Prophecies that fail?

[shimon]

All the writers of the NT were self appointed prophets with no formal training in Rabbinical studies, & with no fulfillment of what a prophet is.
FAILED END-OF-THE-WORLD PREDICTIONS WHICH WERE TO OCCUR BEFORE 1998 From 30-90 ad the gospels recorded many failed predictions of end times:
Matthew 16:28: "...there shall be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." Since the life expectancy in those days was little over 30 years, Jesus predicted his second coming sometime during the 1st century CE. It didn't happen. more failed end time rants can be found
in (I Cor. 10:11 -KJV) (Heb. 1:2 -KJV)
(I Peter 1:20 -KJV) (I Peter 4:7 -KJV)
(1 John 2:15-17) (I John 2:18 -KJV) Remember you can't claim the kingdom to come before the disciples deaths and then fail to deliver if you want to be considered a prophet of G-d.
You can't claim to be Messiah if you can't liberate or deliver your people instead you cause them to scatter and be slain, that's not a savior or good shepherd that's the result of false cult leaders through the ages.
Prophecy has to be accurate in fulfillment for it to be legit then when the Bible in
Dan 12:1-4 says Michael will rise at this time to DELIVER the people then the person has to be Michael and not Jim not Joe and Not Jesus.

The name Michael is pronounced Michelle. Which means Equal to God, or the son of God. In the verse Matthew 26:63 , that it says what is the meaning of the word Messiah. Somehow the word had gotten misunderstood over time while being in captivity. And especially Nero had destroyed all of their history books. But some prophets had ran and hide in the hills, living in caves like John the Baptist. They had kept copies of some of the scrolls. Some were rewritten, and which it were the scribes responsibility to memorized the originals and rewrite them exactly the way they were printed.
When Jesus was on the cross. He shouted out Eli, Eli. and which the Jews couldn't make out what he was saying. That it sound as if Jesus was the only one that know how to speak the old language. They had thought that He was calling out to Elijah. But it says that the Messiah must come from the seed of Abraham, and which Jesus genealogy shows that He is a direct descendant, and was able to speak that language. You can tell what language that the Jews of those times were speaking. Is by their names that shows. Like James is the Greek word for Jacob (Yahkob) and Jesus is Joshua (Yahshua). They never had Israelite's names.

Michael [N] [E]

(who is like God? )

Matthew 26:63 But Jesus remained silent. The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.”

John 5:18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

1)The ancient Hebrew
Y is pronunciated as an H just as in Spanish J is pronounced as an H.
That is why the book of Joshua is called Hoshea. Yashua can be pronounced either
Hashua or Hasheva.
It can be a name or a description thus confused for a name.
2) There was no christ named Yashua the closest was Yeshu son of Mary of 100bc.
who's Rabbi mentor was YoHoshua.
He died by stoning and hanging on a tree not crucifixion.
3) the crucified christs were Yehuda the Galilean died in 6bc(tax revolter) and the AD era revolter who's apostles were martyrs called Theudas by the Jordan river
died 45 ad. Yehuda and Theudas are mentioned in book of Acts, but mistakenly swaped for who died first. Yehuda is mentioned in Josephus, but Jesus is placed in out of context during later copies around the time of the great forger liar Eusebius.

In other words when Rome created the new one world religion under their authority, they appeased all messianic cults and mythologies and religions by creating a compiled character as an image of a man deemed perfect-Ezekiel 28 warning about the fallen false prophet dying by the hands of the 'sea'(Rome) for claim8ng to be a god, and being a
"created image of a man" deemed :
Anointed(christ) guardian (nazarene)
-Ezekiel 28:14
and perfect (sinless)-Ezekiel 28:15

Yes they created their image of a man and placed him/ their image in as many verses in the Jewish scriptures as they could...That is why it I find it incredibly humorous when they use Psalm 22 because at the top of the Psalm it is directed to The leader of Shahar or the Hind of the Dawn/ MorningStar/ Lucifer by placing their created image Jesus there they are telling us that this fallen one is their leader.It is actually quite humorous.....This proves many things..One they are deceptive, Two they can't understand or read the original concepts.Three they prey on the guliable or people who are not educated. There are many other things that could be pointed out but people should on their own question these beliefs and figure things out for themselves ESP in today's times when information is so readily availiable to all who desire it....

 

[BulletProof]

There has been no time in earth's history where there was a land bridge from the Middle East to Australia. Please try again.

Given how shallow the sea is between Australia and Asia, it's very realistic that an ice age could have allowed passage for land animals to Australia. Try another objection.

As for the temple you mention, lots of temples were destroyed over and over, nothing special there

There's only one temple Jesus pointed to. Both Danial and Jesus gave details about how and when it would be destroyed. And, history followed their prophesies. Don't be such a sad cave-dweller and face fact.

 

[Mudda]

There has been no time in earth's history where there was a land bridge from the Middle East to Australia. Please try again.

Given how shallow the sea is between Australia and Asia, it's very realistic that an ice age could have allowed passage for land animals to Australia. Try another objection.

As for the temple you mention, lots of temples were destroyed over and over, nothing special there

There's only one temple Jesus pointed to. Both Danial and Jesus gave details about how and when it would be destroyed. And, history followed their prophesies. Don't be such a sad cave-dweller and face fact.

There's no geologic proof that a land bridge has ever appeared betweeen Australia and the Middle East.

"Face facts",lol. If only you had some real facts...

 

[Aletheia4u]

All the writers of the NT were self appointed prophets with no formal training in Rabbinical studies, & with no fulfillment of what a prophet is.
FAILED END-OF-THE-WORLD PREDICTIONS WHICH WERE TO OCCUR BEFORE 1998 From 30-90 ad the gospels recorded many failed predictions of end times:
Matthew 16:28: "...there shall be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." Since the life expectancy in those days was little over 30 years, Jesus predicted his second coming sometime during the 1st century CE. It didn't happen. more failed end time rants can be found
in (I Cor. 10:11 -KJV) (Heb. 1:2 -KJV)
(I Peter 1:20 -KJV) (I Peter 4:7 -KJV)
(1 John 2:15-17) (I John 2:18 -KJV) Remember you can't claim the kingdom to come before the disciples deaths and then fail to deliver if you want to be considered a prophet of G-d.
You can't claim to be Messiah if you can't liberate or deliver your people instead you cause them to scatter and be slain, that's not a savior or good shepherd that's the result of false cult leaders through the ages.
Prophecy has to be accurate in fulfillment for it to be legit then when the Bible in
Dan 12:1-4 says Michael will rise at this time to DELIVER the people then the person has to be Michael and not Jim not Joe and Not Jesus.

The name Michael is pronounced Michelle. Which means Equal to God, or the son of God. In the verse Matthew 26:63 , that it says what is the meaning of the word Messiah. Somehow the word had gotten misunderstood over time while being in captivity. And especially Nero had destroyed all of their history books. But some prophets had ran and hide in the hills, living in caves like John the Baptist. They had kept copies of some of the scrolls. Some were rewritten, and which it were the scribes responsibility to memorized the originals and rewrite them exactly the way they were printed.
When Jesus was on the cross. He shouted out Eli, Eli. and which the Jews couldn't make out what he was saying. That it sound as if Jesus was the only one that know how to speak the old language. They had thought that He was calling out to Elijah. But it says that the Messiah must come from the seed of Abraham, and which Jesus genealogy shows that He is a direct descendant, and was able to speak that language. You can tell what language that the Jews of those times were speaking. Is by their names that shows. Like James is the Greek word for Jacob (Yahkob) and Jesus is Joshua (Yahshua). They never had Israelite's names.

Michael [N] [E]

(who is like God? )

Matthew 26:63 But Jesus remained silent. The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.”

John 5:18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

1)The ancient Hebrew
Y is pronunciated as an H just as in Spanish J is pronounced as an H.
That is why the book of Joshua is called Hoshea. Yashua can be pronounced either
Hashua or Hasheva.
It can be a name or a description thus confused for a name.
2) There was no christ named Yashua the closest was Yeshu son of Mary of 100bc.
who's Rabbi mentor was YoHoshua.
He died by stoning and hanging on a tree not crucifixion.
3) the crucified christs were Yehuda the Galilean died in 6bc(tax revolter) and the AD era revolter who's apostles were martyrs called Theudas by the Jordan river
died 45 ad. Yehuda and Theudas are mentioned in book of Acts, but mistakenly swaped for who died first. Yehuda is mentioned in Josephus, but Jesus is placed in out of context during later copies around the time of the great forger liar Eusebius.

In other words when Rome created the new one world religion under their authority, they appeased all messianic cults and mythologies and religions by creating a compiled character as an image of a man deemed perfect-Ezekiel 28 warning about the fallen false prophet dying by the hands of the 'sea'(Rome) for claim8ng to be a god, and being a
"created image of a man" deemed :
Anointed(christ) guardian (nazarene)
-Ezekiel 28:14
and perfect (sinless)-Ezekiel 28:15

The letter "J" has came from when Martin Luther had translated the scriptures. He was German and the first to translated the scriptures. But I think that ancient Greek/Latin that they didn't had no "Y" in their alphabet. Or is it ancient Hebrew.


Iésous: Jesus or Joshua, the name of the Messiah, also three other Isr. Strong's Greek: 2424. Ἰησοῦς (Iésous) -- Jesus or Joshua, the name of the Messiah, also three other Isr.

 

[Aletheia4u]

The bible is a load of myths and lies. Which part is true, that Noah got marsupials from Australia and the back again? How?

The Flood theory is that most of the flood water came from subterranean aquifers. So, there would have been land between Australia to the ark before the Flood. And, after the Flood, an ice age lowered the ocean enough for land bridges.

How do you explain the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD, predicted decades earlier in detail by Jesus and fulfilled according to that detail? The destruction of that Temple was also predicted by Daniel centuries before Christ, and even before the Temple itself was built.

There has been no time in earth's history where there was a land bridge from the Middle East to Australia. Please try again.

As for the temple you mention, lots of temples were destroyed over and over, nothing special there

But none of them were built without hands.

What proof do you have of such a claim?

Jesus was not referring to the physical nature. He most likely referring to something spiritual. If Peter was the chief corner stone of this Temple. I guess from then on, that everyone will fall into their own place.

 

[Mudda]

The bible is a load of myths and lies. Which part is true, that Noah got marsupials from Australia and the back again? How?

The Flood theory is that most of the flood water came from subterranean aquifers. So, there would have been land between Australia to the ark before the Flood. And, after the Flood, an ice age lowered the ocean enough for land bridges.

How do you explain the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD, predicted decades earlier in detail by Jesus and fulfilled according to that detail? The destruction of that Temple was also predicted by Daniel centuries before Christ, and even before the Temple itself was built.

There has been no time in earth's history where there was a land bridge from the Middle East to Australia. Please try again.

As for the temple you mention, lots of temples were destroyed over and over, nothing special there

But none of them were built without hands.

What proof do you have of such a claim?

Jesus was not referring to the physical nature. He most likely referring to something spiritual. If Peter was the chief corner stone of this Temple. I guess from then on, that everyone will fall into their own place.

You have no proof so you backtrack. Good for you.

 

[HaShev]

The letter "J" has came from when Martin Luther had translated the scriptures. He was German and the first to translated the scriptures. But I think that ancient Greek/Latin that they didn't had no "Y" in their alphabet. Or is it ancient Hebrew.


Iésous: Jesus or Joshua, the name of the Messiah, also three other Isr. Strong's Greek: 2424. Ἰησοῦς (Iésous) -- Jesus or Joshua, the name of the Messiah, also three other Isr.

If you notice Josephus a Jew keeps every historical character's Hebrew name in it's original Hebrew form except Jesus.
OLDER copies of Josephus before the era of Constantine have no mention of Jesus.
The name from the Greek writings= IeSous could be a derrogatory label for the character and not a name at all, as it means;
"the Swine".
If you look at emulations today at how today's Satanists mock the church and it's rituals and holidays, then you get an idea at what Rome created was liken to Levay's satanic church(snide mockery of religion).
Mocking the faith of the revolters they were opposition to and trying to squelch:
1)calling their christ Jesus, steming from the enscribed Greek IeSous (the swine).
Swine are forbidden especially in the temple.
So was a bastard child (in Deut), so they used the Illigitimate son of the 100bc
Harlot Mary as the main image of the satanic idol.
2)calling him the lamb of passover which was the Egyptian idol god, that label is also a bad thing and mockery.
3)creating a new non Jewish name for a claimed Jewish messianic character, SIMILAR to calling a messianic figure by a non Hebrew term Christos (predated word used for Krishna).
4)placing the figure's lineage through all the harlots of the Bible.
Matthew mentions four sinful harlot women of the bible conveniently and coincidentally in the Joseph genealogy:
1-(Genesis 38:12-19) Tamar who was the one who disguised herself as a harlot to seduce her father-in-law Judah.
2-(Joshua 2:1) Rahab who was a harlot living in the city of Jericho. And note wasn’t even of Jewish lineage, she was a Canaanite. The creators of the legend/image icon in trying to create his lineage and plagiarizing the OT goofed this one big time.
3- (Ruth 3:1-14) Ruth who was the one through her mother-in-law Naomi's request, came secretly to where Boaz was sleeping and spent the night with him. Later Ruth and Boaz were married.
4-(2 Samuel 11:2-5) Bathsheba was the controversial one who became pregnant by King David while she was still married to Uriah.

5)claiming Jesus the nemesis of God- Lucifer the morning star son of Baal
in Rev 22:16.
All jokes have their punchline at the end.

6)claiming him the gatekeeper of hell in
Rev 1 & 9.
7)claiming his kingdom in death not in life.
8)using the mithraic and the baal crosses,
Mithras who's enemy was
the Night (Evening Star) so they call Jesus the thief of the Night (Shalem the Evening Star=Archangel Michael).
9)calling him the scarab (dung beetle).
10) calling him the Apollyon not to bring peace, but to bring division and burning up of our planet.
11)breaking all 10 commands through the image.
12)reinventing the holidays
13)creating new book and new God in place of. Suddenly YHWH wasn't good enough they tried converting people already in YHWH to Jesus even as they claimed them the same.
14)made the anointed priests and leaders the bad guys in the twisted accounts.
15)made Jesus the responsible accessory to the killing of righteous John the Baptist.
16)used the offshoot cult (hanotzrim) to create the satanic church-which had the same luciferous rays of light sun worship.
17)used underworld death cult teachings opposing the God of Life & his messenger of life-creating the opposition to life for their kingdom in death.
18) claiming the scattering and slaughtering of the flock as being the work of a "good shepherd" is total mockery.
Clearly they created an opposite-adversary(sawtawn) version in mockery liken to today's satanist.

 

[HaShev]

All the writers of the NT were self appointed prophets with no formal training in Rabbinical studies, & with no fulfillment of what a prophet is.
FAILED END-OF-THE-WORLD PREDICTIONS WHICH WERE TO OCCUR BEFORE 1998 From 30-90 ad the gospels recorded many failed predictions of end times:
Matthew 16:28: "...there shall be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." Since the life expectancy in those days was little over 30 years, Jesus predicted his second coming sometime during the 1st century CE. It didn't happen. more failed end time rants can be found
in (I Cor. 10:11 -KJV) (Heb. 1:2 -KJV)
(I Peter 1:20 -KJV) (I Peter 4:7 -KJV)
(1 John 2:15-17) (I John 2:18 -KJV) Remember you can't claim the kingdom to come before the disciples deaths and then fail to deliver if you want to be considered a prophet of G-d.
You can't claim to be Messiah if you can't liberate or deliver your people instead you cause them to scatter and be slain, that's not a savior or good shepherd that's the result of false cult leaders through the ages.
Prophecy has to be accurate in fulfillment for it to be legit then when the Bible in
Dan 12:1-4 says Michael will rise at this time to DELIVER the people then the person has to be Michael and not Jim not Joe and Not Jesus.

The name Michael is pronounced Michelle. Which means Equal to God, or the son of God. In the verse Matthew 26:63 , that it says what is the meaning of the word Messiah. Somehow the word had gotten misunderstood over time while being in captivity. And especially Nero had destroyed all of their history books. But some prophets had ran and hide in the hills, living in caves like John the Baptist. They had kept copies of some of the scrolls. Some were rewritten, and which it were the scribes responsibility to memorized the originals and rewrite them exactly the way they were printed.
When Jesus was on the cross. He shouted out Eli, Eli. and which the Jews couldn't make out what he was saying. That it sound as if Jesus was the only one that know how to speak the old language. They had thought that He was calling out to Elijah. But it says that the Messiah must come from the seed of Abraham, and which Jesus genealogy shows that He is a direct descendant, and was able to speak that language. You can tell what language that the Jews of those times were speaking. Is by their names that shows. Like James is the Greek word for Jacob (Yahkob) and Jesus is Joshua (Yahshua). They never had Israelite's names.

Michael [N] [E]

(who is like God? )

Matthew 26:63 But Jesus remained silent. The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.”

John 5:18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

1)The ancient Hebrew
Y is pronunciated as an H just as in Spanish J is pronounced as an H.
That is why the book of Joshua is called Hoshea. Yashua can be pronounced either
Hashua or Hasheva.
It can be a name or a description thus confused for a name.
2) There was no christ named Yashua the closest was Yeshu son of Mary of 100bc.
who's Rabbi mentor was YoHoshua.
He died by stoning and hanging on a tree not crucifixion.
3) the crucified christs were Yehuda the Galilean died in 6bc(tax revolter) and the AD era revolter who's apostles were martyrs called Theudas by the Jordan river
died 45 ad. Yehuda and Theudas are mentioned in book of Acts, but mistakenly swaped for who died first. Yehuda is mentioned in Josephus, but Jesus is placed in out of context during later copies around the time of the great forger liar Eusebius.

In other words when Rome created the new one world religion under their authority, they appeased all messianic cults and mythologies and religions by creating a compiled character as an image of a man deemed perfect-Ezekiel 28 warning about the fallen false prophet dying by the hands of the 'sea'(Rome) for claim8ng to be a god, and being a
"created image of a man" deemed :
Anointed(christ) guardian (nazarene)
-Ezekiel 28:14
and perfect (sinless)-Ezekiel 28:15

Yes they created their image of a man and placed him/ their image in as many verses in the Jewish scriptures as they could...That is why it I find it incredibly humorous when they use Psalm 22 because at the top of the Psalm it is directed to The leader of Shahar or the Hind of the Dawn/ MorningStar/ Lucifer by placing their created image Jesus there they are telling us that this fallen one is their leader.It is actually quite humorous.....This proves many things..One they are deceptive, Two they can't understand or read the original concepts.Three they prey on the guliable or people who are not educated. There are many other things that could be pointed out but people should on their own question these beliefs and figure things out for themselves ESP in today's times when information is so readily availiable to all who desire it....

They left evidence of what they intended to do in plagiarism of the OT.
there is the admission of plagiarizing from the OT stories to create his image:

Luke 24:44-45 "Then he said to them, 'everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms.' (-Meaning, fit me in every verse to make me out to be the one)
Thus They rewrote Matthew 1.1 through 4:11 to create his Genesis (Luke 1:5 - 4:13). He leaned on Mark 1:21 through 3:19 to create his Exodus (Luke 4:14 - 6:19).
He quarried Matthew in rather unique ways to develop his readings for Leviticus (Luke 6:20 - 8:25).
He transcribed Mark 4 through 9 with some rather gaping omissions to provide appropriate readings to correspond with the material found in Numbers (Luke 8:26 - 9:50).
Finally, in his most imaginative piece of writing, Luke created the expanded journey section of his gospel (Luke 9:51 - 18:14) to correspond to the readings from Deuteronomy.
In order to show Jesus as the fulfillment of the Torah, Luke wrote his infancy story against the background of the Book of Genesis.
The blood atonement borrowed from
Deut 21.
Jeremiah 13:13-14 was used in emulating out of it’s context of time and message to create a disturbing threat in
Matthew 10: 34-40 and Thomas Verse 16.

2Samuel 1:10 &1:12 were re rewritten in the crucifixion scene of Jesus to be about him not Israel.
Even 1Sa 5:3 &5:4 mirrors his crucifixion that was written to emulate these verses about the Philistine deity “Dagon” he represents as the son of DAGON'S son Baal.
And read II Kings 4: 42 - 43(sound familiar to the loaves of bread story placed upon Jesus?)
Not only did they rehash text that was already in the bible but they also manipulate text that their teachings are based on making excuses for not fulfilling things or for problems that arise like his death etc. All the stories are based on twisted reasoning trying to avoid the inevitable questions like how could God die and allow himself to be tortured by his enemies etc. So they wrote the story and religion around these complications and twisted reason and common sense to make excuses for these things.

When Jesus' biography was being compiled was to attribute to him, miracles and anecdotes recorded in the Hebrew Bible. The following examples illustrate this ruse:
The Hebrew Bible relates that before she gave birth to Samuel, Hannah had been childless. And to show her gratitude to G--d for blessing her with a son, “...she brought him to the House of the L--rd,...” “...along with three bullocks,...” to be sacrificed there.
Mary was also said to have been without children prior to the birth of Jesus, and that after she bore him, “...they brought him up to Jerusalem to present him to the L--rd....” “and to offer a sacrifice....”
In both narratives, the families were greeted at the Temple by holy people. Eli the High Priest received Samuel, and “...Simeon, a man righteous and devout,...” together with a “prophetess,” were on hand to sing the praises of Jesus. Interestingly, her name is given as Anna which in Hebrew is Hannah!
Even the description of Jesus' spiritual progress is curiously similar to Samuel's:
“Now the boy Samuel continued to grow in stature, and in favor with the L--rd and with men.”
“And Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature, and in favor with G--d and man.”
John the Baptist, supposedly Jesus' cousin, is represented in the New Testament as being a reincarnation of Elijah the prophet.
The account of John's birth was derived from the chronicles of Samson:
Both their mothers are described as being barren, and childless when an angel appears announcing the forthcoming birth of an illustrious son.
Samson's mother was warned that she must “...drink no wine or strong drink,...” Similarly, the angel said that John “...shall drink no wine or strong drink,....”
The reason for this abstention in both instances were identical:
“...The child [Samson] shall be a Nazirite to G--d from the womb....” “...he [John] shall be filled with the Holy Spirit from his mother's womb.”
The closing statements of both narratives are also strikingly similar:
“...and the child [Samson] grew, and the L--rd blessed him.”
“And the child [John] grew, and became strong in the spirit,....”
The feasibility that Jesus brought a dead man back to life is dramatically reduced when one compares the details of this report with a miracle performed by Elijah the prophet:
Both episodes begin with the words:
“As he drew near to the gate of the city, behold,..They, then both continue to relate that a widow's son had died, & subsequently was resurrected, one by Elijah, one by Jesus.
Each, in turn, then “..gave him to his mother.”
Elisha the prophet fed a large group of people with a small quantity of food consisting of first fruits, twenty loaves of barley, and fresh ears of grain. His disciples express disbelief it would suffice=became
fish loaf story.

 

[Mudda]

A prophecy that fails is just a bad guess. I do it all the time.

 

[prismsplay]

A prophecy that fails is just a bad guess. I do it all the time.

Divine pronouncements concerning future realities are possible.

Amos 3:7
Surely the Lord God will do nothing until he revealeth the secret unto his servants the prophets.

John 15:15
Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

from "On the Nature of Signs" (1873) by Charles S. Peirce
Take any statement which is made concerning a matter of fact. It is caused or determined by the fact. The fact has been observed & the perception of the fact which was caused by it in its turn causes the statement to be made. Perhaps however the fact was not directly perceived. The statement may be a prediction. In that case it cannot be said that that which follows after has caused that which precedes it, the prediction, but if the event has been predicted it has been through some knowledge of its cause and this same cause which precedes the event also precedes some cognition of the mind which gave rise to the prediction so that there is a real causal connection between the sign and the thing signified although it does not consist in one's being the effect of the other but in both being the effect of the same cause.

from The Sources of Religious Insight (1912) by Josiah Royce, pages 109-110
... whatever your opinions, your expression of them is an appeal to some wider insight that you regard as real, and that you view as a live insight which comprehends your ideas, and which sees how they are related to genuine experience. This, I affirm, is the universal form which all opinion takes. A true opinion is true, because in fact it expresses what the wider insight confirms. A false opinion is false, because it is refuted by the light of this same wider view. Apart from such a confirmation or refutation in the light of such a larger view, the very concepts of truth and error, as applied to opinions which are not wholly confirmed or set aside by the instantaneous evidence of the moment when the opinions are formed or uttered, have no meaning. True is the judgment that is confirmed by the larger view to which it appeals. False is the assertion that is not thus confirmed. Upon such a conception the very ideas of truth and error depend. Without such a conception truth and error have no sense. If such a conception is not itself a true view of our situation, that is, if there is no wider insight, our opinions have neither truth nor error, and are all of them alike merely meaningless. When you are ignorant, you are ignorant of what the wider view makes clear to its own insight. If you blunder or are deluded, your blunder is due to a defective apprehension which the wider view confirms. And thus, whether you are ignorant or blundering, wise or foolish, whether the truth or falsity of your present opinion is supposed to be actual, one actuality is equally and rationally presupposed, as the actuality to which all your opinions refer, and in the light of which they possess sense. This is the actuality of some wider insight with reference to which your own opinion gets its truth or its falsity. To this wider insight, to this always presupposed vision of experience as it is, of the facts as they are, you are always appealing. Your every act of assertion displays the genuineness of the appeal and exemplifies the absolute rational necessity of asserting that the appeal is made to an insight that is itself real.

 

[Aletheia4u]

The letter "J" has came from when Martin Luther had translated the scriptures. He was German and the first to translated the scriptures. But I think that ancient Greek/Latin that they didn't had no "Y" in their alphabet. Or is it ancient Hebrew.


Iésous: Jesus or Joshua, the name of the Messiah, also three other Isr. Strong's Greek: 2424. Ἰησοῦς (Iésous) -- Jesus or Joshua, the name of the Messiah, also three other Isr.

If you notice Josephus a Jew keeps every historical character's Hebrew name in it's original Hebrew form except Jesus.
OLDER copies of Josephus before the era of Constantine have no mention of Jesus.
The name from the Greek writings= IeSous could be a derrogatory label for the character and not a name at all, as it means;
"the Swine".
If you look at emulations today at how today's Satanists mock the church and it's rituals and holidays, then you get an idea at what Rome created was liken to Levay's satanic church(snide mockery of religion).
Mocking the faith of the revolters they were opposition to and trying to squelch:
1)calling their christ Jesus, steming from the enscribed Greek IeSous (the swine).
Swine are forbidden especially in the temple.
So was a bastard child (in Deut), so they used the Illigitimate son of the 100bc
Harlot Mary as the main image of the satanic idol.
2)calling him the lamb of passover which was the Egyptian idol god, that label is also a bad thing and mockery.
3)creating a new non Jewish name for a claimed Jewish messianic character, SIMILAR to calling a messianic figure by a non Hebrew term Christos (predated word used for Krishna).
4)placing the figure's lineage through all the harlots of the Bible.
Matthew mentions four sinful harlot women of the bible conveniently and coincidentally in the Joseph genealogy:
1-(Genesis 38:12-19) Tamar who was the one who disguised herself as a harlot to seduce her father-in-law Judah.
2-(Joshua 2:1) Rahab who was a harlot living in the city of Jericho. And note wasn’t even of Jewish lineage, she was a Canaanite. The creators of the legend/image icon in trying to create his lineage and plagiarizing the OT goofed this one big time.
3- (Ruth 3:1-14) Ruth who was the one through her mother-in-law Naomi's request, came secretly to where Boaz was sleeping and spent the night with him. Later Ruth and Boaz were married.
4-(2 Samuel 11:2-5) Bathsheba was the controversial one who became pregnant by King David while she was still married to Uriah.

5)claiming Jesus the nemesis of God- Lucifer the morning star son of Baal
in Rev 22:16.
All jokes have their punchline at the end.

6)claiming him the gatekeeper of hell in
Rev 1 & 9.
7)claiming his kingdom in death not in life.
8)using the mithraic and the baal crosses,
Mithras who's enemy was
the Night (Evening Star) so they call Jesus the thief of the Night (Shalem the Evening Star=Archangel Michael).
9)calling him the scarab (dung beetle).
10) calling him the Apollyon not to bring peace, but to bring division and burning up of our planet.
11)breaking all 10 commands through the image.
12)reinventing the holidays
13)creating new book and new God in place of. Suddenly YHWH wasn't good enough they tried converting people already in YHWH to Jesus even as they claimed them the same.
14)made the anointed priests and leaders the bad guys in the twisted accounts.
15)made Jesus the responsible accessory to the killing of righteous John the Baptist.
16)used the offshoot cult (hanotzrim) to create the satanic church-which had the same luciferous rays of light sun worship.
17)used underworld death cult teachings opposing the God of Life & his messenger of life-creating the opposition to life for their kingdom in death.
18) claiming the scattering and slaughtering of the flock as being the work of a "good shepherd" is total mockery.
Clearly they created an opposite-adversary(sawtawn) version in mockery liken to today's satanist.

Q: If the Hebrew and Greek language does not have the letter 'J' then where did the 'J' in Jesus came from and why?

Answer by Clifford Heineck
In translation from one language to another, changes in pronunciation and spelling normally occur. The letter we normally would consider Z comes in the middle of the Greek alphabet. The English letter H does not exist in Greek, but the sound for H occurs by a mark above the leading vowel in a word. A capital Greek letter, looking like the English H, is pronounced like an English long A. "Jesus" has been an acceptable translation of iesous in Greek, which also means Joshua. It is pronounced: ee-yay-soose. If the Hebrew and Greek language does not have the letter 'J' then where did the 'J' in Jesus came from and why

Hay-Soos or Ay-Soos.


A2A. Dimitrios Michmizos has a good answer here already for why Greek, as the language of the empire, would be a natural choice. I'll address the other half of the original question: "why not Aramaic or Latin?" The questioner asks about Aramaic because this was presumably the language of Jesus and most of his early Jewish followers in the Holy Land, and about Latin because this was presumably the language of the Roman empire. https://www.quora.com/Why-was-the-New-Testament-written-in-Greek-rather-than-Aramaic-or-Latin

 

[shimon]

The letter "J" has came from when Martin Luther had translated the scriptures. He was German and the first to translated the scriptures. But I think that ancient Greek/Latin that they didn't had no "Y" in their alphabet. Or is it ancient Hebrew.


Iésous: Jesus or Joshua, the name of the Messiah, also three other Isr. Strong's Greek: 2424. Ἰησοῦς (Iésous) -- Jesus or Joshua, the name of the Messiah, also three other Isr.

If you notice Josephus a Jew keeps every historical character's Hebrew name in it's original Hebrew form except Jesus.
OLDER copies of Josephus before the era of Constantine have no mention of Jesus.
The name from the Greek writings= IeSous could be a derrogatory label for the character and not a name at all, as it means;
"the Swine".
If you look at emulations today at how today's Satanists mock the church and it's rituals and holidays, then you get an idea at what Rome created was liken to Levay's satanic church(snide mockery of religion).
Mocking the faith of the revolters they were opposition to and trying to squelch:
1)calling their christ Jesus, steming from the enscribed Greek IeSous (the swine).
Swine are forbidden especially in the temple.
So was a bastard child (in Deut), so they used the Illigitimate son of the 100bc
Harlot Mary as the main image of the satanic idol.
2)calling him the lamb of passover which was the Egyptian idol god, that label is also a bad thing and mockery.
3)creating a new non Jewish name for a claimed Jewish messianic character, SIMILAR to calling a messianic figure by a non Hebrew term Christos (predated word used for Krishna).
4)placing the figure's lineage through all the harlots of the Bible.
Matthew mentions four sinful harlot women of the bible conveniently and coincidentally in the Joseph genealogy:
1-(Genesis 38:12-19) Tamar who was the one who disguised herself as a harlot to seduce her father-in-law Judah.
2-(Joshua 2:1) Rahab who was a harlot living in the city of Jericho. And note wasn’t even of Jewish lineage, she was a Canaanite. The creators of the legend/image icon in trying to create his lineage and plagiarizing the OT goofed this one big time.
3- (Ruth 3:1-14) Ruth who was the one through her mother-in-law Naomi's request, came secretly to where Boaz was sleeping and spent the night with him. Later Ruth and Boaz were married.
4-(2 Samuel 11:2-5) Bathsheba was the controversial one who became pregnant by King David while she was still married to Uriah.

5)claiming Jesus the nemesis of God- Lucifer the morning star son of Baal
in Rev 22:16.
All jokes have their punchline at the end.

6)claiming him the gatekeeper of hell in
Rev 1 & 9.
7)claiming his kingdom in death not in life.
8)using the mithraic and the baal crosses,
Mithras who's enemy was
the Night (Evening Star) so they call Jesus the thief of the Night (Shalem the Evening Star=Archangel Michael).
9)calling him the scarab (dung beetle).
10) calling him the Apollyon not to bring peace, but to bring division and burning up of our planet.
11)breaking all 10 commands through the image.
12)reinventing the holidays
13)creating new book and new God in place of. Suddenly YHWH wasn't good enough they tried converting people already in YHWH to Jesus even as they claimed them the same.
14)made the anointed priests and leaders the bad guys in the twisted accounts.
15)made Jesus the responsible accessory to the killing of righteous John the Baptist.
16)used the offshoot cult (hanotzrim) to create the satanic church-which had the same luciferous rays of light sun worship.
17)used underworld death cult teachings opposing the God of Life & his messenger of life-creating the opposition to life for their kingdom in death.
18) claiming the scattering and slaughtering of the flock as being the work of a "good shepherd" is total mockery.
Clearly they created an opposite-adversary(sawtawn) version in mockery liken to today's satanist.

Q: If the Hebrew and Greek language does not have the letter 'J' then where did the 'J' in Jesus came from and why?

Answer by Clifford Heineck
In translation from one language to another, changes in pronunciation and spelling normally occur. The letter we normally would consider Z comes in the middle of the Greek alphabet. The English letter H does not exist in Greek, but the sound for H occurs by a mark above the leading vowel in a word. A capital Greek letter, looking like the English H, is pronounced like an English long A. "Jesus" has been an acceptable translation of iesous in Greek, which also means Joshua. It is pronounced: ee-yay-soose. If the Hebrew and Greek language does not have the letter 'J' then where did the 'J' in Jesus came from and why

Hay-Soos or Ay-Soos.


A2A. Dimitrios Michmizos has a good answer here already for why Greek, as the language of the empire, would be a natural choice. I'll address the other half of the original question: "why not Aramaic or Latin?" The questioner asks about Aramaic because this was presumably the language of Jesus and most of his early Jewish followers in the Holy Land, and about Latin because this was presumably the language of the Roman empire. https://www.quora.com/Why-was-the-New-Testament-written-in-Greek-rather-than-Aramaic-or-Latin

You have opened a whole new can of worms by trying to twist your way out of this as Hay Soos is extremely close to He's Zeus the chief Gd of the Greek pantheon which also fits as many of the stories and fables found in the New Testament were borrowed from Greek mythology and given a Hebrew spin by the writers of the New Testament ..I could have a field day here on this subject but I am sure Hashev will have something further to say and I don't really want to inferre here as we see you trying to twist and turn out of the corner you have backed yourself into considering the letter J did not exsist till the 16 th century and was one of two letter added in and around that time to the alphabet we now have...

 

[Mudda]

A prophecy that fails is just a bad guess. I do it all the time.

Divine pronouncements concerning future realities are possible.

Amos 3:7
Surely the Lord God will do nothing until he revealeth the secret unto his servants the prophets.

John 15:15
Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

from "On the Nature of Signs" (1873) by Charles S. Peirce
Take any statement which is made concerning a matter of fact. It is caused or determined by the fact. The fact has been observed & the perception of the fact which was caused by it in its turn causes the statement to be made. Perhaps however the fact was not directly perceived. The statement may be a prediction. In that case it cannot be said that that which follows after has caused that which precedes it, the prediction, but if the event has been predicted it has been through some knowledge of its cause and this same cause which precedes the event also precedes some cognition of the mind which gave rise to the prediction so that there is a real causal connection between the sign and the thing signified although it does not consist in one's being the effect of the other but in both being the effect of the same cause.

from The Sources of Religious Insight (1912) by Josiah Royce, pages 109-110
... whatever your opinions, your expression of them is an appeal to some wider insight that you regard as real, and that you view as a live insight which comprehends your ideas, and which sees how they are related to genuine experience. This, I affirm, is the universal form which all opinion takes. A true opinion is true, because in fact it expresses what the wider insight confirms. A false opinion is false, because it is refuted by the light of this same wider view. Apart from such a confirmation or refutation in the light of such a larger view, the very concepts of truth and error, as applied to opinions which are not wholly confirmed or set aside by the instantaneous evidence of the moment when the opinions are formed or uttered, have no meaning. True is the judgment that is confirmed by the larger view to which it appeals. False is the assertion that is not thus confirmed. Upon such a conception the very ideas of truth and error depend. Without such a conception truth and error have no sense. If such a conception is not itself a true view of our situation, that is, if there is no wider insight, our opinions have neither truth nor error, and are all of them alike merely meaningless. When you are ignorant, you are ignorant of what the wider view makes clear to its own insight. If you blunder or are deluded, your blunder is due to a defective apprehension which the wider view confirms. And thus, whether you are ignorant or blundering, wise or foolish, whether the truth or falsity of your present opinion is supposed to be actual, one actuality is equally and rationally presupposed, as the actuality to which all your opinions refer, and in the light of which they possess sense. This is the actuality of some wider insight with reference to which your own opinion gets its truth or its falsity. To this wider insight, to this always presupposed vision of experience as it is, of the facts as they are, you are always appealing. Your every act of assertion displays the genuineness of the appeal and exemplifies the absolute rational necessity of asserting that the appeal is made to an insight that is itself real.

Thanks for not disagreeing with me.

 

[Aletheia4u]

The letter "J" has came from when Martin Luther had translated the scriptures. He was German and the first to translated the scriptures. But I think that ancient Greek/Latin that they didn't had no "Y" in their alphabet. Or is it ancient Hebrew.


Iésous: Jesus or Joshua, the name of the Messiah, also three other Isr. Strong's Greek: 2424. Ἰησοῦς (Iésous) -- Jesus or Joshua, the name of the Messiah, also three other Isr.

If you notice Josephus a Jew keeps every historical character's Hebrew name in it's original Hebrew form except Jesus.
OLDER copies of Josephus before the era of Constantine have no mention of Jesus.
The name from the Greek writings= IeSous could be a derrogatory label for the character and not a name at all, as it means;
"the Swine".
If you look at emulations today at how today's Satanists mock the church and it's rituals and holidays, then you get an idea at what Rome created was liken to Levay's satanic church(snide mockery of religion).
Mocking the faith of the revolters they were opposition to and trying to squelch:
1)calling their christ Jesus, steming from the enscribed Greek IeSous (the swine).
Swine are forbidden especially in the temple.
So was a bastard child (in Deut), so they used the Illigitimate son of the 100bc
Harlot Mary as the main image of the satanic idol.
2)calling him the lamb of passover which was the Egyptian idol god, that label is also a bad thing and mockery.
3)creating a new non Jewish name for a claimed Jewish messianic character, SIMILAR to calling a messianic figure by a non Hebrew term Christos (predated word used for Krishna).
4)placing the figure's lineage through all the harlots of the Bible.
Matthew mentions four sinful harlot women of the bible conveniently and coincidentally in the Joseph genealogy:
1-(Genesis 38:12-19) Tamar who was the one who disguised herself as a harlot to seduce her father-in-law Judah.
2-(Joshua 2:1) Rahab who was a harlot living in the city of Jericho. And note wasn’t even of Jewish lineage, she was a Canaanite. The creators of the legend/image icon in trying to create his lineage and plagiarizing the OT goofed this one big time.
3- (Ruth 3:1-14) Ruth who was the one through her mother-in-law Naomi's request, came secretly to where Boaz was sleeping and spent the night with him. Later Ruth and Boaz were married.
4-(2 Samuel 11:2-5) Bathsheba was the controversial one who became pregnant by King David while she was still married to Uriah.

5)claiming Jesus the nemesis of God- Lucifer the morning star son of Baal
in Rev 22:16.
All jokes have their punchline at the end.

6)claiming him the gatekeeper of hell in
Rev 1 & 9.
7)claiming his kingdom in death not in life.
8)using the mithraic and the baal crosses,
Mithras who's enemy was
the Night (Evening Star) so they call Jesus the thief of the Night (Shalem the Evening Star=Archangel Michael).
9)calling him the scarab (dung beetle).
10) calling him the Apollyon not to bring peace, but to bring division and burning up of our planet.
11)breaking all 10 commands through the image.
12)reinventing the holidays
13)creating new book and new God in place of. Suddenly YHWH wasn't good enough they tried converting people already in YHWH to Jesus even as they claimed them the same.
14)made the anointed priests and leaders the bad guys in the twisted accounts.
15)made Jesus the responsible accessory to the killing of righteous John the Baptist.
16)used the offshoot cult (hanotzrim) to create the satanic church-which had the same luciferous rays of light sun worship.
17)used underworld death cult teachings opposing the God of Life & his messenger of life-creating the opposition to life for their kingdom in death.
18) claiming the scattering and slaughtering of the flock as being the work of a "good shepherd" is total mockery.
Clearly they created an opposite-adversary(sawtawn) version in mockery liken to today's satanist.

Q: If the Hebrew and Greek language does not have the letter 'J' then where did the 'J' in Jesus came from and why?

Answer by Clifford Heineck
In translation from one language to another, changes in pronunciation and spelling normally occur. The letter we normally would consider Z comes in the middle of the Greek alphabet. The English letter H does not exist in Greek, but the sound for H occurs by a mark above the leading vowel in a word. A capital Greek letter, looking like the English H, is pronounced like an English long A. "Jesus" has been an acceptable translation of iesous in Greek, which also means Joshua. It is pronounced: ee-yay-soose. If the Hebrew and Greek language does not have the letter 'J' then where did the 'J' in Jesus came from and why

Hay-Soos or Ay-Soos.


A2A. Dimitrios Michmizos has a good answer here already for why Greek, as the language of the empire, would be a natural choice. I'll address the other half of the original question: "why not Aramaic or Latin?" The questioner asks about Aramaic because this was presumably the language of Jesus and most of his early Jewish followers in the Holy Land, and about Latin because this was presumably the language of the Roman empire. https://www.quora.com/Why-was-the-New-Testament-written-in-Greek-rather-than-Aramaic-or-Latin

You have opened a whole new can of worms by trying to twist your way out of this as Hay Soos is extremely close to He's Zeus the chief Gd of the Greek pantheon which also fits as many of the stories and fables found in the New Testament were borrowed from Greek mythology and given a Hebrew spin by the writers of the New Testament ..I could have a field day here on this subject but I am sure Hashev will have something further to say and I don't really want to inferre here as we see you trying to twist and turn out of the corner you have backed yourself into considering the letter J did not exsist till the 16 th century and was one of two letter added in and around that time to the alphabet we now have...

Jesus was a real person that had went around performing miracles. Pagans knew that He was real person. I believe that they went around claiming that Jesus was apart of their religion. Like Apollos had went around preaching the gospel and was known by many gentiles. And so the gentiles that practiced paganism that I believe that they made Apollo into their god as well. The Hellenistic Jews were the Jews whom worshiped pagan's gods, that later on had converted.But I believe that later on that they had combined some of their belief with the Christian's belief. And the Hebraic Jews that has kept the old ways, practicing the laws when they were called Hebrews. Because when Jesus had came up to a woman, the woman had claimed that Jacob was their father. But she did not said Israel. And so this sect must of had departed at one time, before Israel became a nation, but return back to the land of Israel later on. And so they had kept the Hebrew's customs.

And so Jesus name could of had been called in ancient Rome, Zuess. But the pagans probably had stolen that name.
.


Jeremiah 10:3 For the practices of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter.

Acts 6:1 In those days when the number of disciples was increasing, the Hellenistic Jews among them complained against the Hebraic Jews because their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution of food.

John 4:12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?”

1 Corinthians 1:12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.”


Apollo (Attic, Ionic, and Homeric Greek: Ἀπόλλων, Apollōn (GEN Ἀπόλλωνος); Doric: Ἀπέλλων, Apellōn; Arcadocypriot: Ἀπείλων, Apeilōn; Aeolic: Ἄπλουν, Aploun; Latin: Apollō) is one of the most important and complex of the Olympian deities in classical Greek and Roman religion and Greek and Roman mythology. The ideal of the kouros (a beardless, athletic youth), Apollo has been variously recognized as a god of music, truth and prophecy, healing, the sun and light, plague, poetry, and more. Apollo - Wikipedia



Yule or Yuletide ("Yule time") is a festival observed by the historical Germanic peoples. Scholars have connected the celebration to the Wild Hunt, the god Odin, and the pagan Anglo-Saxon Mōdraniht. It later underwent Christianised reformulation resulting in the term Christmastide. Yule - Wikipedia


How Hellenized was the Jewish religious culture of the time?

Jewish culture and civilization during the Hellenistic period was in intense dialogue with Hellenistic culture and civilization, beginning with the translation of Hebrew scriptures into Greek, a translation which survives and which we know as the Septuagint. That's certainly an example of the way in which Greek literary forms and Greek language impacted Jewish civilization and literary traditions. That impact extends far beyond scripture, and we see during the Hellenistic period Jews adopting literary forms of the Greek tradition, and writing plays, epic poems, lyric poems, all in the Greek language. Much of this activity would have centered in Alexandria, the capital of Egypt, but there was similar activity going on in Palestine, and some of these literary products that survive in some cases only in fragments, were probably written in Palestine, by Jews who were adopting these Hellenistic literary modes. A Portrait Of Jesus' World - Hellenistic Culture | From Jesus To Christ - The First Christians | FRONTLINE | PBS

 

[irosie91]

Yes what you can buy with money and weapons, we see it all the time. Proof it was never yours.

how does one determine land ownership. Land ownership was determined by PURCHASE
in the mass of land once called CANAAN and in the adjoining lands for more than 4000 years
. ------or it could be "gifted"
by a "king"------(like the pharaoh person) Land ownership was determined by conquest
by Rome-----ie kill'em enslave 'em and exploit'em--------- was the policy of both pre and post
Christian Rome-------later emulated by post islam "arab" Abraham----the founder of the
Hebrew people, got his by purchase. Thee is no history that includes the SELLING of it
by the Hebrew People-------There is history of Roman theft-----via the "holy" roman empire ---
(first reich) -------and Arab theft-----via the successors of Muhummad----the CALIPHS---including
ownership by the OTTOMAN CALIPHATE -----followed by OWNERSHIP by the 'HOLY ROMAN
EMPIRE"--------to which the CHURCH OF ENGLAND is the inheritor-----ie the British Empire is,
very simply, a VERSION of the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE. In the final analysis-----the Hebrew people
own Palestine-------they bought it and never sold it. The part of the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE---called
the BRITISH EMPIRE-----was given up by England. I own a house and a small bit of land in the
USA------I bought it

 

[Aletheia4u]

 

[HaShev]

Jesus was a real person that had went around performing miracles. Pagans knew that He was real person.

That's not true. Jesus is not a singular historical figure, he is a
CREATED IMAGE of a man based on many figures and mythologies in Rome compiling a one world religion.
Yeshu son of Mary of 100bc in the widows mite story(Jannaeus Alexander era coin) who was stoned and hanged on passover is not the King Herod (died 4bc) and Lysanias (died 35bc) era crucified in 6bc Christ Yehuda the Galilean tax revolter, nor are they the AD pilate era christ Theudas by the Jordan who was crucified in 45ad who's apostles were martyred. Paul and James argued that each was worshiping another christ then they were and John of Patmos seems to be telling you the Roman church is worshiping another.
The death scene of Jesus is completely plagiarized from the mythology of Bel (baal) and the exact story including 3 day resurrection can be found in Assyrian tablets dated at 700bc called
The Marduk's Ordeal tablet that is
now sitting in the British museum.
Historically the only Benny Hinn type healing scams in the stretch of eras of the many christ figures was
1)Yeshu of 100bc who fled to Egypt during the Pharisee revolt and Jannaeus persecutions (the later king Herod never killed babies that's a Roman demonization). The sorcery tricks and scams Yeshu came back with were from Egypt where he was influenced by Luciferous rays of light between the sun & earth teachings and Egyptian magic, which jived well with Rome's sun worship and Baal harvest scams (seen on tv through rvangelist asking for seed money) and can be seen throughout the NT.
and
2) one of the 2 Shimons, Simon Magus was doing sorcery he's seen in Acts 8:9–24
I believe confronting Shimon who becomes Peter.
3)Similarly Saul confronts the other Paul(Sergius Paulus called Paul) in Acts who's friend is the third sorcerer on this list called BarJesus. Saul Calls him the Ellymas (magician)& son of the devil.
Ironically calling him
Ben (son) J(h)ins(evil spirits).
So Paul(us) isn't Saul, Which would explain the Greek IeSous instead of Hebrew Hoshea. It would explain James and Paul's conflict and this traveling Paul's preference with this Benny Hinn travel show type sorcerer=$$$.

 

[Vastator]

There are so many failed prophecies in the Bible, it's hard to know where to begin...

I guess one would have to start with the obvious factoid that the bible as we all know it was written centuries after the events contained therein.... Hardly prophetic.

None the less we'll continue. Hefes a fail for you...
Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

Damascus is still inhabited today with over a million people, and hardly a ruinous heap. In fact it has been continuosly inhabited since its founding. Prophecy fail...

 

[Snouter]

Folks who think any prediction came true in the Jewish Bible or Neo-Essene Narrative (New Testament) need to realize there many writers and editors that retroactively tried to work the narratives out. Revelation is so controversial because the prophecy failed and they could not retroactively edit stuff to make it work out. Thus the insanity of "believers" over and over again thinking Revelation must someone mean something now instead of what it was actually talking about. As already indicated Nero was the first "beast" and Vespian another great leader of the day, was the scary "666 beast."

 

[shimon]

There are so many failed prophecies in the Bible, it's hard to know where to begin...

I guess one would have to start with the obvious factoid that the bible as we all know it was written centuries after the events contained therein.... Hardly prophetic.

None the less we'll continue. Hefes a fail for you...
Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

Damascus is still inhabited today with over a million people, and hardly a ruinous heap. In fact it has been continuosly inhabited since its founding. Prophecy fail...

That is not exactly true ..Damascus fell in the 730 ish BCE to Assyria and their people moved to Kir if I recollect correctly....I studied this text somewhat I think you can find the clues in 2 king 16:4... It was indeed made a ruinous heap at that time in the Hebrew text it did not say Forever....Some feel it may be coming again in our time which might happen Michael has explained his three layers of prophecy before... One should study things before coming to such conclusions...Just because most people do not accept that these things were not fulfilled doesn't mean that there were not at another time and another place...