Pre-1995 Temp Reconstruction Shows MWp and LIA

[CrusaderFrank]

Yet, when researchers not at all connected with Mann use differant proxies, from very differant sources, they still come up with something that looks kinda like a hockey stick. With us on the high end right now.

"Not at all connected with Mann?" He sits on the boards of Climate Journals that approve their papers for publication. He's one of their buddies. The Climate Research industry consists of a very small clique of people who all know each other quite well.

Which tells us all we need to know about "peer review".

I have peer reviewed this post and find it accurate and awesome

 

[bripat9643]

Yet, when researchers not at all connected with Mann use differant proxies, from very differant sources, they still come up with something that looks kinda like a hockey stick. With us on the high end right now.

"Not at all connected with Mann?" He sits on the boards of Climate Journals that approve their papers for publication. He's one of their buddies. The Climate Research industry consists of a very small clique of people who all know each other quite well.

Which tells us all we need to know about "peer review".

That's why they call it PAL review.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yet, when researchers not at all connected with Mann use differant proxies, from very differant sources, they still come up with something that looks kinda like a hockey stick. With us on the high end right now.

"Not at all connected with Mann?" He sits on the boards of Climate Journals that approve their papers for publication. He's one of their buddies. The Climate Research industry consists of a very small clique of people who all know each other quite well.

As with the BEST study, no matter how the study is done, if it does not fit the preconcieved notions of those trying to deny what is currently happening, it will be found to be somehow wanting.

The same goes for warmist cult members.



Even if true, that would not prove the study was done correctly. The only way to prove it that is look at what was actually done. third party opinions about it are irrelevant.

In the meantime, the continental ice in Greenland and Anarctica continues to melt faster than predicted, .

Wrong. It's not even melting in Antartica. It's getting thicker.

the Arctic Ice is headed for an all time low, and we are having a hot year coming off a double La Nina, and still in ENSO neutral conditions. Reality is rapidly making the denialists look like the fools they are.

Total horseshit. Average global temperature is trending down, not up.

Oh, who to believe, Pattycake, or NASA?

NASA - Warm Ocean Currents Cause Majority of Ice Loss from Antarctica

WASHINGTON -- Warm ocean currents attacking the underside of ice shelves are the dominant cause of recent ice loss from Antarctica, a new study using measurements from NASA's Ice, Cloud, and land Elevation Satellite (ICESat) revealed.

An international team of scientists used a combination of satellite measurements and models to differentiate between the two known causes of melting ice shelves: warm ocean currents thawing the underbelly of the floating extensions of ice sheets and warm air melting them from above. The finding, published today in the journal Nature, brings scientists a step closer to providing reliable projections of future sea level rise.

The researchers concluded that 20 of the 54 ice shelves studied are being melted by warm ocean currents. Most of these are in West Antarctica, where inland glaciers flowing down to the coast and feeding into these thinning ice shelves have accelerated, draining more ice into the sea and contributing to sea-level rise. This ocean-driven thinning is responsible for the most widespread and rapid ice losses in West Antarctica, and for the majority of Antarctic ice sheet loss during the study period.

"We can lose an awful lot of ice to the sea without ever having summers warm enough to make the snow on top of the glaciers melt," said the study's lead author Hamish Pritchard of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, United Kingdom. "The oceans can do all the work from below."

To map the changing thickness of almost all the floating ice shelves around Antarctica, the team used a time series of 4.5 million surface height measurements taken by a laser instrument mounted on ICESat from October 2003 to October 2008. They measured how the ice shelf height changed over time and ran computer models to discard changes in ice thickness because of natural snow accumulation and compaction. The researchers also used a tide model that eliminated height changes caused by tides raising and lowering the ice shelves.

And then there is the little matter of the warmest nine of the ten warmest years on record occurring since 2000. And 2011, with a double La Nina still managed to come in as the ninth warmest. This year, with over a quarter of it in La Nina conditions, presently in neutral ENSO, may come in the top three if the present warmth keeps up. Watch out for the next El Nino!

But it is cooling? Sure, Wilson, sure.

NASA - NASA Finds 2011 Ninth-Warmest Year on Record