Protestors Chant "Free The Dogs!" At Beagle Breeding Facility

[Carl in Michigan]

Lara Trump was involved with helping to get 1500 of the beagles released. Credit where it's due, I applaud her for her part in this!




Here are some of the rescued beagles:

Some of what we do to these animals

Vivisection is the practice of performing surgical operations, incisions, or painful experiments on living animals for scientific, physiological, or medical research. Often used by opponents to denote cruel animal experimentation, it involves live subjects—sometimes without anesthesia—to investigate living tissue, though modern regulations generally require pain relief.Usage Examples & ContextsScientific Experimentation: Researchers boring holes into the skulls of animals, injecting toxins into brains, or studying organs while an animal is alive.Historical Procedures: Early physiologists, such as Magendie, using conscious puppies to study anatomy.Medical Research: Historical use in studying circulation, digestion, and nerve function by dissecting live subjects

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I'm sure that the overlooked (slaughtered) children would agree that it's a good thing the "doggies" were saved.

At least.

WHAT is the subject of THIS thread?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Donald Trump: greatest animal welfare President

In 2019, President Trump signed the bipartisan Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture (PACT) Act into law, making certain intentional acts of animal cruelty a federal felony. The law prohibits crushing, burning, drowning, suffocating, or impaling animals, with violators facing up to seven years in prison.Key details of the PACT Act include:Federal Jurisdiction: It allows federal prosecution for horrific acts of abuse, especially those crossing state lines or occurring on federal property.Scope: It bans "animal crush videos" and expands on a 2010 law that only targeted the creation of such videos, not the underlying abuse.Exceptions: The law does not apply to customary, agricultural, or hunting practices.Support: It was supported by law enforcement (National Sheriffs' Association) and animal welfare groups.Additionally, in 2025-2026, the administration initiated increased coordination between the USDA, DOJ, and DHS to enforce the PACT Act and target issues like dog fighting and illegal importation

 

[ChristisKing]

I fail to understand why caring about dogs means that you don't care about babies?

 

[Chuz Life]

I fail to understand why caring about dogs means that you don't care about babies?

The answer to that point is in the question I asked. . .

Priorities.

"How many abortion clinics did the protestors pass on their way to "save the puppies?"

I love puppies too. . . I don't think I can or could justify driving past an abortion clinic to join a rally to "save puppies" though.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The subject of THIS thread did not take place in a ******* vacuum.

Hypocrisy is REAL and noticeable.

That is why I reacted to it.

Deal with it or cry moar!

You're DERAILING a thread with your own obsession.

Normal people can have multiple concerns. This thread is about the rescue of BEAGLES. If you can't contribute, start your own thread. Your hijacking someone else's thread for your own pet cause

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Deal with it or cry moar!

I just dealt with it. Reported

 

[ChristisKing]

The answer to that point is in the question I asked. . .

Priorities.

"How many abortion clinics did the protestors pass on their way to "save the puppies?"

I love puppies too. . . I don't think I can or could justify driving past an abortion clinic to join a rally to "save puppies" though.

Okay but this thread isn't about abortion.

 

[ChristisKing]

The answer to that point is in the question I asked. . .

Priorities.

"How many abortion clinics did the protestors pass on their way to "save the puppies?"

I love puppies too. . . I don't think I can or could justify driving past an abortion clinic to join a rally to "save puppies" though.

Who says that anybody was driving past an abortion clinic in the first place?

 

[buttercup]

It's not derailing a thread to point out contradictions, biases, and hypocrisies.

I'm just holding a mirror so others can see the same duality that I see.

You're employing a logical fallacy. The tu quoque fallacy, or "whataboutism." It's as if it never occurred to you that one can care about animal cruelty AND innocent human life. Like me, for example. I'm pro-life and an animal advocate / vegan. Same with Carl. But even if some people don't share our pro-life view, that doesn't negate the wrongness of the abuse and torture of beagles. So it's irrelevant and just a red herring.

So unless you want to address the actual topic, start your own thread.

 

[Chuz Life]

Who says that anybody was driving past an abortion clinic in the first place?

Would that negate the point I was raising?

I wonder how many here supported Obama's and Biden's policies on going after sidewalk protestors for protesting in front of clinics?

I wonder how a "chuz life" waving guy like me would have been treated, had I made my way to the save the puppy rally?

Judging by the reception here. . . not very well, it seems.

 

[Chuz Life]

You're employing a logical fallacy. The tu quoque fallacy, or "whataboutism." It's as if it never occurred to you that one can care about animal cruelty AND innocent human life. Like me, for example. I'm pro-life and an animal advocate / vegan. Same with Carl. But even if some people don't share our pro-life view, that doesn't negate the wrongness of the abuse and torture of beagles. So it's irrelevant and just a red herring.

So unless you want to address the actual topic, start your own thread.

If you are anti-abortion and pro-life, then you of all people should see the point I was (and am) making about those who have empathy for the puppies. . . but none for a child in the womb.

 

[buttercup]

If you are anti-abortion and pro-life, then you of all people should see the point I was (and am) making about those who have empathy for the puppies. . . but none for a child in the womb.

I saw the point you were trying to make, and it's a classic logical fallacy. I'm not going to go through it all again, you can re-read my previous post.

 

[ChristisKing]

Sorry.

Did I use too many big words?

I just don't get why you're saying that you would be mistreated at a protest for trying to save the dogs. It sounds like you're just here to troll but I don't understand why because I usually like you.

 

[Chuz Life]

I just don't get why you're saying that you would be mistreated at a protest for trying to save the dogs. It sounds like you're just here to troll but I don't understand why because I usually like you.

You guys are triggered (intentionally, I think) to dismiss or ignore the point I was making.

The protesters at this puppy rally are being celebrated for "saving a bunch of puppies."

YAY!! I ******* love puppies!!!!

However, if those same protestors showed up in front of an abortion clinic. . . same ******* empathy and all. They, in many cases, would be JAILED!

And as an additional fact, a certain percentage of those at the puppy protest would SUPPORT jailing the same kind of protest by any anti-aborts.

I'm not going to apologize for seeing and noting the hypocrisy in that.

 

[ChristisKing]

You guys are triggered (intentionally, I think) to dismiss or ignore the point I was making.

The protesters at this puppy rally are being celebrated for "saving a bunch of puppies."

YAY!! I ******* love puppies!!!!

However, if those same protestors showed up in front of an abortion clinic. . . same ******* empathy and all. They, in many cases, would be JAILED!

And as an additional fact, a certain percentage of those at the puppy protest would SUPPORT jailing the same kind of protest by any anti-aborts.

I'm not going to apologize for seeing and noting the hypocrisy in that.

Oh well then why didn't you just say so?

 

[ChristisKing]

I did.

But you and the others got triggered before you gave it any thought.

This is the first time that you actually explained what you were talking about as it sounded like you just assumed that you can't be pro-life and for animal rights as well.

 

[Chuz Life]

This is the first time that you actually explained what you were talking about as it sounded like you just assumed that you can't be pro-life and for animal rights as well.

That is a connection you made in your own head.

I never suggested that and certainly never said such as thing.

 

[ChristisKing]

That is a connection you made in your own head.

I never suggested that and certainly never said such as thing.

Well I definitely wasn't triggered. I just didn't understand where you were coming from was all.

 

[initforme]

If you are anti-abortion and pro-life, then you of all people should see the point I was (and am) making about those who have empathy for the puppies. . . but none for a child in the womb.

Puppies carry equal weight.