Putin's Answer To Obama

[Kondor3]

Why in the world would we miss that putz?

Obama.

That was cold...

Funny...

Accurate...

Sad..., and...

Scary...

I feel sooooooo much safer, with a Community Organizer staring down a bare-knuckles bad-ass like Uncle Vlad...

 

[thereisnospoon]

58 per cent of the Crimeans are Russians, and their Black Sea naval base is there- They didn't invade, they're already there. Remain calm, fear mongered, ignorant Foxbots...

Got a link to that?
It's an invasion. Got that. Mr Uninformed?

 

[georgephillip]

When does it become our business? After Putin gobbles up the Asian break away republics? Perhaps after he takes the southern ones? Maybe we should wait till he invades Poland?

We have a binding treaty with the Ukraine which stipulates if they are invaded we will defend them. So by advocating we do nothing you all support the paper tiger claim. We will prove that at least under Obama we do NOT live up to our treaties. Which means perhaps Putin won't need to invade some Countries, he will just threaten them and knowing no one will help they will fold.

The message we send to our allies and our enemies is that we have not got the ability, the strength of will or resolve to uphold our treaties. This will embolden more then Russia. China sees our inaction and our refusal to defend an ally. They already want Taiwan and the South Pacific. It emboldens them to use force for what they want because they will assume the US won't actually act.

Our allies in the Pacific will know we failed to act and will be less likely to depend on our treaties with them as well.

Great plan. We are on the road to war if we do not act. Better to test Putin now then later. Now he may blink later he will have had so many successes he simply will not believe we would do anything. As will China.

What if nobody blinks?

"A treaty signed in 1994 by the US and Britain could pull both countries into a war to protect Ukraine if President Putin's troops cross into the country.

"Bill Clinton, John Major, Boris Yeltsin and Leonid Kuchma – the then-rulers of the USA, UK, Russia and Ukraine - agreed to the The Budapest Memorandum as part of the denuclearization of former Soviet republics after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

"Technically it means that if Russia has invaded Ukraine then it would be difficult for the US and Britain to avoid going to war.

"The revelation comes as reports suggest the Kremlin was moving up to 2,000 troops across the Black Sea from Novorossiysk to their fleet base at Sevastopol.

"At least 20 men wearing the uniform of the Russian fleet and carrying automatic rifles surrounded a Ukrainian border guard post in a standoff near the port yesterday.

Treaty would mean 'British war with Russia' if Putin's troops intervene in Ukraine | Mail Online

Are you planning to pay for our defense of Ukrainian "democracy" by raising taxes or by more borrowing?

 

[Trajan]

look, seriously, we ain't goin' no where and neither is nato....

Kerry should really just shut up now. NO ONE is buying it....

John Kerry: ?All Options on the Table? to Hold Russia Accountable in Ukraine - ABC News

 

[jon_berzerk]

When does it become our business? After Putin gobbles up the Asian break away republics? Perhaps after he takes the southern ones? Maybe we should wait till he invades Poland?

We have a binding treaty with the Ukraine which stipulates if they are invaded we will defend them. So by advocating we do nothing you all support the paper tiger claim. We will prove that at least under Obama we do NOT live up to our treaties. Which means perhaps Putin won't need to invade some Countries, he will just threaten them and knowing no one will help they will fold.

The message we send to our allies and our enemies is that we have not got the ability, the strength of will or resolve to uphold our treaties. This will embolden more then Russia. China sees our inaction and our refusal to defend an ally. They already want Taiwan and the South Pacific. It emboldens them to use force for what they want because they will assume the US won't actually act.

Our allies in the Pacific will know we failed to act and will be less likely to depend on our treaties with them as well.

Great plan. We are on the road to war if we do not act. Better to test Putin now then later. Now he may blink later he will have had so many successes he simply will not believe we would do anything. As will China.

What if nobody blinks?

"A treaty signed in 1994 by the US and Britain could pull both countries into a war to protect Ukraine if President Putin's troops cross into the country.

"Bill Clinton, John Major, Boris Yeltsin and Leonid Kuchma – the then-rulers of the USA, UK, Russia and Ukraine - agreed to the The Budapest Memorandum as part of the denuclearization of former Soviet republics after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

"Technically it means that if Russia has invaded Ukraine then it would be difficult for the US and Britain to avoid going to war.

"The revelation comes as reports suggest the Kremlin was moving up to 2,000 troops across the Black Sea from Novorossiysk to their fleet base at Sevastopol.

"At least 20 men wearing the uniform of the Russian fleet and carrying automatic rifles surrounded a Ukrainian border guard post in a standoff near the port yesterday.

Treaty would mean 'British war with Russia' if Putin's troops intervene in Ukraine | Mail Online

Are you planning to pay for our defense of Ukrainian "democracy" by raising taxes or by more borrowing?

according to the memorandum

i do not believe we are obligated to intervene


The Budapest
Memorandum of 1994
http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2014/2014_1-9/2014-08/pdf/34-35_4108.pdf

 

[georgephillip]

When does it become our business? After Putin gobbles up the Asian break away republics? Perhaps after he takes the southern ones? Maybe we should wait till he invades Poland?

We have a binding treaty with the Ukraine which stipulates if they are invaded we will defend them. So by advocating we do nothing you all support the paper tiger claim. We will prove that at least under Obama we do NOT live up to our treaties. Which means perhaps Putin won't need to invade some Countries, he will just threaten them and knowing no one will help they will fold.

The message we send to our allies and our enemies is that we have not got the ability, the strength of will or resolve to uphold our treaties. This will embolden more then Russia. China sees our inaction and our refusal to defend an ally. They already want Taiwan and the South Pacific. It emboldens them to use force for what they want because they will assume the US won't actually act.

Our allies in the Pacific will know we failed to act and will be less likely to depend on our treaties with them as well.

Great plan. We are on the road to war if we do not act. Better to test Putin now then later. Now he may blink later he will have had so many successes he simply will not believe we would do anything. As will China.

What if nobody blinks?

"A treaty signed in 1994 by the US and Britain could pull both countries into a war to protect Ukraine if President Putin's troops cross into the country.

"Bill Clinton, John Major, Boris Yeltsin and Leonid Kuchma – the then-rulers of the USA, UK, Russia and Ukraine - agreed to the The Budapest Memorandum as part of the denuclearization of former Soviet republics after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

"Technically it means that if Russia has invaded Ukraine then it would be difficult for the US and Britain to avoid going to war.

"The revelation comes as reports suggest the Kremlin was moving up to 2,000 troops across the Black Sea from Novorossiysk to their fleet base at Sevastopol.

"At least 20 men wearing the uniform of the Russian fleet and carrying automatic rifles surrounded a Ukrainian border guard post in a standoff near the port yesterday.

Treaty would mean 'British war with Russia' if Putin's troops intervene in Ukraine | Mail Online

Are you planning to pay for our defense of Ukrainian "democracy" by raising taxes or by more borrowing?

according to the memorandum

i do not believe we are obligated to intervene


The Budapest
Memorandum of 1994
http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2014/2014_1-9/2014-08/pdf/34-35_4108.pdf

It appears this document doesn't qualify as a treaty and provides wide latitude for interpretation:

"The agreement promises to protest Ukraine's borders in return for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons.

"It is not a formal treaty, but rather, a diplomatic document.

"It was an unprecedented case in contemporary international life and international law.

"Whether is it legally binding in complex.

"'It is binding in international law, but that doesn't mean it has any means of enforcement,' says Barry Kellman is a professor of law and director of the International Weapons Control Center at DePaul University's College of Law told Radio Free Europe.

Treaty would mean 'British war with Russia' if Putin's troops intervene in Ukraine | Mail Online

Hopefully, the Ukrainians will decide their own collective fate at the ballot box and not in a war that could spin out of control.

 

[georgephillip]

US and EU politics do not want to understand some facts:
- Russia doesn't want to look badly for all other countries and trying to move carefully as everyone in the world still think about Russia as about USSR;
- Russia is not building newUSSR, but is trying to rise its economy which was deeply mixed with the economy of former soviet republics. When EU joins other countries it is called integration, but when Russia does the same it is called building of terrible Russian Empire;
- Ukraine and Russia - is the only nation which was divided by politic affairs about 150 years ago. We still do not know how to identify if you are russian or ukranian... Thousands of families live partially in Ukrain and Russia. As a result we'll never fight to each other.

EU and USA are in war against Russia. Information war. A lot of false information about Russia in american mass media.

There also appears to be a lack of relevant information in the US press concerning the recent coup in Kiev:

"When Ukrainian nationalists and far-right groups began protesting against Viktor Yanukovych’s government on Kiev’s Maidan Square, many Western and Russian media outlets called the demonstrations fascist with anti-Semitic undertones. Armed and masked protesters brandished nationalist symbols linked with the fascism of yesteryear.

"This included the Celtic cross, which has replaced the swastika for many modern white-power groups, and the wolf-hook SS insignia.

"There was also the symbol 14/88.

"The 14 represents a 14-word slogan used by white nationalists, and the 88 stands for 'Heil Hitler' – H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.

"Finally, there was the Black Sun occult symbol, with which the Third Reich adorned a castle hall."

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[RoadVirus]

Mr Abbott said he understands the issue will be discussed "urgently" by the members of the United Nations Security Council, including Australia.

The UN's response oughta be as hilarious as Obama's response.

The UN might decide to blockade Russia...which won't be a laughing matter for it.

What a load of bullshit. The UN will send Putin a strongly worded letter telling him "to not do it again" and that will be the end of it. The UN is nothing but an organization of pussies.

 

[Katzndogz]

The Ukraine hasn't been invaded. This is essentially a civil war for which treaties are ineffective. If we go there, the most hostile force we will encounter will be the Ukranians themselves.

 

[History]

I couldn't say I blame Putin for showing the world what a coward Obama really is and putting him in his place haha

 

[Roudy]

I couldn't say I blame Putin for showing the world what a coward Obama really is and putting him in his place haha

Exactly, Putin is doing what any smart leader would do, exploiting a perceived weakness he sees in US leadership. Had there been another person but Obama at the helm, Putin wouldn't even think of it.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Mr Abbott said he understands the issue will be discussed "urgently" by the members of the United Nations Security Council, including Australia.

The UN's response oughta be as hilarious as Obama's response.

The UN might decide to blockade Russia...which won't be a laughing matter for it.

that is not going to happen

 

[jon_berzerk]

58 per cent of the Crimeans are Russians, and their Black Sea naval base is there- They didn't invade, they're already there. Remain calm, fear mongered, ignorant Foxbots...

the Rusisians have much more then just the Black sea fleet there are numerous bases

in Crimea area

 

[Katzndogz]

The UN might decide to offer aid to Crimea, like they did in Haiti. Or, like they are doing in Africa.

 

[Kondor3]

The Ukrainians should never have given back those war-assets, and should have kicked the Russians out of those bases for good, when the Soviet Union fell in the early 1990s.

Waaaayyy too late now.

 

[bianco]

Well.....at 3.30am today Sydney time, Michael rang Sydney's no1 radio station and said;

para; "What's now happening in Ukraine is really a US-Arab bloc v Russia fight over gas exports to Europe.
The US is also trying to neutralise Venezuela that has the largest gas reserves in the world."

Lucky I awoke early today and switced on the radio, eh? or I could still be in the dark.