Question for rtwng

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by crazy canadian
How much money should 1 person own? To live better than happily, to live with toys and vacations and security?

As much as they can garner through legal means. Only liberals even dream of coming up with such a number. Guess what? It's not your decision to make!

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Crazy c. Please elaborate on your computer program idea. Even if our government was 100% incorruptable robots, income redistribution will still be wrong and damaging to society. Corruption is a concern. But even without corruption, socialism is STILL a bad idea.

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[crazy canadian]

I suppose. Everyone can come up with their own personal number, and work from there. But having too much money is so glorified.

I live in the States. Not Canada.

 

[dilloduck]

Originally posted by crazy canadian
How much money should 1 person own? To live better than happily, to live with toys and vacations and security?

Depends on how hard he wants to work for it and the sacrifices he is willing to make. It's a choice that the libs wanna take away by using the plight of the needy

 

[crazy canadian]

What if socialism met capitalism halfway, with the use of computers?

Am I living in a dreamland?

 

[crazy canadian]

Everyone is born with both socialism and capitalism in their bones. It depends on your nurture and your nature which one blooms in you. I come from a socialist family, married into a capitalist one.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Look cc. I know you're going through a rough spot. I know you wish you could just have some of other people's money because you need it. But you must look at the greater ramifications of what those policies do to society. Innovation stops.
Black markets controlled by the socialist officials develop, even if those officials are rogue robots.

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[crazy canadian]

I actually don't need anyone's money. We're doing fine. I've had the opportunity to sue a few people in the last year. We could be back home by now. But that's not who I'm all about.
Do you like fighting socialists? Or if they were willing to meet you halfway, would you take the opportunity?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by crazy canadian
What if socialism met capitalism halfway, with the use of computers?

Am I living in a dreamland?

Computers make no difference. Someone still needs to run the computers and maintain the software. Your free to try to convince me otherwise, but I just don't see it.

 

[dilloduck]

Originally posted by crazy canadian
Everyone is born with both socialism and capitalism in their bones. It depends on your nurture and your nature which one blooms in you. I come from a socialist family, married into a capitalist one.

So don't generalize capitalists as all being greedy--they give away more than you realize but tend to do it without making a big deal out of it. There is real need and some people are just lazy as hell. Should the lazy ones reap the benefits of someone elses' hard work? That sure would make me question how much I wanted to sacrifice.

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
I will not prepare. It will not happen. It is not inevitable. We brought down the Soviets union and we will bring down the libs internally. Dk, everything they say is a lie. They will never come to power that way.

The economy is doing great-- libs lie about it.
Iraq has been more succesful than not-- libs lie about it.

despite your obvious biased against anything not in your world view, socialism will not happen because of the libs not will it happen because things are going good or bad in any part of the world. It will happen from within humanity, a major portion of it, and there will be no way to stop it. It will happen either peacefully or it will happen in a bloody violent coup. Either way, it will be a one world government of socialism that cannot be stopped.

 

[crazy canadian]

What makes people lazy?

 

[crazy canadian]

It wouldn't be a secret computer program. Open to the public's interpretation. You could see what was happening. The first fully disclosed thing the gov't does.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by crazy canadian
I actually don't need anyone's money. We're doing fine. I've had the opportunity to sue a few people in the last year. We could be back home by now. But that's not who I'm all about.
Do you like fighting socialists? Or if they were willing to meet you halfway, would you take the opportunity?

We have met them half way. We have social security. we have medicaid. we have foodstamps. we have government housing. We have a graduated income tax. They still want more. Their formula is to stay in power by continually and unceasingly criticizing and villifying the more wealthy. Right or wrong. the emotion of envy is very powerful and easy to fan into a flame. Libs really on this negative emotion. It's their bread and butter, and for that, they are fundamentally evil.

 

[dilloduck]

Originally posted by crazy canadian
What makes people lazy?

Giving them the idea that they can get something for doing nothing

 

[crazy canadian]

Dude, I'm not evil. If I had all the money in the world, I would share it with everyone.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by crazy canadian
It wouldn't be a secret computer program. Open to the public's interpretation. You could see what was happening. The first fully disclosed thing the gov't does.

The policy is the issue. Even with 0 corruption redistribution would still be wrong and detrimental to growth.

Your computer idea is bad. There I said it.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by crazy canadian
Dude, I'm not evil. If I had all the money in the world, I would share it with everyone.

With that attitude, you would never have all the money in the world in the first place!

 

[crazy canadian]

Socialists are like how mothers are supposed to be. Mothers want everything to be good for all their kids. Capitalists are like the father, who used to be supposed to go out and beat everyone up, and take everything for just his family. I think capitalists are right in some ways, and socialists too.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Society breaks down when extra effort accrues no extra reward. People do as little as they can, because doing more simply doesn't matter.