President and First Lady send condolences to family of Missouri teen Michael Brown

They're selling postcards of the hanging
They're painting the passports brown
The beauty parlor is filled with sailors
The circus is in town
Here comes the blind commissioner
They've got him in a trance
One hand is tied to the tight-rope walker
The other is in his pants
And the riot squad they're restless
They need somewhere to go
As Lady and I look out tonight
From Desolation Row.

Bob Dylan
 

So what? What happened in the patrol car and on the street is what matters. Until the facts are known, we are all doing nothing but political posturing.

You have an agenda---your agenda is that white cops are all evil, hate all blacks, and put on the uniform as an excuse to kill blacks. Of course, you are full of shit.
 

Interesting but certainly not in a dispositive fashion.

Cop sees two men walking in the middle of the street and tells them to get on the sidewalk.

The men know that they've just committed a crime and then this cop pulls up. That's got to freak them out. They behave accordingly.

The cop can't make sense of why they're behaving as they are. He senses something isn't right.

This goes to explaining Brown's behavior, wrestling for the cop's gun and fleeing. He's not trying to kill the cop because he's mad about jaywalking, he's trying to kill the cop because he fears he's going to be arrested within a minute or so.

All the cop knows is that this jaywalker is suddenly trying to kill him.
 

Interesting but certainly not in a dispositive fashion.

Cop sees two men walking in the middle of the street and tells them to get on the sidewalk.

The men know that they've just committed a crime and then this cop pulls up. That's got to freak them out. They behave accordingly.

The cop can't make sense of why they're behaving as they are. He senses something isn't right.

This goes to explaining Brown's behavior, wrestling for the cop's gun and fleeing. He's not trying to kill the cop because he's mad about jaywalking, he's trying to kill the cop because he fears he's going to be arrested within a minute or so.

All the cop knows is that this jaywalker is suddenly trying to kill him.

Really? How exactly do you know this for a fact? At least THREE eyewitnesses say otherwise.
 

Interesting but certainly not in a dispositive fashion.

Cop sees two men walking in the middle of the street and tells them to get on the sidewalk.

The men know that they've just committed a crime and then this cop pulls up. That's got to freak them out. They behave accordingly.

The cop can't make sense of why they're behaving as they are. He senses something isn't right.

This goes to explaining Brown's behavior, wrestling for the cop's gun and fleeing. He's not trying to kill the cop because he's mad about jaywalking, he's trying to kill the cop because he fears he's going to be arrested within a minute or so.

All the cop knows is that this jaywalker is suddenly trying to kill him.

Really? How exactly do you know this for a fact? At least THREE eyewitnesses say otherwise.

I only take eyewitnesses seriously when they are on the witness stand under oath.
 
Interesting but certainly not in a dispositive fashion.

Cop sees two men walking in the middle of the street and tells them to get on the sidewalk.

The men know that they've just committed a crime and then this cop pulls up. That's got to freak them out. They behave accordingly.

The cop can't make sense of why they're behaving as they are. He senses something isn't right.

This goes to explaining Brown's behavior, wrestling for the cop's gun and fleeing. He's not trying to kill the cop because he's mad about jaywalking, he's trying to kill the cop because he fears he's going to be arrested within a minute or so.

All the cop knows is that this jaywalker is suddenly trying to kill him.

Really? How exactly do you know this for a fact? At least THREE eyewitnesses say otherwise.

I only take eyewitnesses seriously when they are on the witness stand under oath.

Does that include any police officers on the scene at the time?
 

Interesting but certainly not in a dispositive fashion.

Cop sees two men walking in the middle of the street and tells them to get on the sidewalk.

The men know that they've just committed a crime and then this cop pulls up. That's got to freak them out. They behave accordingly.

The cop can't make sense of why they're behaving as they are. He senses something isn't right.

This goes to explaining Brown's behavior, wrestling for the cop's gun and fleeing. He's not trying to kill the cop because he's mad about jaywalking, he's trying to kill the cop because he fears he's going to be arrested within a minute or so.

All the cop knows is that this jaywalker is suddenly trying to kill him.

Really? How exactly do you know this for a fact? At least THREE eyewitnesses say otherwise.

Do you understand the concept of parsimony.

Is it an everyday, or even a regular, occurrence in Ferguson for cops to pull their guns while in their car and fire the gun? Can we agree that this is irregular?

Can we agree that cops encounter a lot of uncooperative and belligerent people and don't flip out and assassinate every who gives them a hard time?

A cop encountered two mouthy men who are jaywalking is not very likely to flip out and want to kill one of them.

So, assuming that the cop is the one who flipped out for no reason strains credulity.

Brown though, knew that he had just robbed a store. This means he actually has a reason to be combative with the cop. He has reason to go for the cop's gun. He has reason to want to kill the cop. He has reason to flee.

The first witness who set the narrative admitted to robbing the store with Brown. He has every reason to lie, slant or shade the story to the benefit of himself and Brown. Once that story is out, other witnesses fit their story to the established narrative - this is human nature.

I don't believe the accomplice and I believe subsequent witnesses accounts of what was happening during the struggle are not independent observations.

The cops story makes the most sense and is simplest to believe with the fewest leaps of faith required.

To believe Brown requires us to accept a robber who physically assaulted a store owner was an angel and model of good behavior AFTER the cop asked him to get on the sidewalk and after he refused. So rebellious to the cop when it starts but then a choir boy after the cop stopped the car. What we're being asked to believe if behavior at crucial moments which is directly opposite of the defiant behavior actually exhibited only minutes before.
 
I'm still waiting for the motive for a cop to just execute this person.. other than the "he's a racist" bullshit.

What's the motive?
 

Interesting but certainly not in a dispositive fashion.

Cop sees two men walking in the middle of the street and tells them to get on the sidewalk.

The men know that they've just committed a crime and then this cop pulls up. That's got to freak them out. They behave accordingly.

The cop can't make sense of why they're behaving as they are. He senses something isn't right.

This goes to explaining Brown's behavior, wrestling for the cop's gun and fleeing. He's not trying to kill the cop because he's mad about jaywalking, he's trying to kill the cop because he fears he's going to be arrested within a minute or so.

All the cop knows is that this jaywalker is suddenly trying to kill him.

Really? How exactly do you know this for a fact? At least THREE eyewitnesses say otherwise.
Still siding with CRIMINALS I see. YOU never disappoint.
 
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I for one will let the facts come out before I judge anything. Getting to those is going to be an issue. Perhaps it would be wise of all of us to wait until we judge.
 
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