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Question, where would American politics be without Christianity?
In fact, where would the world be?
I speculate that without the influence of the Christian faith, politics in America would look more like it does in say Europe or Russia, that is, those places that have less of a Christian influence. And without America, the world would have fallen to either the Nazis or Communist Russia long ago.
In fact, the Founding Fathers arguably came from a culture with the heaviest Christian influence in human history.
Today, as Christianity has waned significantly, we have the leaders we have today that has come from such a culture
Which is better?
I will never make the mistake of calling the GOP Christian, and neither should you as many would just as soon see all the religious "nuts" end up like Charley and out of their party. But if that happened, the GOP would look pretty much identical to the DNC. In fact, it may collapse altogether. We all know that many in the GOP could secretly care less about fighting things like gun control and abortion and the gender cult, or even the massive spending. No, they just want the spending to change flow a bit in their favor.
The Founders were right, in that only a moral people can be a free people, and that the Christian faith is largely responsible for this moral fiber. People either have to regulate their own moral behavior, or the state will be forced to do it for them, like we see the state do in prisons across the country.
The Founders were also correct that the incestuous relationship between the the state and the church was unacceptable, like they saw in England where the state preached from the pulpits, and why they came to American for religious freedom. Human politics can never achieve the righteousness of God because human politics is all about human power, power that rightfully belongs to God in the first place. At the same time, if Christians pull out of politics entirely, the whole system goes to hell, literally. It is an odd conundrum, which probably has no real solution. There is no perfect form of government and no perfect moral people. All that can be done is try to promote the very forces that create a free society to the best of your ability to buy us all more time as eventually all governments fall, and usually due to corruption from within resulting from corruption flowing from society from which they come. And this is what Charlie Kirk was all about.
If I am right, which is that Christianity really is the backbone of personal freedom, how can it be promoted effectively without being mandated? It really is all about morality and not economic distribution that the Left claims it is. Think about it, the Left is all about materialism and really believes that society will be just and moral if only money is forcibly distributed in a way they think is just an moral.
It really is insane.
In fact, where would the world be?
I speculate that without the influence of the Christian faith, politics in America would look more like it does in say Europe or Russia, that is, those places that have less of a Christian influence. And without America, the world would have fallen to either the Nazis or Communist Russia long ago.
In fact, the Founding Fathers arguably came from a culture with the heaviest Christian influence in human history.
Today, as Christianity has waned significantly, we have the leaders we have today that has come from such a culture
Which is better?
I will never make the mistake of calling the GOP Christian, and neither should you as many would just as soon see all the religious "nuts" end up like Charley and out of their party. But if that happened, the GOP would look pretty much identical to the DNC. In fact, it may collapse altogether. We all know that many in the GOP could secretly care less about fighting things like gun control and abortion and the gender cult, or even the massive spending. No, they just want the spending to change flow a bit in their favor.
The Founders were right, in that only a moral people can be a free people, and that the Christian faith is largely responsible for this moral fiber. People either have to regulate their own moral behavior, or the state will be forced to do it for them, like we see the state do in prisons across the country.
The Founders were also correct that the incestuous relationship between the the state and the church was unacceptable, like they saw in England where the state preached from the pulpits, and why they came to American for religious freedom. Human politics can never achieve the righteousness of God because human politics is all about human power, power that rightfully belongs to God in the first place. At the same time, if Christians pull out of politics entirely, the whole system goes to hell, literally. It is an odd conundrum, which probably has no real solution. There is no perfect form of government and no perfect moral people. All that can be done is try to promote the very forces that create a free society to the best of your ability to buy us all more time as eventually all governments fall, and usually due to corruption from within resulting from corruption flowing from society from which they come. And this is what Charlie Kirk was all about.
If I am right, which is that Christianity really is the backbone of personal freedom, how can it be promoted effectively without being mandated? It really is all about morality and not economic distribution that the Left claims it is. Think about it, the Left is all about materialism and really believes that society will be just and moral if only money is forcibly distributed in a way they think is just an moral.
It really is insane.
