Putin, heir to the Mongol Grand Khans. it is so difficult for Muscovites to learn to be free; they always need a strong hand to rule them.

...human nature [ and common sense ] to see foreigners as enemies .......

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by CJ Halperin · ‎1982 · ‎Cited by 14 · ‎Related articles
Moscow, the grand principality,. Rus1, was the tsarev ulus, the ulus of the khan,(7) the grand ... unlikely to have imagined but which reflects the Muscovite book ...
..what for? what's the point? ...foreigners ARE bad

The point is Litwin has IQ-10

this is why I think Litwin in not a Jew but a Ukrainian :)

all that Mongol narrative is common to Ukrainian Nazis, not Jews...
 
...human nature [ and common sense ] to see foreigners as enemies .......

free book for you
Tsarev ulus: Russia in the Golden Horde - JStor
www.jstor.org › stable




by CJ Halperin · ‎1982 · ‎Cited by 14 · ‎Related articles
Moscow, the grand principality,. Rus1, was the tsarev ulus, the ulus of the khan,(7) the grand ... unlikely to have imagined but which reflects the Muscovite book ...
..what for? what's the point? ...foreigners ARE bad

The point is Litwin has IQ-10

this is why I think Litwin in not a Jew but a Ukrainian :)

all that Mongol narrative is common to Ukrainian Nazis, not Jews...
Yes, but he use very outdated Ukrainian narrative. It's not in fashion even in Ukraine now. That's why I think, that he is a Brit. May be - a Brit with not-European origin, recently migrated in the UK.
 
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J. Halperin 'Muscovy and the Golden Horde', Indiana University Press, Bloomington, 1987


http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/catalog/pro...oducts_id=21458


(page .92):


... the language of the Muscovite bureacracy was kind of meta-Turkic, a hyperliteral calque of Turco-Tatar formulae and forms which is often linguistically meaningless without recourse to the Tatar originals. Supposedly Muscovite bureaucratic paper followed Mongol formats. 12. All bureacratic language is stylized, of course, but there is no question of the awkwardness and obscurity of Muscovite bureaucratic jargon. As yet the evidence that is syntactical, morphological, and lexical features derive from Turco-Tatar models remains suggestive rather than conclusive, but the connection is worthy of further research. Since the chancellery language of the Golden Horrde was Turkic written in Uighur script, it might be fruitful to explore the dessimination of Uighur script among Russian scribes...
."
 
"

J. Halperin 'Muscovy and the Golden Horde', Indiana University Press, Bloomington, 1987


http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/catalog/pro...oducts_id=21458


(page .92):


... the language of the Muscovite bureacracy was kind of meta-Turkic, a hyperliteral calque of Turco-Tatar formulae and forms which is often linguistically meaningless without recourse to the Tatar originals. Supposedly Muscovite bureaucratic paper followed Mongol formats. 12. All bureacratic language is stylized, of course, but there is no question of the awkwardness and obscurity of Muscovite bureaucratic jargon. As yet the evidence that is syntactical, morphological, and lexical features derive from Turco-Tatar models remains suggestive rather than conclusive, but the connection is worthy of further research. Since the chancellery language of the Golden Horrde was Turkic written in Uighur script, it might be fruitful to explore the dessimination of Uighur script among Russian scribes...
."
Really not. Bureaucratic language of pre-Peter Russia was Church-slavonic, then it became more of French and German, and of course, French-infuenced Russian.
And yes, Mongolian language is not Turkish one.
 
"

J. Halperin 'Muscovy and the Golden Horde', Indiana University Press, Bloomington, 1987


http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/catalog/pro...oducts_id=21458


(page .92):


... the language of the Muscovite bureacracy was kind of meta-Turkic, a hyperliteral calque of Turco-Tatar formulae and forms which is often linguistically meaningless without recourse to the Tatar originals. Supposedly Muscovite bureaucratic paper followed Mongol formats. 12. All bureacratic language is stylized, of course, but there is no question of the awkwardness and obscurity of Muscovite bureaucratic jargon. As yet the evidence that is syntactical, morphological, and lexical features derive from Turco-Tatar models remains suggestive rather than conclusive, but the connection is worthy of further research. Since the chancellery language of the Golden Horrde was Turkic written in Uighur script, it might be fruitful to explore the dessimination of Uighur script among Russian scribes...
."
Really not. Bureaucratic language of pre-Peter Russia was Church-slavonic, then it became more of French and German, and of course, French-infuenced Russian.
And yes, Mongolian language is not Turkish one.
a good post still at least 3 errors

1) we talk about grand mongols not modern Mongolia


...It has been suggested that the language of the Muscovite bureacracy was kind of meta-Turkic, a hyperliteral calque of Turco-Tatar formulae and forms which is often linguistically meaningless without recourse to the Tatar originals. Supposedly Muscovite bureaucratic paper followed Mongol formats. 12. All bureacratic language is stylized, of course, but there is no question of the awkwardness and obscurity of Muscovite bureaucratic jargon. As yet the evidence that is syntactical, morphological, and lexical features derive from Turco-Tatar models remains suggestive rather than conclusive, but the connection is worthy of further research. Since the chancellery language of the Golden Horrde was Turkic written in Uighur script, it might be fruitful to explore the dessimination of Uighur script among Muscovite scribes... "


2) not "Church-slavonic", but old Bulgarian

3) not pre-Peter Muscovy , but pre - Pushkin (who brought into old - Bulgarian , french and German constructions) , not my just words all word academics but even your MGU. still even today if you speak high Muscovite language you speak a Muscovite form (4 times reformed) Mongol state language, cos you are right here, old Bulgarian had official status in Juchi Ulus , which had 4 official languages , but still " the language of the Muscovite bureacracy was kind of meta-Turkic"
 

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