President Trump Releases JFK Files

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Another promise kept.


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Whig read some of the files last night:

I read about 250 or so documents last night. A lot of it involves tradecraft of creating legends for specific agents, shell companies, etc. But at least two interesting things stuck out. One was that Oswald was under continuing surveillance prior to the assassination and two, he met with a guy called Kostikov who was a KGB agent in Mexico City. Kostikov had prior involvement in the KGB executive action aka killing section.

Another two dealt with Howard Hunt and his relationship with the CIA. The first appeared a mundane query over $30k worth of funds sought for reimbursement. The second was over his book clearance. Why the first is interesting is that it seems to imply Hunt was getting funds from the CIA in 1972 in some form. That is when the Watergate burglary happened btw and it was sometimes speculated that it was the CIA that torpedoed Nixon on purpose via Hunt.

Hunt filled the action team with former CIA anti Communist Cuban assets that you can cross check with the multitude of docs released regarding anti Castro Cuban operations and naming specific names.


There is also references to the close relationship between Mossad and CIA at the time.

Posted by: whig
 
Did they 'really' expose the truth on it being a government assassination?

Or have they manufactured a story that can explain why it had to be kept from the public? Yeah, that's what I thought!

It's going to have to involve Russia and somehow national security!
 
Did they 'really' expose the truth on it being a government assassination?

Or have they manufactured a story that can explain why it had to be kept from the public? Yeah, that's what I thought!

It's going to have to involve Russia and somehow national security!
I have my own theories on what happened.

It might very well have been Cuban Exiles. What Castro did, the amount of Real Estate, the number of companies, as much as he stole (which is all leftists know how to do besides murder) was/is amazing.

I live in South Florida and I know a bunch of Cuban Exile types. I even know a guy that flew a P-51 in the Bay of Pigs invasion. He's in pretty bad shape now but he's not too bad for being 92 years old. Crazy old redneck swamper type. Reminds me of Totch Brown. Whatev

The Mob was also more than a little pissed at JFK. He cost them all those casinos and hotels etc.

Funny when you think about it -- Cuba could have been the Switzerland of the Western Hemisphere but they decided that being communist pig fuckers was better. It's still a shithole to this day.

So it could have been Cuban Exiles, The Mob or almost as Likely -- LBJ. He hated JFK. JFL would always mock him, make fun of him, insult in public...... Called him Landslide Lyndon (from the story of him stealing 'Ballot Box 13'.... Which he did)

Could have been the CIA. But that make sno sense unless CIA was in cahoots with the SF guys that were Captured by Fidel. The USA had to give Fidel a Tractor or a piece of construction equipment as ransom to get them back.

I don't think we'll ever know who killed Kennedy but one thing is sure..... He pissed off a lot of people in a very short time. And I'm 90% certain it's
 
Another promise kept.

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Yes and No .

There are 70 000 other documents .

But the FBI etc long ago shredded everything even hinting at the inside job which it was .

We must hope there is a real smart person who copied key documents before they were shredded, who will make a death bed confession or employ a Dead Man Switch to have evidence revealed after they pass on .

Let's hope there is a courageous 90 year old somewhere, ready to die who will give us the real story
 
Yes and No .

There are 70 000 other documents .


But the FBI etc long ago shredded everything even hinting at the inside job which it was .

We must hope there is a real smart person who copied key documents before they were shredded, who will make a death bed confession or employ a Dead Man Switch to have evidence revealed after they pass on .


Let's hope there is a courageous 90 year old somewhere, ready to die who will give us the real story
I'm not sure where the skullduggery is. Not completely sure why LBJ would do it, other than personal reasons. Not sure the CIA would bother. I don't think the Bay of Pigs was a big enough disaster to get them excited enough.

I don't think the Russians or the Cubans had the balls to do it. Besides, JFK was no threat to them. They kinda used him like a Hippie girl at a Grateful Dead Concert.

I don' tknow why Lee Harvey would sign his own Death Warrant, why he would care enough.

Who would profit most by JFK's death? Nobody. I don't think LBJ was smart enough.

Maybe it was revenge by The Mob. That, to me, is very possible. Maybe all the Special Forces guys he abandoned to Castro took it hard and decided to take him out. They might have teamed up with the CIA and got hold of a nitwit (Lee Harvey) to do it. SF works hand-in-glove with CIA anyway, so that's feasible.

But I don't think so. They're accustomed to fighting and dying for reasons that make no sense. Goes with being a soldier.

I'm gonna go with The Mob. Jack Ruby. Remember him? Mob-connected errand boy. He was dying anyway (cancer?) so the Mob gave him a job to do and promised to take care of his family if he knocked off Lee Harvey. The Mob was afraid they'd make him talk. They would have, too.

I'm gonna go with a "Fringe Element" of the Mob. Between JFK and RFK, they sure did piss them off. Sam Ginacana felt betrayed (Chicago), all the Miami Mob boys that felt betrayed...... The Mob got JFK elected. Everybody with two functioning braincells to rub together knows that and they felt like he betrayed them. Which, he did.

I say, The Mob. With some outside help.

Very confusing
 
No wonder they killed him.

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25 minutes before JFK was shot, a British newspaper received and anonymous tip about "some big news" in the United States. That caller has never been identified.
 
I have my own theories on what happened.

It might very well have been Cuban Exiles. What Castro did, the amount of Real Estate, the number of companies, as much as he stole (which is all leftists know how to do besides murder) was/is amazing.

I live in South Florida and I know a bunch of Cuban Exile types. I even know a guy that flew a P-51 in the Bay of Pigs invasion. He's in pretty bad shape now but he's not too bad for being 92 years old. Crazy old redneck swamper type. Reminds me of Totch Brown. Whatev

The Mob was also more than a little pissed at JFK. He cost them all those casinos and hotels etc.

Funny when you think about it -- Cuba could have been the Switzerland of the Western Hemisphere but they decided that being communist pig fuckers was better. It's still a shithole to this day.

So it could have been Cuban Exiles, The Mob or almost as Likely -- LBJ. He hated JFK. JFL would always mock him, make fun of him, insult in public...... Called him Landslide Lyndon (from the story of him stealing 'Ballot Box 13'.... Which he did)

Could have been the CIA. But that make sno sense unless CIA was in cahoots with the SF guys that were Captured by Fidel. The USA had to give Fidel a Tractor or a piece of construction equipment as ransom to get them back.

I don't think we'll ever know who killed Kennedy but one thing is sure..... He pissed off a lot of people in a very short time. And I'm 90% certain it's
Almost every one of the Cuban exiles was working for the mob when they weren't working for the CIA.

And, the CIA hired the mob directly, to kill Castro.

So when you say the Cubans, the CIA, and the mob, they're the same thing. 90% of the personnel in this case were working for all three teams.

Every one of the Cubans involved in the Kennedy case, were working for both the CIA and the mob. 90% of the Cubans who worked at the CIA's JMWAVE station were running drugs and weapons in their spare time.

The CIA's pilots were running drugs and weapons for the mob, and the CIA looked the other way while they were doing it. The CIA's mercenaries were training mob hit men, and the CIA looked the other way while they were doing it.

The CIA got in bed with the mob because they didn't want accountability. They wanted to kill Castro but point the finger at someone else. That's where people like Oswald come in. Convenient fall guys. Not important enough to be working directly for the mob, and not savvy enough to insert himself into Cuban affairs.

All this is supported by direct evidence. ZRRIFLE started even before Sheffield approached Maheu. The CIA was directly funding and organizing Castro assassination attempts even before they had the brilliant (not) idea of using the mob.

If the Warren Commission had a shred of credibility they would have EXPOSED the CIA. All they had to do was interview some Cubans. They could have subpoena'd them faster than the mob could kill them.

But instead they stupidly tried to save face even when there was nothing left to save. They could even have blamed Kennedy for his own death, because he was in bed with the mob even before the CIA was, he used the mob to get elected. But the Warren Commission stupidly tried to make him a hero, and protect the deep state, and let the real culprits off the hook.
 
I'm not sure where the skullduggery is. Not completely sure why LBJ would do it, other than personal reasons. Not sure the CIA would bother. I don't think the Bay of Pigs was a big enough disaster to get them excited enough.

I don't think the Russians or the Cubans had the balls to do it. Besides, JFK was no threat to them. They kinda used him like a Hippie girl at a Grateful Dead Concert.

I don' tknow why Lee Harvey would sign his own Death Warrant, why he would care enough.

Who would profit most by JFK's death? Nobody. I don't think LBJ was smart enough.

Maybe it was revenge by The Mob. That, to me, is very possible. Maybe all the Special Forces guys he abandoned to Castro took it hard and decided to take him out. They might have teamed up with the CIA and got hold of a nitwit (Lee Harvey) to do it. SF works hand-in-glove with CIA anyway, so that's feasible.

But I don't think so. They're accustomed to fighting and dying for reasons that make no sense. Goes with being a soldier.

I'm gonna go with The Mob. Jack Ruby. Remember him? Mob-connected errand boy. He was dying anyway (cancer?) so the Mob gave him a job to do and promised to take care of his family if he knocked off Lee Harvey. The Mob was afraid they'd make him talk. They would have, too.

I'm gonna go with a "Fringe Element" of the Mob. Between JFK and RFK, they sure did piss them off. Sam Ginacana felt betrayed (Chicago), all the Miami Mob boys that felt betrayed...... The Mob got JFK elected. Everybody with two functioning braincells to rub together knows that and they felt like he betrayed them. Which, he did.

I say, The Mob. With some outside help.

Very confusing
You are partially correct,the mob had a hand in it but it was mainly a CIA operation,the mob for sure hated the Kennedy’s sense they figured they got him elected he would turn a blind eye to their corruption same as Hoover did but he did just the opposite,going after them tooth and nail which is why a lot of people think the mob did it but the mob didn’t have the means to pull it off,they did not have the power to change the parade route at the last second,get the secret service to violate secret service protocols,set up,oswald as they did,control the media and alter the autopsy photos,only the government did hense the evidence the CIA pulled it off.even a former cia operative on his deathbed confession confessed it to his son in his final hours.

The CIA had the most to gain by it same as the mob but unlike the mob,had the power to pull it off.the cia wanted him gone because he was going to withdraw from Vietnam completely by 1965.he was slowly pulling us out of the war.once they killed jfk,Johnson gave them the war kennedy did not reversing his policys and esculating it sending in combat troops which kennedy refused.The cia knew Johnson would give them theur war they wanted,they helped him achive his lifelong dream to become potus so he owed them and returned them the favor they wanted in return.war means big profits for the corporations.
 
You are partially correct,the mob had a hand in it but it was mainly a CIA operation,the mob for sure hated the Kennedy’s sense they figured they got him elected he would turn a blind eye to their corruption same as Hoover did but he did just the opposite,going after them tooth and nail which is why a lot of people think the mob did it but the mob didn’t have the means to pull it off,they did not have the power to change the parade route at the last second,get the secret service to violate secret service protocols,set up,oswald as they did,control the media and alter the autopsy photos,only the government did hense the evidence the CIA pulled it off.even a former cia operative on his deathbed confession confessed it to his son in his final hours.

The CIA had the most to gain by it same as the mob but unlike the mob,had the power to pull it off.the cia wanted him gone because he was going to withdraw from Vietnam completely by 1965.he was slowly pulling us out of the war.once they killed jfk,Johnson gave them the war kennedy did not reversing his policys and esculating it sending in combat troops which kennedy refused.The cia knew Johnson would give them theur war they wanted,they helped him achive his lifelong dream to become potus so he owed them and returned them the favor they wanted in return.war means big profits for the corporations.

Yes. LBJ backfired on them, they thought they were going to get Cuba but they got Vietnam instead.

Not that they minded very much, but it took them a while to figure out they didn't mind. The CIA kept going after Castro for another few years, but it wasn't as high a priority anymore. (Because the Russians were in Vietnam too).

That lasted till about the mid 70's, at the end of the war, after RICO was passed and people began to turn.

Plus by that time the cocaine cartels were starting up thanks to the DEA, and then Iran/Contra and all that jazz.

That's an interesting story too. You know about Barry Seal? Probably the only name that appears in both JFK and Iran/Contra. In 1963 he was in the Louisiana Army National Guard, he was a radiotelephone operator. He trained with David Ferrie, that's where he met Oswald.


"According to his wife, Deborah, "Barry Seal flew a getaway plane out of Dallas after JFK was killed."

 
You are partially correct,the mob had a hand in it but it was mainly a CIA operation,the mob for sure hated the Kennedy’s sense they figured they got him elected he would turn a blind eye to their corruption same as Hoover did but he did just the opposite,going after them tooth and nail which is why a lot of people think the mob did it but the mob didn’t have the means to pull it off,they did not have the power to change the parade route at the last second,get the secret service to violate secret service protocols,set up,oswald as they did,control the media and alter the autopsy photos,only the government did hense the evidence the CIA pulled it off.even a former cia operative on his deathbed confession confessed it to his son in his final hours.

The CIA had the most to gain by it same as the mob but unlike the mob,had the power to pull it off.the cia wanted him gone because he was going to withdraw from Vietnam completely by 1965.he was slowly pulling us out of the war.once they killed jfk,Johnson gave them the war kennedy did not reversing his policys and esculating it sending in combat troops which kennedy refused.The cia knew Johnson would give them theur war they wanted,they helped him achive his lifelong dream to become potus so he owed them and returned them the favor they wanted in return.war means big profits for the corporations.
What did the CIA have to gain? :dunno:

JFK got us INTO the Viet Nam WAR by ineptly trying to enforce the 'Truman Doctrine'. Why would he want to precipitously yank us out?

You couldn't be more wrong on your conclusions if you tried. Not saying CIA operatives weren't involved, but the entire CIA? Ridiculous.

It was a revenge killing, IMO. Probably by a coalition of Cuban Exiles, some CIA types because they felt betrayed and maybe even LBJ. LBJ walked around with that 'Aw, shucks' hillbilly attitude but he was a ruthless dimocrap. And devious.
 
What did the CIA have to gain? :dunno:

JFK got us INTO the Viet Nam WAR by ineptly trying to enforce the 'Truman Doctrine'. Why would he want to precipitously yank us out?

You couldn't be more wrong on your conclusions if you tried. Not saying CIA operatives weren't involved, but the entire CIA? Ridiculous.

It was a revenge killing, IMO. Probably by a coalition of Cuban Exiles, some CIA types because they felt betrayed and maybe even LBJ. LBJ walked around with that 'Aw, shucks' hillbilly attitude but he was a ruthless dimocrap. And devious.
i just spelled it out for you what the CIA had to gain do you have reading comprehension problems? :uhoh3:

the CIA as a whole entire organization didnt do it ,just some rogue elements within the CIA did it,that is incorrect JFK got us into vietnam,you are going by what your history books in our corrupt school system has taught you,you need to read the two books JFK AND VIETNAN and TRAGEDY AND HOPE TRUMAN got us into vietnam,

there were plans implemented by the CIA during Eisenhowers last year for combat troops to be deployed that were nearly implemented,Eisenhower was a motherfucker who was at odds with stalin who urged Ike that stalin needed to be overtaken,that they should not stop at germany,stalin was intelligent enough to see stalin was a mass murderer,that he was killing his own civlians. that motherfucker Ike knew it and did NOTHING to help patriot stalin. stalin died mysteriously afterwards,some think Ike had a hand in it.

the plans to esculate vietnam by the CIA in Eisenhowers last year were nearly implemented,kennedy came in and resisted and started pulling troops out,LBJ came in and reversed kenendys policy and implemented the plans to the CIA wanted Eisenhower to use and almost did.

you need to read these two books,they DOCUMENT how kennedy resisted the military to start a war in vietnam,that LBJ was the one that sent in COMBAT troops,not kennedy,he only sent in advisors. In an interview with wlater kronkite two months before his assassination,you can see on the top right hand corner vietnam casualtys 59,that is a FAR CRY from the 58,000 johnson murdered dude so you realise how absurd that is to say kennedy got us into vietnam instead of johnson especially when its DOCUMENTED he was pulling us out/:abgg2q.jpg:

do you only read PARTS of posts? :uhoh3:because you missed this part that proves it was IMPOSSIBLE for the mob to do it.that only the CIA had the power to pull it off.

they did not have the power to change the parade route at the last second,get the secret service to violate secret service protocols,set up,oswald as they did,control the media and alter the autopsy photos,only the government did hense the evidence the CIA pulled it off.even a former cia operative on his deathbed confession confessed it to his son in his final hours.
 
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