There is life in knowing Him

"If a man dies, will he live again? All the days of my appointed time I will wait til my change comes"

 

[tyroneweaver]

Cougarbear is one of the old fat men sitting in the back row at quorum meetings who says, "In our church we believe...", then goes on to yammer.

Go to lds.org if you want to learn about the Mormons, not this dude.

oldest of Mormon customs. Come late sit on the back row and leave early

 

[tyroneweaver]

Are you? Do you honor and respect President Nelson as much as President Packer and Apostle Romney?

Can't say I support these guys like I should. But I go to church to worship God

 

[tyroneweaver]

What? Are the scriptures lying when they declare that God speaks through Jesus only? It was Jesus speaking to the church from heaven through the Holy Spirit in the 1st century when these gifts existed. One inspired writing does not contradict another, as all scripture is inspired of God (2 Tim. 3:16-17)

The word of God specifically explains that all the signs you mentioned would soon FAIL. When that which is perfect (teleioo') comes (the complete word of God) -- 1 Cor. 13 The Word of God...i.e, the faith was delivered once for all time in the 1st century Jude 3

"Love never ends, As for prophecies, they will pass away, as for tongues (the gift of speaking in another language), they will cease, as for knowledge (supernatural gift), it will pass away." -- 1 Cor. 13:8

When will these gifts of the Spirit of God end? Each of these gifts were in part......no one possessed all the supernatural gifts, each was given to establish doctrine for the new born church.........once the church was mature, the gifts would cease as they were no longer required. The church/kingdom was made complete in the 1st century when the Word of God......i.,e THE PERFECT came into existence..........in the original tongue of Koine Greek, translates as made whole or complete (teleioo').......the same Greek word used by James when describing the PERFECT LAW OF LIBERTY (the completed word of God) -- James 1:24

"For we (the apostles and saints of the 1st century) know in part and we prophecy in part, BUT WHEN THE PERFECT (TELEIOO') COMES......THE PARTIAL WILL PASS AWAY........." -- 1 Cor. 13:9-10

These gifts have ceased..........today, the gifts of the Spirit that remains are "Faith, Hope, and Love", with Love being the greatest of these Spiritual Gifts. -- 1 Cor. 13:13



We are commanded to "rightly" divide the word of Truth. (2 Tim. 2:15) When you present an opinion that ends with one scripture contradicting another.....you are not rightly dividing the word of TRUTH.

The reason that we are to TEST those who claim to be prophets.........as of today, there is not one documented sign of a true apostle of Christ that exists. All are proven frauds, false prophets when put to the test. If not.........document just one sign of an Apostle of Christ. Make the blind see, the dead raise, the lamb walk, etc., Show us these miraculous signs......if not, your cult is just another example of fraud.





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I bet you peddle the Watch Tower

 

[tyroneweaver]

Like Jesus and Satan are spirit-brothers

And Mormon men will get their own planet, with their wife, in eternity

So you don't believe God created Jesus

 

[tyroneweaver]

You are rationalizing your bad behavior is what you are doing.

Adam did you eat the apple? The woman YOU made gave it to me.

Basically you are saying your being disrespectful wasn't YOUR fault, it was HER fault. I guess she deserved it, huh? I wonder how many wife beaters made that argument? She had it coming.

Your excuses won't work with God.

suffer from circular reasoning much

 

[tyroneweaver]

I have said many times that most Mormons are decent, hardworking people. My problem is not with them generally, but with their devotion to Joseph Smith, who was either a psychopath, deranged, or both.

Again. He peered into a hat and looked at magic rocks and came up with this. That's...just the story of Mormonism.

And most hard core evangelicals that Ive met are whack jobs

 

[Carl in Michigan]

So you don't believe God created Jesus

The Bible doesn't say that. The One born Jesus is ETERNAL -- meaning He ALWAYS existed and always will

 

[tyroneweaver]

The Bible doesn't say that. The One born Jesus is ETERNAL -- meaning He ALWAYS existed and always will

So the God Jesus worshipped isn't eternal

 

[onefour1]

Here is another good video on the misconceptions non-Mormons have about the Book of Abraham and why they falsely believe that it is false:

 

[SweetSue92]

So you don't believe God created Jesus

No, Jesus is eternal, three in one with God and the Holy Spirit.

God DID create Jesus in human form though

 

[tyroneweaver]

No, Jesus is eternal, three in one with God and the Holy Spirit.

God DID create Jesus in human form though

that's nonsense that started in the 2nd and 3rd century. There's no such being that's 3 in one. You guys doctrine of the trinity is worse than false.
I pray to the same God Jesus prayed to

 

[tyroneweaver]

The Bible doesn't say that. The One born Jesus is ETERNAL -- meaning He ALWAYS existed and always will

So you're telling us Jesus is the Father. Son's don't exist without a Father. So is Jesus the Father?