Putin just told Trump that he has wasted half a year

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"Putin tells Trump he won't back down from goals in Ukraine, Kremlin says"

It was obvious to all, but Trump, apparently, that Putin was never going to give up, unless he was forced to.

And Trump went along with Putin's Machiavellian script for 6 months. Trump was never going to get peace, unless it involves Russia controlling the whole of the Ukraine. But Trump wasn't smart enough to figure it out.

Xi tried to get peace, did Trump even take notice of this? Probably not. When your "best friend" fails, why would Trump succeed?
 

"Putin tells Trump he won't back down from goals in Ukraine, Kremlin says"

It was obvious to all, but Trump, apparently, that Putin was never going to give up, unless he was forced to.

And Trump went along with Putin's Machiavellian script for 6 months. Trump was never going to get peace, unless it involves Russia controlling the whole of the Ukraine. But Trump wasn't smart enough to figure it out.

Xi tried to get peace, did Trump even take notice of this? Probably not. When your "best friend" fails, why would Trump succeed?
Hey stupid. There’s another dirty water puddle of Putin propaganda over —-> there.

Get over there and lap it up greedily, as is your habit.
 

"Putin tells Trump he won't back down from goals in Ukraine, Kremlin says"

It was obvious to all, but Trump, apparently, that Putin was never going to give up, unless he was forced to.

And Trump went along with Putin's Machiavellian script for 6 months. Trump was never going to get peace, unless it involves Russia controlling the whole of the Ukraine. But Trump wasn't smart enough to figure it out.

Xi tried to get peace, did Trump even take notice of this? Probably not. When your "best friend" fails, why would Trump succeed?
Your hero Xi didn't do shit. And what did you want Trump to do, drop a MOAB on the Kremlin? How do you reason with a PsychoPath hell bent on his obsession? Let's hear the answer. :dunno:
 

"Putin tells Trump he won't back down from goals in Ukraine, Kremlin says"

It was obvious to all, but Trump, apparently, that Putin was never going to give up, unless he was forced to.

And Trump went along with Putin's Machiavellian script for 6 months. Trump was never going to get peace, unless it involves Russia controlling the whole of the Ukraine. But Trump wasn't smart enough to figure it out.

Xi tried to get peace, did Trump even take notice of this? Probably not. When your "best friend" fails, why would Trump succeed?
The E.U have to pony up money, weapons.and soldiers. That is the only way Russia will back down. Based on the lack of patriotism in the E.U they would be hard pressed to defend their own borders let alone Ukraines.
 
Even if we do cut funding, it's worth debating how long the U.S. is to be expected to finance this ongoing war.

While Ukraine is certainly 100 times more worthy of military aid than Israel is, we have no binding commitment to fund this without pause. Ukraine is surely actively seeking support from elsewhere.
 
And Trump went along with Putin's Machiavellian script for 6 months. Trump was never going to get peace, unless it involves Russia controlling the whole of the Ukraine. But Trump wasn't smart enough to figure it out.

Xi tried to get peace, did Trump even take notice of this? Probably not. When your "best friend" fails, why would Trump succeed?
All fair points. And true.
 
Your hero Xi didn't do shit. And what did you want Trump to do, drop a MOAB on the Kremlin? How do you reason with a PsychoPath hell bent on his obsession? Let's hear the answer. :dunno:
Can you get through a post without talking bullshit? Xi is not my hero, you know that, but you have to make your posts about emotion because you don't want to look at reality.
 
The E.U have to pony up money, weapons.and soldiers. That is the only way Russia will back down. Based on the lack of patriotism in the E.U they would be hard pressed to defend their own borders let alone Ukraines.

To be honest, had the EU wanted to do something, they could have gone in and kicked Russia's ass. The problem with the EU is that you have countries like Hungary, Slovakia etc who are pro-Russian.
 
Even if we do cut funding, it's worth debating how long the U.S. is to be expected to finance this ongoing war.

While Ukraine is certainly 100 times more worthy of military aid than Israel is, we have no binding commitment to fund this without pause. Ukraine is surely actively seeking support from elsewhere.

It depends on what the US's long term strategy is. Oh, wait, the US's strategy is only 3 1/2 years long and involves giving Putin whatever he wants.
 
To be honest, had the EU wanted to do something, they could have gone in and kicked Russia's ass. The problem with the EU is that you have countries like Hungary, Slovakia etc who are pro-Russian.
Putin may have been given his task from China to get the U.S further attached to Ukraine so China can attack Taiwan. Whatever Putin would ask from China for keeping the U.S.entangled would surely be granted. China desperately wants to unify Taiwan. Being so bold in stating "we arent leaving Ukraine" is an odd decision by Putin unless he knows that China.and N Korea.will happily send him soldiers in exchange. The West must decouple, believe this, our existence depends on this. The WTO must also be replaced and China not invited.
 
Putin may have been given his task from China to get the U.S further attached to Ukraine so China can attack Taiwan. Whatever Putin would ask from China for keeping the U.S.entangled would surely be granted. China desperately wants to unify Taiwan. Being so bold in stating "we arent leaving Ukraine" is an odd decision by Putin unless he knows that China.and N Korea.will happily send him soldiers in exchange. The West must decouple, believe this, our existence depends on this. The WTO must also be replaced and China not invited.

No, Putin made it very clear that he's not going to listen to Xi on this.

Xi went to Putin and said "we want peace in the Ukraine", Putin gave him the middle finger. For Xi to have done that so publicly, and then to get nothing from it, was humiliating. Literally the Chinese people could see Xi going for it, and expecting him to succeed, and he didn't. And Xi has suffered because of this.
 

"Putin tells Trump he won't back down from goals in Ukraine, Kremli
The E.U have to pony up money, weapons.and soldiers. That is the only way Russia will back down. Based on the lack of patriotism in the E.U they would be hard pressed to defend their own borders let alone Ukraines.
Europe is rapidly becoming a bunch of aging gen x'ers with no children. How the hell are they going to fight a war with boots on the ground?
 

"Putin tells Trump he won't back down from goals in Ukraine, Kremlin says"

It was obvious to all, but Trump, apparently, that Putin was never going to give up, unless he was forced to.

And Trump went along with Putin's Machiavellian script for 6 months. Trump was never going to get peace, unless it involves Russia controlling the whole of the Ukraine. But Trump wasn't smart enough to figure it out.

Xi tried to get peace, did Trump even take notice of this? Probably not. When your "best friend" fails, why would Trump succeed?
Putin does not want “all of Ukraine” just the Russian portion east of the Dneiper. The rest must stay neutral and NEVER join NATO.
 
Ukraine is where the Globalists want to kill off every last French, German and British white male
 
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Putin just told Trump that he has wasted half a year​


Well, that would not surprise me at this point. I mean, it isn't like it is still 2021 or even 2022 when this might have been more easily fixed, but 2022, 2023 and 2024 all passed without Buttwipe Biden doing anything but inflaming things and now, well into 2025, Putin may have too much committed to come out of this with anything less than all he wanted, especially when he surely knows he can survive our sanctions, has the backs of the Chinese and Norks, and America's heart (and pocketbook) just aren't in it anymore.
 

"Putin tells Trump he won't back down from goals in Ukraine, Kremlin says"

It was obvious to all, but Trump, apparently, that Putin was never going to give up, unless he was forced to.

And Trump went along with Putin's Machiavellian script for 6 months. Trump was never going to get peace, unless it involves Russia controlling the whole of the Ukraine. But Trump wasn't smart enough to figure it out.

Xi tried to get peace, did Trump even take notice of this? Probably not. When your "best friend" fails, why would Trump succeed?


So Trump had patience for 6 months, hoping Russia will come around. What did you want? bombs dropped? Hey Biden had three years so lets take another account of the situation in another year. It wasnt Trumps mess to begin with.
 
They use to be one nation or union if you will.... Ukraine was never part of NATO for a reason... its because 1/3rd of the nation is former Russian... they travel into Russia for work every day or they did before the war... now because of Beach party Biden who did nothing millions are dead... you can't stop that kind of hate and vengeance from here... sadly we just have to let them fight it out...
 
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