Poll: Majority of Democrats and Republicans support Medicare for all

[JoeB131]

You have heard of Cigna AARP? Yes?

You mean how the cocksuckers at Cigna have managed to scam money out of Medicare through the Medicare Part C scam corporate welfare bullshit.

Yeah, heard all about that.

Single Payer. No insurance companies. Problem fuckng solved, the rest of the world has already figured this out.

 

[BlueGin]

Under Medicare the Doc did routine blood test on Dad & discovered his red blood-cells were extremely low. They called saying take him to ER right away for blood transfusion. So we did & they looked him over, admitted him & gave him 4 pints over 2 days. Took him to a specialist who found colon cancer causing blood loss. Scheduled surgery for a few days later. 2 days later he was out farming, riding 4 wheeler when he got hit by a car traveling 60/mph. That scalped his head, broke his neck in 2 places, broke his back, pelvis, knee, arm & lots of road rash,

Medicare has been covering all this just fine. He has had great care & getting excellent rehab. We are all amazed he survived all this at 79-80 yrs old. Even more amazing, is they cured his cancer, sowed his scalp back on, mended bones, have him up & walking in rehab 6 hours a day. He will be out in a couple weeks & back to normal in a few months. Medicare is great coverage! Cheapo insurance would be flying their executives by helicopters to their jets, yachts & paradise islands to hide money while Dad died!

Medicare gives patients between 5/9 short term bed days and 5/9 long term bed days per year...usually 5 because the ACA cut the days allowed. After that you must sign over your life time reserve days...and when they are gone they are gone for good. The suplemental plans you pay for give you a few more. Medicare does not reimburse many tests or drugs because they deem them as an over diagnosis or not medically nescessary. They also don't pay for walkers,wheelchairs or other supplies.

 

[BlueGin]

Who is "they"?

You do realize every ER is required to give you care. And all hospitals have a indigent fund for the poor...right?

Have you seen the quality of care they give people in ER's. It's pretty much "Make sure they don't die here."

Even illegals can go from the ER to admission to the hospital for care. Infact many illegals come here with infectious deseases that have been untreated for years. Spend upwards of 2 /6 weeks or more in the hospital with a MAD310 application from Medicaid. Medicaid only reimburses the hospital pennies for this care...the majority comes from their indigent fund. Which US citizens get to pay for in the form of higher cost of care.

 

[BlueGin]

You have heard of Cigna AARP? Yes?

You mean how the cocksuckers at Cigna have managed to scam money out of Medicare through the Medicare Part C scam corporate welfare bullshit.

Yeah, heard all about that.

Single Payer. No insurance companies. Problem fuckng solved, the rest of the world has already figured this out.

Scam money out of Medicare? Again Mecicare doesn't cover anything. So.. no.

 

[KissMy]

Under Medicare the Doc did routine blood test on Dad & discovered his red blood-cells were extremely low. They called saying take him to ER right away for blood transfusion. So we did & they looked him over, admitted him & gave him 4 pints over 2 days. Took him to a specialist who found colon cancer causing blood loss. Scheduled surgery for a few days later. 2 days later he was out farming, riding 4 wheeler when he got hit by a car traveling 60/mph. That scalped his head, broke his neck in 2 places, broke his back, pelvis, knee, arm & lots of road rash,

Medicare has been covering all this just fine. He has had great care & getting excellent rehab. We are all amazed he survived all this at 79-80 yrs old. Even more amazing, is they cured his cancer, sowed his scalp back on, mended bones, have him up & walking in rehab 6 hours a day. He will be out in a couple weeks & back to normal in a few months. Medicare is great coverage! Cheapo insurance would be flying their executives by helicopters to their jets, yachts & paradise islands to hide money while Dad died!

Medicare gives patients between 5/9 short term bed days and 5/9 long term bed days per year...usually 5 because the ACA cut the days allowed. After that you must sign over your life time reserve days...and when they are gone they are gone for good. The suplemental plans you pay for give you a few more. Medicare does not reimburse many tests or drugs because they deem them with an over diagnosis or not medically nescessary. They also don't pay for walkers,wheelchairs or other supplies.

He was in 4 times for hip & knee replacements over the last several years prior to this. They are still paying. Then he has therapy and 100 more days of skilled nursing they pay for.

I had knee surgery with private healthcare & they charged $50,000 & I had to pay $10,000. Under Medicare they only charged $2,000

 

[Lesh]

So let's recap.

The OP is bullshit and completely backwards and the attacks on Medicare are bullshit as well.

Ok then

 

[BlueGin]

Under Medicare the Doc did routine blood test on Dad & discovered his red blood-cells were extremely low. They called saying take him to ER right away for blood transfusion. So we did & they looked him over, admitted him & gave him 4 pints over 2 days. Took him to a specialist who found colon cancer causing blood loss. Scheduled surgery for a few days later. 2 days later he was out farming, riding 4 wheeler when he got hit by a car traveling 60/mph. That scalped his head, broke his neck in 2 places, broke his back, pelvis, knee, arm & lots of road rash,

Medicare has been covering all this just fine. He has had great care & getting excellent rehab. We are all amazed he survived all this at 79-80 yrs old. Even more amazing, is they cured his cancer, sowed his scalp back on, mended bones, have him up & walking in rehab 6 hours a day. He will be out in a couple weeks & back to normal in a few months. Medicare is great coverage! Cheapo insurance would be flying their executives by helicopters to their jets, yachts & paradise islands to hide money while Dad died!

Medicare gives patients between 5/9 short term bed days and 5/9 long term bed days per year...usually 5 because the ACA cut the days allowed. After that you must sign over your life time reserve days...and when they are gone they are gone for good. The suplemental plans you pay for give you a few more. Medicare does not reimburse many tests or drugs because they deem them with an over diagnosis or not medically nescessary. They also don't pay for walkers,wheelchairs or other supplies.

He was in 4 times for hip & knee replacements over the last several years prior to this. They are still paying. Then he has therapy and 100 more days of skilled nursing they pay for.

I had knee surgery with private healthcare & they charged $50,000 & I had to pay $10,000. Under Medicare they only charged $2,000

You are talking rehab now. Medicare typically pays for the first 20 days then you kick in a co payment for the remaining 21/100 days. That is IF your doctors sign off on them. If not ..you pay those charges out of pocket.

Or most people buy secondary insurance to pick up the balance. Still whatever the secondary or tertiary dont cover..the hospital eats. If Medicare is primary.

 

[KissMy]

Under Medicare the Doc did routine blood test on Dad & discovered his red blood-cells were extremely low. They called saying take him to ER right away for blood transfusion. So we did & they looked him over, admitted him & gave him 4 pints over 2 days. Took him to a specialist who found colon cancer causing blood loss. Scheduled surgery for a few days later. 2 days later he was out farming, riding 4 wheeler when he got hit by a car traveling 60/mph. That scalped his head, broke his neck in 2 places, broke his back, pelvis, knee, arm & lots of road rash,

Medicare has been covering all this just fine. He has had great care & getting excellent rehab. We are all amazed he survived all this at 79-80 yrs old. Even more amazing, is they cured his cancer, sowed his scalp back on, mended bones, have him up & walking in rehab 6 hours a day. He will be out in a couple weeks & back to normal in a few months. Medicare is great coverage! Cheapo insurance would be flying their executives by helicopters to their jets, yachts & paradise islands to hide money while Dad died!

Medicare gives patients between 5/9 short term bed days and 5/9 long term bed days per year...usually 5 because the ACA cut the days allowed. After that you must sign over your life time reserve days...and when they are gone they are gone for good. The suplemental plans you pay for give you a few more. Medicare does not reimburse many tests or drugs because they deem them with an over diagnosis or not medically nescessary. They also don't pay for walkers,wheelchairs or other supplies.

He was in 4 times for hip & knee replacements over the last several years prior to this. They are still paying. Then he has therapy and 100 more days of skilled nursing they pay for.

I had knee surgery with private healthcare & they charged $50,000 & I had to pay $10,000. Under Medicare they only charged $2,000

You are talking rehab now. Medicare typically pays for the first 20 days then you kick in a co payment for the remaining 21/100 days. That is IF your doctors sign off on them. If not ..you pay those charges out of pocket.

LOL Doctors sign off when needed. Are you saying Medicare should pay out for fraudulent claims?

 

[BlueGin]

So let's recap.

The OP is bullshit and completely backwards and the attacks on Medicare are bullshit as well.

Ok then

Lets recap...you are a moron.

 

[BlueGin]

Under Medicare the Doc did routine blood test on Dad & discovered his red blood-cells were extremely low. They called saying take him to ER right away for blood transfusion. So we did & they looked him over, admitted him & gave him 4 pints over 2 days. Took him to a specialist who found colon cancer causing blood loss. Scheduled surgery for a few days later. 2 days later he was out farming, riding 4 wheeler when he got hit by a car traveling 60/mph. That scalped his head, broke his neck in 2 places, broke his back, pelvis, knee, arm & lots of road rash,

Medicare has been covering all this just fine. He has had great care & getting excellent rehab. We are all amazed he survived all this at 79-80 yrs old. Even more amazing, is they cured his cancer, sowed his scalp back on, mended bones, have him up & walking in rehab 6 hours a day. He will be out in a couple weeks & back to normal in a few months. Medicare is great coverage! Cheapo insurance would be flying their executives by helicopters to their jets, yachts & paradise islands to hide money while Dad died!

Medicare gives patients between 5/9 short term bed days and 5/9 long term bed days per year...usually 5 because the ACA cut the days allowed. After that you must sign over your life time reserve days...and when they are gone they are gone for good. The suplemental plans you pay for give you a few more. Medicare does not reimburse many tests or drugs because they deem them with an over diagnosis or not medically nescessary. They also don't pay for walkers,wheelchairs or other supplies.

He was in 4 times for hip & knee replacements over the last several years prior to this. They are still paying. Then he has therapy and 100 more days of skilled nursing they pay for.

I had knee surgery with private healthcare & they charged $50,000 & I had to pay $10,000. Under Medicare they only charged $2,000

You are talking rehab now. Medicare typically pays for the first 20 days then you kick in a co payment for the remaining 21/100 days. That is IF your doctors sign off on them. If not ..you pay those charges out of pocket.

LOL Doctors sign off when needed. Are you saying Medicare should pay out for fraudulent claims?

I'm saying they rarely sign off on all rehab days.

 

[JoeB131]

Scam money out of Medicare? Again Mecicare doesn't cover anything. So.. no.

Yet, they are writing these big check to Cigna

SCAM

 

[KissMy]

Under Medicare the Doc did routine blood test on Dad & discovered his red blood-cells were extremely low. They called saying take him to ER right away for blood transfusion. So we did & they looked him over, admitted him & gave him 4 pints over 2 days. Took him to a specialist who found colon cancer causing blood loss. Scheduled surgery for a few days later. 2 days later he was out farming, riding 4 wheeler when he got hit by a car traveling 60/mph. That scalped his head, broke his neck in 2 places, broke his back, pelvis, knee, arm & lots of road rash,

Medicare has been covering all this just fine. He has had great care & getting excellent rehab. We are all amazed he survived all this at 79-80 yrs old. Even more amazing, is they cured his cancer, sowed his scalp back on, mended bones, have him up & walking in rehab 6 hours a day. He will be out in a couple weeks & back to normal in a few months. Medicare is great coverage! Cheapo insurance would be flying their executives by helicopters to their jets, yachts & paradise islands to hide money while Dad died!

Medicare gives patients between 5/9 short term bed days and 5/9 long term bed days per year...usually 5 because the ACA cut the days allowed. After that you must sign over your life time reserve days...and when they are gone they are gone for good. The suplemental plans you pay for give you a few more. Medicare does not reimburse many tests or drugs because they deem them with an over diagnosis or not medically nescessary. They also don't pay for walkers,wheelchairs or other supplies.

He was in 4 times for hip & knee replacements over the last several years prior to this. They are still paying. Then he has therapy and 100 more days of skilled nursing they pay for.

I had knee surgery with private healthcare & they charged $50,000 & I had to pay $10,000. Under Medicare they only charged $2,000

You are talking rehab now. Medicare typically pays for the first 20 days then you kick in a co payment for the remaining 21/100 days. That is IF your doctors sign off on them. If not ..you pay those charges out of pocket.

LOL Doctors sign off when needed. Are you saying Medicare should pay out for fraudulent claims?

I'm saying they rarely sign off on all rehab days.

All Lies!

Medicare rehabbed my Dad great after the 4 prior hip & knee replacements. He was back out there climbing ladders, tractors, combines & farming again!

On the other hand my younger father-in-law was climbing a ladder when a rung broke causing him to fall breaking his hip over a year before he was eligible for medicare. They charged him $55,000 for hip replacement & he still can't hardly walk. Now he is on medicare, but the prior hack replacement with defective hardware has damaged his femur bone beyond repair. He is trying to sue those quacks for damages.

 

[BlueGin]

Scam money out of Medicare? Again Mecicare doesn't cover anything. So.. no.

Yet, they are writing these big check to Cigna

SCAM

Yes. Medicare is a scam. Most things liberals support are.

 

[Desperado]

Define All
Everyone in the Country?
US Citizens Only?

 

[BlueGin]

Medicare gives patients between 5/9 short term bed days and 5/9 long term bed days per year...usually 5 because the ACA cut the days allowed. After that you must sign over your life time reserve days...and when they are gone they are gone for good. The suplemental plans you pay for give you a few more. Medicare does not reimburse many tests or drugs because they deem them with an over diagnosis or not medically nescessary. They also don't pay for walkers,wheelchairs or other supplies.

He was in 4 times for hip & knee replacements over the last several years prior to this. They are still paying. Then he has therapy and 100 more days of skilled nursing they pay for.

I had knee surgery with private healthcare & they charged $50,000 & I had to pay $10,000. Under Medicare they only charged $2,000

You are talking rehab now. Medicare typically pays for the first 20 days then you kick in a co payment for the remaining 21/100 days. That is IF your doctors sign off on them. If not ..you pay those charges out of pocket.

LOL Doctors sign off when needed. Are you saying Medicare should pay out for fraudulent claims?

I'm saying they rarely sign off on all rehab days.

All Lies!

Medicare rehabbed my Dad great after the 4 prior hip & knee replacements. He was back out there farming again!

On the other hand my father-in-law was climbing a ladder when a rung broke causing him to fall breaking his hip a year before he was eligible for medicare. They charged him $55,000 for hip replacement & he still can't hardly walk. Now he is on medicare, but the prior hack replacement with defective hardware has damaged his femur bone beyond repair. He is trying to sue those quacks for damages.

You do realize the same doctors provide services for Medicare and Commercial plans...right?

 

[karpenter]

Name Rat-Hole To China Programs That Were Repealed

 

[Redfish]

Bankruptcy for all!

.
Uh, guy, most countries with single payer spend 8% of their GDP on health care and get better results than we do paying 17% of our GDP on it.

Medicare for all would save us money, as it would remove things like investor payouts and CEO salaries and marketing expenses.

And all the hospitals and clinics would go bankrupt because Medicare refuses to pay for anything and reimbursements are pennies.

There are all kinds of tweaks that can be made. One would be a whole new cottage industry of entry-level preventive and diagnostic walk-in clinics.

We would definitely have to increase and re-construct reimbursement schedules.

We just have to THINK a little bit. But that appears to be a lost art.

So here comes real Single Payer.
.

do you look forward to a 60% federal tax rate? that's what "free" medical care for all would result in. It aint free, dude. in addition someone has to pay the huge federal beaurocracy that would be created to administer it. do you look forward to an ignorant GS7 making your medical decisions for you?

please actually think about what you say you want.

 

[BlueGin]

Bankruptcy for all!

.
Uh, guy, most countries with single payer spend 8% of their GDP on health care and get better results than we do paying 17% of our GDP on it.

Medicare for all would save us money, as it would remove things like investor payouts and CEO salaries and marketing expenses.

And all the hospitals and clinics would go bankrupt because Medicare refuses to pay for anything and reimbursements are pennies.

There are all kinds of tweaks that can be made. One would be a whole new cottage industry of entry-level preventive and diagnostic walk-in clinics.

We would definitely have to increase and re-construct reimbursement schedules.

We just have to THINK a little bit. But that appears to be a lost art.

So here comes real Single Payer.
.

do you look forward to a 60% federal tax rate? that's what "free" medical care for all would result in. It aint free, dude. in addition someone has to pay the huge federal beaurocracy that would be created to administer it. do you look forward to an ignorant GS7 making your medical decisions for you?

please actually think about what you say you want.

Most of the low rung paper pushers at Medicare/Medicaid have the dismissive attitude of most government workers. They don't give a shit. The higher up's are there to make money. Upwards of three figures,

Yet Libs want to whine about corporate greed. No one is more greedy than the government. Both state and federal.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

'A Reuters/Ipsos poll shows 85% of Democrats and 52% of Republicans support Medicare for all.

Why it matters: This single-payer system has divided the Democratic Party internally and gave Republicans a new way to attack Democrats in 2018. But this poll is the first to suggest that a majority of Americans on both sides of the aisle actually like this policy and that it could be a winning issue for candidates.

By the numbers: Two-thirds of Democratic nominees in 41 battleground House districts "want to expand the government’s role in healthcare," per Reuters.

• At least 70 House Democrats have joined the "Medicare for All" caucus, with more expected after the November midterms.
• And most House Dems support a Medicare for All bill, which has "six members of the Blue Dog caucus of fiscally conservative Democrats signing on as co-sponsors," Reuters notes.

Be smart: This policy is only going to get more attention as we head into the 2020 presidential election, when it will likely be a litmus test for Democratic candidates.'

Poll: Majority of Democrats and Republicans support Medicare for all

For better or worse - like it or not - it looks like single payer will become a fact of life in America is inevitable.

I support a car for every single American over the age of 16 too. Oh but wait...how are we going to PAY for it?

That's when the support plummets, amirite?

It is cheaper than our current system.

Maybe, but you get what you pay for.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Who is "they"?

You do realize every ER is required to give you care. And all hospitals have a indigent fund for the poor...right?

Have you seen the quality of care they give people in ER's. It's pretty much "Make sure they don't die here."

I have, and it's pretty much "do everything possible to guard against a lawsuit." Then they proceed to run every test under the sun whether it's related to the injury or not.