CDZ Privacy, does it exist anymore, and why is it not protected anymore ?

[beagle9]

Recently a trucking company decided to place cams in their trucks, and to hardwire them in so that the cams will come on when the trucks start up (says a driver who works for the company who has done this). He said that the cam is no problem as it points outward or looks out the window for the purpose of recording the actions of motorist who are operating in and around the vehicle, and for the company to assess the truck drivers driving habits or skills for the purpose of risk management and/or for it to act as a recorded witness to a possible accident taking place. All good right ? Yes (Good).

Now here is the rub in which the driver or drivers are complaining about with this new idea. They are all livid because the thing is also recording voice or conversations that are taking place amongst the drivers in these trucks. Now I ask why would a company want to do this ? The drivers are in an uproar about it now, but the answer towards them are "If anyone doesn't like what's going on, then hit the road". Wow, wait really? Why does there need to be audio recording of drivers conversations in order to protect the companies interest in recording what is going on outside the vehicle ? Shouldn't that be their only concern, and not what's going on when a driver is having a conversation that is expected to have some semblance of privacy involved ?

I thought when told about this "Wow", that is just crazy. So are we now living more and more in a police state, and why is this happening now ? Are there people in offices listening to these conversations, who might take such conversations, and then abuse the right of privacy in order to hurt or fire the individual in which they might not like (i.e. not pertaining to his or her job or job performance) ? Otherwise so they would take the information learned and use it to do harm to an individual ? What guarantees should a company have to give in writing, that the information gained in no way will be used in ways to cause harm or how long will such information be held by the company & by whom is the information being held by ? A company should be held liable for any damage that might occur to a driver or individual if such information is found to be gained for political or hateful purposes, and/or is abused, or is used inappropriately right ????....

The inside of a truck cab is a driver's personal space, and it should be respected by any company as just that, and not to become liken to an office in order to bug and eavesdrop on a driver right ????. Shouldn't a company have to have an agreement drawn up by a lawyer in which the individual/driver, and the company should have to sign off on ??? I thought a warrant of suspicion has to be ordered up, and then signed off on by a judge before someone can record private conversations between individuals ???

The whole thing stinks to me, and it sounds disgusting enough of a situation for sure, but what do you all think ? Some concerned drivers would like to know. I will give them your assessments.

 

[The Great Goose]

yeah it's awful. I got chased out of a major city, because of all this filming of people shit. Vilification is an awful thing. Trust me, it's terrifying. It's not as though i'm a celebrity ffs.

 

[beagle9]

My mom once worked as a desk clerk in a hotel, and the hotel management placed a cam in the area pointing at the register. It was recording audio and video she said. However, soon the audio portion was shut down by order of (not sure who), but my mom said that she was told that they could video, but it was illegal for them to have audio at the time. Hmmm. It's understandable that they would have video to protect their interest, but I agree that audio wasn't really nessesary to have in that situation either. Hers was a response to what I told her that happened to my friends who are drivers at the company talked about.

 

[beagle9]

yeah it's awful. I got chased out of a major city, because of all this filming of people shit. Vilification is an awful thing. Trust me, it's terrifying. It's not as though i'm a celebrity ffs.

. Ok, you were video taping what ? Not sure I followed exactly what happened to you or understood correctly. Thanks for stopping in though.

 

[Dekster]

It is a cockpit voice recorder for trucks. BFD. It isn't like anybody is going to sit there and go through the stuff unless something happens.

 

[beagle9]

It is a cockpit voice recorder for trucks. BFD. It isn't like anybody is going to sit there and go through the stuff unless something happens.

. Why record voice regardless of ? Why isn't visual enough ? Visual should say it all right ? I think one thing leads to another when giving up what little bit of rights that were afforded everybody once upon a time in what use to be common sense America.

 

[Dekster]

It is a cockpit voice recorder for trucks. BFD. It isn't like anybody is going to sit there and go through the stuff unless something happens.

. Why record voice regardless of ? Why isn't visual enough ? Visual should say it all right ? I think one thing leads to another when giving up what little bit of rights that were afforded everybody once upon a time in what use to be common sense America.

See if they were on the phone. Who knows. There is an old rule of thumb in cockpit voice recorders that if the flight crew says "Oh, God" something was wrong with the plane but if they use profanity, they mesed up somehow. In either case, it was just a matter of finding how.

 

[Compost]

The cameras outside the truck are understandable -recording what is happening outside of the vehicle and how the trucker is handling the truck- this is business/job related. However, audio that records conversations of the trucker is none of the company's business. The trucker's job has nothing to do with verbal activity.

You hear about people being fired for something they posted on Facebook- it seems to me a similar scenario is inevitable with this audio snooping. Some trucker will get fired for listening to talk radio or expressing an opinion on the phone that his boss disagrees with.

 

[beagle9]

It is a cockpit voice recorder for trucks. BFD. It isn't like anybody is going to sit there and go through the stuff unless something happens.

. Why record voice regardless of ? Why isn't visual enough ? Visual should say it all right ? I think one thing leads to another when giving up what little bit of rights that were afforded everybody once upon a time in what use to be common sense America.

See if they were on the phone. Who knows. There is an old rule of thumb in cockpit voice recorders that if the flight crew says "Oh, God" something was wrong with the plane but if they use profanity, they mesed up somehow. In either case, it was just a matter of finding how.

. I think the device being used according to the driver is a "Cam-Pro"... Not sure how it works, but I wonder if a person can bring up or log into the device over the internet, and watch in real time what goes on or to listen to what goes on ? Don't think the device is anything professional as in commercial grade according to the driver.

 

[beagle9]

The cameras outside the truck are understandable -recording what is happening outside of the vehicle and how the trucker is handling the truck- this is business/job related. However, audio that records conversations of the trucker is none of the company's business. The trucker's job has nothing to do with verbal activity.

You hear about people being fired for something they posted on Facebook- it seems to me a similar scenario is inevitable with this audio snooping. Some trucker will get fired for listening to talk radio or expressing an opinion on the phone that his boss disagrees with.

. Yes, this is the problem the drivers are facing it seems, and if goes on in one industry, then such things can spread to other areas as well. This nation needs to get it's head back on straight, but I fear it could be to late maybe. This nation needs smart people to be on the right side of history once again, and not on the wrong side of it. Need someone with serious common sense to step in and defend against this stuff... I agree totally with your review and comment friend.

 

[Hiryuu]

Does the driver represent him/herself while operating the vehicle, or do they represent the company whose name is plastered on the side of the vehicle?

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Recently a trucking company decided to place cams in their trucks, and to hardwire them in so that the cams will come on when the trucks start up (says a driver who works for the company who has done this). He said that the cam is no problem as it points outward or looks out the window for the purpose of recording the actions of motorist who are operating in and around the vehicle, and for the company to assess the truck drivers driving habits or skills for the purpose of risk management and/or for it to act as a recorded witness to a possible accident taking place. All good right ? Yes (Good).

Now here is the rub in which the driver or drivers are complaining about with this new idea. They are all livid because the thing is also recording voice or conversations that are taking place amongst the drivers in these trucks. Now I ask why would a company want to do this ? The drivers are in an uproar about it now, but the answer towards them are "If anyone doesn't like what's going on, then hit the road". Wow, wait really? Why does there need to be audio recording of drivers conversations in order to protect the companies interest in recording what is going on outside the vehicle ? Shouldn't that be their only concern, and not what's going on when a driver is having a conversation that is expected to have some semblance of privacy involved ?

I thought when told about this "Wow", that is just crazy. So are we now living more and more in a police state, and why is this happening now ? Are there people in offices listening to these conversations, who might take such conversations, and then abuse the right of privacy in order to hurt or fire the individual in which they might not like (i.e. not pertaining to his or her job or job performance) ? Otherwise so they would take the information learned and use it to do harm to an individual ? What guarantees should a company have to give in writing, that the information gained in no way will be used in ways to cause harm or how long will such information be held by the company & by whom is the information being held by ? A company should be held liable for any damage that might occur to a driver or individual if such information is found to be gained for political or hateful purposes, and/or is abused, or is used inappropriately right ????....

The inside of a truck cab is a driver's personal space, and it should be respected by any company as just that, and not to become liken to an office in order to bug and eavesdrop on a driver right ????. Shouldn't a company have to have an agreement drawn up by a lawyer in which the individual/driver, and the company should have to sign off on ??? I thought a warrant of suspicion has to be ordered up, and then signed off on by a judge before someone can record private conversations between individuals ???

The whole thing stinks to me, and it sounds disgusting enough of a situation for sure, but what do you all think ? Some concerned drivers would like to know. I will give them your assessments.

The COTUS in noway guarantees that your employer won't spy on you while you are on the clock.

 

[beagle9]

Does the driver represent him/herself while operating the vehicle, or do they represent the company whose name is plastered on the side of the vehicle?

. Let's see now... The driver submitted a resume, and the company excepted everything about the driver in that resume upon their hiring him or her. The driver should know by training and character that he or she is an extension of the company brand and name. Then comes the pay package and benefits in which should be the incentive for the driver to do well, and for him or her to be loyal to the company worked for. If all these are in play, then the company and driver should get along just great together, and the expense or cost involved to work such an employee should be acceptable and profitable for both parties involved. If a company deploys technology to spy on it's employee's, then something is bad wrong with the hiring practices of the company (or) the company is a low baller in the industry therefore using every rotten tactic it can in order to try and work low payed unvetted employees as cheap as it can, and then using technology to babysit them afterwards.

 

[beagle9]

Recently a trucking company decided to place cams in their trucks, and to hardwire them in so that the cams will come on when the trucks start up (says a driver who works for the company who has done this). He said that the cam is no problem as it points outward or looks out the window for the purpose of recording the actions of motorist who are operating in and around the vehicle, and for the company to assess the truck drivers driving habits or skills for the purpose of risk management and/or for it to act as a recorded witness to a possible accident taking place. All good right ? Yes (Good).

Now here is the rub in which the driver or drivers are complaining about with this new idea. They are all livid because the thing is also recording voice or conversations that are taking place amongst the drivers in these trucks. Now I ask why would a company want to do this ? The drivers are in an uproar about it now, but the answer towards them are "If anyone doesn't like what's going on, then hit the road". Wow, wait really? Why does there need to be audio recording of drivers conversations in order to protect the companies interest in recording what is going on outside the vehicle ? Shouldn't that be their only concern, and not what's going on when a driver is having a conversation that is expected to have some semblance of privacy involved ?

I thought when told about this "Wow", that is just crazy. So are we now living more and more in a police state, and why is this happening now ? Are there people in offices listening to these conversations, who might take such conversations, and then abuse the right of privacy in order to hurt or fire the individual in which they might not like (i.e. not pertaining to his or her job or job performance) ? Otherwise so they would take the information learned and use it to do harm to an individual ? What guarantees should a company have to give in writing, that the information gained in no way will be used in ways to cause harm or how long will such information be held by the company & by whom is the information being held by ? A company should be held liable for any damage that might occur to a driver or individual if such information is found to be gained for political or hateful purposes, and/or is abused, or is used inappropriately right ????....

The inside of a truck cab is a driver's personal space, and it should be respected by any company as just that, and not to become liken to an office in order to bug and eavesdrop on a driver right ????. Shouldn't a company have to have an agreement drawn up by a lawyer in which the individual/driver, and the company should have to sign off on ??? I thought a warrant of suspicion has to be ordered up, and then signed off on by a judge before someone can record private conversations between individuals ???

The whole thing stinks to me, and it sounds disgusting enough of a situation for sure, but what do you all think ? Some concerned drivers would like to know. I will give them your assessments.

The COTUS in noway guarantees that your employer won't spy on you while you are on the clock.

. No matter where a citizen is in life, there should be some privacy allowed that citizen for the preservation of liberty & justice for all. Work place environments should not be given total authority over a citizen, because in such bold justifications of, then comes abuse of the citizen without oversight, and a violation could then occur without proper recourse, especially if the violation is found to be oppressive and/or abusive in nature. A company can't own a human being, but slowly this is what the temptation by suggestion of (saying an employee has no rights of privacy while on a job or property for which I think is completely obsurd). This isn't 1861 again, and slavery ended on the job 200 years ago. We are better people than this, and we need to start acting it again. To refuse a man or woman certain rights no matter where they are in America, is pure greed, and is condoned by pure trash if you ask me. There is a healthy balance in it all, but that balance is broken now.

 

[Dekster]

People in stores are monitored by cameras all the time. People in banks too. Suddenly truck drivers are involved, and civilization has collapsed. Screw the fat cheetoes eating mofo hogging up 2/3rd of the highway.

 

[G.T.]

This is not a "police state" or government issue.

Its a zealot PRIVATE employer and the market of employees not demanding they change.

 

[beagle9]

This is not a "police state" or government issue.Its a zealot PRIVATE employer and the market of employees not demanding they change.

. It has long reaching tentacles in which are proven everytime one more step is made. It all leads to the police state eventually, and it leads to government learning more and more upon how to use the same tactics as the private sector uses to monitor and/or to control people. That's where it is all coming from (corporations and the monopolies), where as socialist/communist tactics are to be used in order to control the masses of people whether they are employee's or citizens.

 

[beagle9]

People in stores are monitored by cameras all the time. People in banks too. Suddenly truck drivers are involved, and civilization has collapsed. Screw the fat cheetoes eating mofo hogging up 2/3rd of the highway.

How on earth did this nation ever make it to become what it had become way back when ? Otherwise when we didn't have all this human controlling technology like we think we absolutely just have got to have now ? Pitiful is what it is... Cheetos eating fat truck drivers hogging up 2/3rds of the road eh ? LOL. The fact of the matter is that if them Cheeto eating drivers weren't out there, then you wouldn't eat Cheetos yourself, because their wouldn't be none on the store shelf for you to buy.

 

[Dekster]

People in stores are monitored by cameras all the time. People in banks too. Suddenly truck drivers are involved, and civilization has collapsed. Screw the fat cheetoes eating mofo hogging up 2/3rd of the highway.

How on earth did this nation ever make it to become what it had become way back when ? Otherwise when we didn't have all this human controlling technology like we think we absolutely just have got to have now ? Pitiful is what it is... Cheetos eating fat truck drivers hogging up 2/3rds of the road eh ? LOL. The fact of the matter is that if them Cheeto eating drivers weren't out there, then you wouldn't eat Cheetos yourself, because their wouldn't be none on the store shelf for you to buy.

That would be fine with me.

 

[beagle9]

Look at how technology had people thinking that they could just steal music, movies, and so many other crazy things that we as a nation would have never allowed in the past. The sky is the limit alright, and the lid has been removed from the rotten cookie jar now, and nobody has the courage to put it back on.