Question for Poker players about Omaha Hi-Lo

[Seymour Flops]

Please let me know how much of this game you have played if you answer this:

Does Omaha Hi-Lo play similar to double board Omaha bomb pots?

I guess with no ante, but blinds only, it isn't similar in that way. But once the money start going in, do players who think they only have one board go all-in? Is there crazy action?

I'm asking because I love playing bomb pots when they are played every time dealer changes in a game of NL Hold em. I'd love to play a bomb pots only cash game, but I've never found one. Played some Bomb pots only tournaments. Would Omaha Hi-Lo be a good substitute?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Please let me know how much of this game you have played if you answer this:

Does Omaha Hi-Lo play similar to double board Omaha bomb pots?

I guess with no ante, but blinds only, it isn't similar in that way. But once the money start going in, do players who think they only have one board go all-in? Is there crazy action?

I'm asking because I love playing bomb pots when they are played every time dealer changes in a game of NL Hold em. I'd love to play a bomb pots only cash game, but I've never found one. Played some Bomb pots only tournaments. Would Omaha Hi-Lo be a good substitute?

It's not like bomb pots because you only have one shared board to make both the high and the low hand not separate boards for each. So five cards total plus the four in your hand for which you must use exactly two.

The theoretical standard"perfect" start hand would be A, A, 2, 2 double suited. However, with Omaha, even the worst to best possible starting hand is no more than 20% favourite pre flop I guess. It's definitely an action game.

Any ace-deuce or ace-three is ok also as you can at least compete for the low (but you will often share the low so you could get quartered in an all in and lose 3/4th of the pot if you split the low but your opponent wins the high outright.

You MUST use two of your hole cards. It can be the same two cards for the high or the low (rare, except of perhaps having the wheel, A-5), but you are forced to use two for each of the high and low.

It's not like Hold 'Em where if I have the ace of clubs on a four club board I would have the high flush, I would have to have two clubs in my hand, even if the entire boards was clubs.

I prefer Omaha Hi myself because there is far less chopping on the low and getting quartered. The one benefit of Hi-Lo is that you might have a decent low but aren't sure, but you know for certain you have high (nut flush on an unpaired board, or quads, something you know based on the texture of the board you cant lose) and you can always pot it and put your opponent in a situation where they might split the low with you but lose the high outright.

Anyways, sorry to go on a tangent. I did the same when discussing Machine Learning a couple of years ago hehe.

 

[X.Onasis]

Please let me know how much of this game you have played if you answer this:

Does Omaha Hi-Lo play similar to double board Omaha bomb pots?

I guess with no ante, but blinds only, it isn't similar in that way. But once the money start going in, do players who think they only have one board go all-in? Is there crazy action?

I'm asking because I love playing bomb pots when they are played every time dealer changes in a game of NL Hold em. I'd love to play a bomb pots only cash game, but I've never found one. Played some Bomb pots only tournaments. Would Omaha Hi-Lo be a good substitute?

Not familiar with playing bomb pots, but when playing HL, generally, split pots are common, but H-L players in the know focus on good low starting hands that could take both H and L, because scooping is key.
There are already commonly split pots with bomb pots because there are two boards.
I suppose after seeing the flops, if there aren't two possible low boards, it might not seem like a good idea to even play.
Does that make sense?

 

[X.Onasis]

The theoretical standard"perfect" start hand would be A, A, 2, 2 double suited.

A, A, 2, 3, double suited

 

[shockedcanadian]

A, A, 2, 3, double suited

Yeah perhaps.

 

[X.Onasis]

Please let me know how much of this game you have played if you answer this:

Does Omaha Hi-Lo play similar to double board Omaha bomb pots?

I guess with no ante, but blinds only, it isn't similar in that way. But once the money start going in, do players who think they only have one board go all-in? Is there crazy action?

Again, I haven't played H-L BP. But I find your question interesting.

Did you find out if there are two boards played? H-L is already about far more action.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Again, I haven't played H-L BP. But I find your question interesting.

Did you find out if there are two boards played? H-L is already about far more action.

There is only one board in Omaha Hi-Lo, but . . . since there are two ways to win each board. That makes me think it might play similar to a double board where it matters what board you are going for.

If you have nuts on the top board and one pair only on the bottom, you may scoop if an opponent has second nuts on the top and a weaker pair on the bottom.

Because Omaha Bomb pots are usually against Hold'em players, they often overvalue hands like two pair and dont want to fold.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Again, I haven't played H-L BP. But I find your question interesting.

Did you find out if there are two boards played? H-L is already about far more action.

There is only one board in Omaha Hi-Lo, but . . . since there are two ways to win each board. That makes me think it might play similar to a double board where it matters what board you are going for.

If you have nuts on the top board and one pair only on the bottom, you may scoop if an opponent has second nuts on the top and a weaker pair on the bottom.

Because Omaha Bomb pots are usually against Hold'em players, they often overvalue hands like two pair and dont want to fold.

It's not like bomb pots because you only have one shared board to make both the high and the low hand not separate boards for each. So five cards total plus the four in your hand for which you must use exactly two.

The theoretical standard"perfect" start hand would be A, A, 2, 2 double suited. However, with Omaha, even the worst to best possible starting hand is no more than 20% favourite pre flop I guess. It's definitely an action game.

Any ace-deuce or ace-three is ok also as you can at least compete for the low (but you will often share the low so you could get quartered in an all in and lose 3/4th of the pot if you split the low but your opponent wins the high outright.

You MUST use two of your hole cards. It can be the same two cards for the high or the low (rare, except of perhaps having the wheel, A-5), but you are forced to use two for each of the high and low.

It's not like Hold 'Em where if I have the ace of clubs on a four club board I would have the high flush, I would have to have two clubs in my hand, even if the entire boards was clubs.

I prefer Omaha Hi myself because there is far less chopping on the low and getting quartered. The one benefit of Hi-Lo is that you might have a decent low but aren't sure, but you know for certain you have high (nut flush on an unpaired board, or quads, something you know based on the texture of the board you cant lose) and you can always pot it and put your opponent in a situation where they might split the low with you but lose the high outright.

Anyways, sorry to go on a tangent. I did the same when discussing Machine Learning a couple of years ago hehe.

Thank you!

Quartering on the low is something I hadnt thought of. I can see that happening frequently and killing my winrate.

 

[X.Onasis]

If there's only one board, then it's just having a large ante and no pre-flop betting.
And also why H-L players just love holdem and high stud players in any other H-L game.
There's more action because players are forced to see a flop before knowing if there's a qualifying low hand possible. And generally, there's more action in H-L games.

 

[Calgon]

Not familiar with playing bomb pots, but when playing HL, generally, split pots are common, but H-L players in the know focus on good low starting hands that could take both H and L, because scooping is key.
There are already commonly split pots with bomb pots because there are two boards.
I suppose after seeing the flops, if there aren't two possible low boards, it might not seem like a good idea to even play.
Does that make sense?

A, A, 2, 3, double suited

Again, I haven't played H-L BP. But I find your question interesting.

Did you find out if there are two boards played? H-L is already about far more action.

If there's only one board, then it's just having a large ante and no pre-flop betting.
And also why H-L players just love holdem and high stud players in any other H-L game.
There's more action because players are forced to see a flop before knowing if there's a qualifying low hand possible. And generally, there's more action in H-L games.

Question. Are you saying this from a Cuban perspective?

 

[Seymour Flops]

If there's only one board, then it's just having a large ante and no pre-flop betting.
And also why H-L players just love holdem and high stud players in any other H-L game.
There's more action because players are forced to see a flop before knowing if there's a qualifying low hand possible. And generally, there's more action in H-L games.

Okay yes.

Bomb pots are not like Omaha, hi-lo.

The preflop action and the blinds instead of large ante, make them much different.

That's why I ask people smarter than me. Thanks!