Qanon shaman...likely to get a new trial considering the government withheld video evidence from the defense....

[Marener]

He's in jail because he pled to a lesser crime, the greater crime probably involving circumstances of violent behavior, which this new video clearly shows wasn't happening.

That's the possible exculpatory evidence.

“Probably”

So you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

 

[Mac1958]

All the prosecution said he did was to be inside the Capitol, illegally disrupting Congress. Anything you think they said beyond that is your own overactive imagination kicking in.

The Trumpsters are siding with the Proud Boys and the Qanon guy.

That about says it all.

 

[The5thHorseman]

Just keep upping my post count, oxygen thief.

If that's your objective, stop dropping dimes...

 

[Faun]

Surprisingly, that’s a more intelligent question from you than your posting history would suggest you have any capacity for. Congratulations.

But let’s flip your question around as the first step in the process of analyzing it.

The better question would be: how do the newly released videos of Shaman-boi demonstrate any crime for which he was charged? Well, it shows that he was inside the Capitol building. It alone doesn’t constitute proof of trespass, but it is still good evidence to consider such charge.

What else was he CHARGED with.

Well, the preliminary arrest charges:

Jacob Anthony Chansley arrested: Jake Angeli Qanon Shaman charged

Jacob Anthony Chansley arrested: Jake Angeli aka Qanon Shaman charged with violent entry and disorderly conduct. Claims did nothing wrong.

scallywagandvagabond.com

Ultimately, he got indicted on:

MAGISTRATE NO. 21-MJ-018
VIOLATIONS:
18 U.S.C. § 231(a)(3)
(Civil Disorder)
18 U.S.C. § 1512{c)(2)
{Obstruction of an Official Proceeding) 18 U.S.C. § l 752(a)(l)
(Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building)
18 U.S.C. § 1752(a)(2)
(Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building)
40 U.S.C. § 5104(e){2){A)
(Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building)
40 U.S.C. § 5104(e)(2)(G)
(Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building)

How the fuck could he have entered violently yet been casually escorted around the Capitol building BY the Capitol Police without them arresting his ass?

Can see the trespass if he wasn’t one of the ones cops didn’t allow in. And we saw evidence of police permitting protestors into the Capitol grounds. Was he allowed in or is there any evidence that he forced his way in? Others clearly did. But did he?

He wasn't charged with violently entering, Welshy. That charge, "Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building," has subsections. He was charged with one of the non-violent subsections.

All the other charges were dropped when he accepted his plea deal.

Guess what happens to all those other charges if he's granted a new trial?

 

[Faun]

Pretending it isn't makes you an SJW hack who probably pees while sitting down.

Lower IQ, idiot, he was convicted because he was illegally inside the Capitol. How is more video of him being inside the Capitol, exculpatory?

 

[Faun]

He's in jail because he pled to a lesser crime, the greater crime probably involving circumstances of violent behavior, which this new video clearly shows wasn't happening.

That's the possible exculpatory evidence.

LOL

You idiot, he did not plead guilty to a lesser crime. Now you reveal to the forum you're arguing this from a position of sheer ignorance.

 

[martybegan]

“Probably”

So you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

The whole point of this is to give the defense information that MIGHT BE exculpatory. If it's PROBABLY exculpatory then not doing it is fucking criminal.

 

[martybegan]

If that's your objective, stop dropping dimes...

Stop responding uselessly fuckwit. Add content, or fuck off.

 

[martybegan]

Lower IQ, idiot, he was convicted because he was illegally inside the Capitol. How is more video of him being inside the Capitol, exculpatory?

He pled to it, and the issue of it being exculpatory applies to the sentencing as well.

 

[BackAgain]

Let's be clear about the fact that your record sucks, mine doesn't.

We can’t be clear about that because it’s another one of your lies. You do obviously suck at this.

'k?

No. You’re an imbecile.

You gotta be kidding me.

Not at all. I didn’t really expect a person of your negligible intelligence to grasp the fact that the government does the accusing and therefore the government has the burden of proof. Your question twists it all around.

So, to reset and perform a valid analysis, we’d need to first see what the video evidence (which hadn’t been turned over to the defense) shows about the charges.

As all of this (as usual) flies miles over your pinhead, please go play in freeway traffic.

 

[Faun]

That's what he pled to, not what they were threatening him with if he didn't plea.

Yes it is, you raving imbecile. He was charged with 6 crimes. He pleaded guilty to count 2, 18 U.S.C. § 1512{c)(2) Obstruction of an Official Proceeding

 

[martybegan]

LOL

You idiot, he did not pleas guilty to a lesser crime. Now you reveal to the forum you're arguing this from a position of sheer ignorance.

You got proof he wasn't threatened with a worse count unless he pled out?

Were you there during plea negotations?

 

[Marener]

The whole point of this is to give the defense information that MIGHT BE exculpatory. If it's PROBABLY exculpatory then not doing it is fucking criminal.

You don’t even know what he was charged with, moron.

 

[martybegan]

Yes it is, you raving imbecile. He was charged with 6 crimes. He pleaded guilty to count 2, 18 U.S.C. § 1512{c)(2) Obstruction of an Official Proceeding

Thanks for making my point. He might not have pled to THAT one if his defense attorney had access to the videos to more firmly refute the other charges. He might have pled down to something even lower.

 

[Faun]

The Trumpsters are siding with the Proud Boys and the Qanon guy.

That about says it all.

^^^ Perfect

 

[martybegan]

You don’t even know what he was charged with, moron.

According to faun 6 charges, pled to one. This just keeps making my point more and more.

The whole point of total discovery allowed to the defense is to allow them all the information needed BEFORE even pleading out to something.

 

[Faun]

He pled to it, and the issue of it being exculpatory applies to the sentencing as well.

You didn't answer the question...


He was convicted because he was illegally inside the Capitol. How is more video of him being inside the Capitol, exculpatory?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

It is exculpatory, and your fetish for detaining your fellow citizens simply for not agreeing with you politically is a pox on this world.

Now go pretend anti-fa doesn't exist.

He should definitely try to use that 4 minutes of video and take it to trial.....those 4 minutes easily overturn the other 39,996 minutes of video........



He should take it to trial and hire the best lawyer his Go-Fund me account can provide....will you please donate?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Yes it is, you raving imbecile. He was charged with 6 crimes. He pleaded guilty to count 2, 18 U.S.C. § 1512{c)(2) Obstruction of an Official Proceeding

Which they can now prove he didn't do..... Damn, this thing is coming back to bit you in the ass hard...

 

[Faun]

You got proof he wasn't threatened with a worse count unless he pled out?

Were you there during plea negotations?

LOL

You ignorantly claimed he pled to a lesser crime. He didn't. He pleaded guilty to the crime he was captured committing on video.

And now you're actually trying to argue that MORE video of him committing that crime could be exculpatory.