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In another thread, Tired Of Democrats Use Of "Fascist", the OP attempted to explain why use of the term 'Fascist," and "Nazi" applied to the Right, had no real meaning.
It is simply a lie.



There is more to be said, but that thread has about 300 responses already, and has become unwieldy for readers wishing to see all or most of it.

So, this short summry:

The Right cannot be Fascist or Nazi or any of the pejoratives, because the terms are of and for the Left.



1. ..". Fascism was mostly in place by about 1910. Historically, the taproot of Fascism lies in the 1890s--in the "Crisis of Marxism" and in the interaction of nineteenth-century revolutionary socialism with fin de siècle(world-weary sophistication) anti-rationalism and anti-(classical) liberalism.

2. Fascism was a movement with its roots primarily in the left .Its leaders and initiators were secular-minded, highly progressive intellectuals, hard-headed haters of existing society and especially of its most bourgeois aspects.

3. Fascism began as a revision of Marxism by Marxists, a revision which developed in successive stages, so that these Marxists gradually stopped thinking of themselves as Marxists, and eventually stopped thinking of themselves as socialists. They never stopped thinking of themselves as anti-(classical) liberal revolutionaries.

The Crisis of Marxism occurred in the 1890s. Marxist intellectuals could claim to speak for mass socialist movements across continental Europe, yet it became clear in those years that Marxism had survived into a world which Marx had believed could not possibly exist. The workers were becoming richer, the working class was fragmented into sections with different interests, technological advance was accelerating rather than meeting a roadblock, the "rate of profit" was not falling, the number of wealthy investors ("magnates of capital") was not falling but increasing, industrial concentration was not increasing, (22) and in all countries the workers were putting their country above their class. .... the hollowness of Marxism was being exposed. The long-awaited publication of Volume III of Marx's Capital in 1894 revealed that Marx simply had no serious solution to the "great contradiction" between Volumes I-II and the real behavior of prices."
The Mystery of Fascism

by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

www.la-articles.org.uk






So.......are you Democrat propagandists about to claim that the Right is..........


MARXIST?????
 
More hot air.

By the definition of the word, Trump is a fascist.
Actually, by your self-assessment, you are pretty much an idiot.


You should jot this down: just because your masters tell you to make such a claim, you are really not obliged to make yourself look stupid.


Fascists, Marxists, Jacobins, Nazis, Bolsheviks, Maoists,.....and the current Democrat Party, are all of the Left.


That is historically correct . If you had an education, you would know that. And if you had any integrity, you wouldn't lie about it.



Try to better yourself.
 
In another thread, Tired Of Democrats Use Of "Fascist", the OP attempted to explain why use of the term 'Fascist," and "Nazi" applied to the Right, had no real meaning.
It is simply a lie.



There is more to be said, but that thread has about 300 responses already, and has become unwieldy for readers wishing to see all or most of it.

So, this short summry:

The Right cannot be Fascist or Nazi or any of the pejoratives, because the terms are of and for the Left.



1. ..". Fascism was mostly in place by about 1910. Historically, the taproot of Fascism lies in the 1890s--in the "Crisis of Marxism" and in the interaction of nineteenth-century revolutionary socialism with fin de siècle(world-weary sophistication) anti-rationalism and anti-(classical) liberalism.

2. Fascism was a movement with its roots primarily in the left .Its leaders and initiators were secular-minded, highly progressive intellectuals, hard-headed haters of existing society and especially of its most bourgeois aspects.

3. Fascism began as a revision of Marxism by Marxists, a revision which developed in successive stages, so that these Marxists gradually stopped thinking of themselves as Marxists, and eventually stopped thinking of themselves as socialists. They never stopped thinking of themselves as anti-(classical) liberal revolutionaries.

The Crisis of Marxism occurred in the 1890s. Marxist intellectuals could claim to speak for mass socialist movements across continental Europe, yet it became clear in those years that Marxism had survived into a world which Marx had believed could not possibly exist. The workers were becoming richer, the working class was fragmented into sections with different interests, technological advance was accelerating rather than meeting a roadblock, the "rate of profit" was not falling, the number of wealthy investors ("magnates of capital") was not falling but increasing, industrial concentration was not increasing, (22) and in all countries the workers were putting their country above their class. .... the hollowness of Marxism was being exposed. The long-awaited publication of Volume III of Marx's Capital in 1894 revealed that Marx simply had no serious solution to the "great contradiction" between Volumes I-II and the real behavior of prices."
The Mystery of Fascism

by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

www.la-articles.org.uk






So.......are you Democrat propagandists about to claim that the Right is..........


MARXIST?????
If you look up the definition of fascism it pretty much spells out word for word what Democrats have been doing the last several years.
 
Democrats lost the debate on policy. On putting America first, on the border, fossil fuels, jobs, government regulation, PC, Woke, Taxes, inflation... Name calling and division is all Dems have left. When was the last time (hell first time) Kamala detailed any proposed policy different than FJB?
 
The widespread attempt to apply Left-wing terms to their political opponents, and the ringing success as we have seen in these pages, reflects how successful the Marxists/Democrats have been in co-opting all the venues of information.

Let me ammend that: the venues that pour information into lazy minds.
Readers, intellectuals, those will to do the research, know the truth.




"Did You Know Google “Redefined the Word ‘Fascism’?
The partiality of news sources is becoming a serious problem.
BY JACK WOOD • DECEMBER 11, 2017

T
he world’s most powerful search engine made a subtle change to its online dictionary last year. Watchdog journalists News Busters exposed this change back in February. Their article revealed how Google altered its definition of the word “fascism” during the 2016 United States presidential election campaign. Tom Blumer of News Busters wrote on February 6, “Google’s current dictionary definition of ‘fascism’ returned in searches on that word now limits its application exclusively to ‘right-wing’ governmental systems and views.”This change sits in stark contrast to the historically accepted meaning of the word.”
www.thetrumpet.com

Did You Know Google Redefined the Word ‘Fascism’?

The partiality of news sources is becoming a serious problem.
www.thetrumpet.com
 
No matter what they do, no matter what they say, Trumpsters are always the victim.

Always.

Trumpsters make college snowflakes look like Stallone.
No, the easily manipulated, folks like you, are the victim.


Just as a large percent of the German population, not party members, followed the Nazis, you the same with the Marxists/Democrats.



  1. The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical. Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century” C-Span Lecture


To identify said dupes, notice the folks who call the Right Fascists and Nazis.
 
The widespread attempt to apply Left-wing terms to their political opponents, and the ringing success as we have seen in these pages, reflects how successful the Marxists/Democrats have been in co-opting all the venues of information.

Let me ammend that: the venues that pour information into lazy minds.
Readers, intellectuals, those will to do the research, know the truth.




"Did You Know Google “Redefined the Word ‘Fascism’?
The partiality of news sources is becoming a serious problem.
BY JACK WOOD • DECEMBER 11, 2017

T
he world’s most powerful search engine made a subtle change to its online dictionary last year. Watchdog journalists News Busters exposed this change back in February. Their article revealed how Google altered its definition of the word “fascism” during the 2016 United States presidential election campaign. Tom Blumer of News Busters wrote on February 6, “Google’s current dictionary definition of ‘fascism’ returned in searches on that word now limits its application exclusively to ‘right-wing’ governmental systems and views.”This change sits in stark contrast to the historically accepted meaning of the word.”
www.thetrumpet.com

Did You Know Google Redefined the Word ‘Fascism’?

The partiality of news sources is becoming a serious problem.
www.thetrumpet.com
 
" ... there’s a tendency among bureaucrats, politicians, academics, and other members of the New Class to convince the people to hand over the major decisions of their lives to the “experts.” These experts aren’t all in the government, but they all collude with government to convince people that the experts have all the answers and that the people need to hand the reins over to them. They will tell us what to eat, what to drive, what to think.

It’s an approach that puts politics before economics. Because it is an attempt to politicize peoples’ lives.”
Nazis: Still Socialists, by Jonah Goldberg, National Review





If you turn your right to think and to question over to experts and bureaucrats, you will vote Democrat.
 
Democrats lost the debate on policy. On putting America first, on the border, fossil fuels, jobs, government regulation, PC, Woke, Taxes, inflation... Name calling and division is all Dems have left. When was the last time (hell first time) Kamala detailed any proposed policy different than FJB?
Well. . . .in fairness to Kamala, she has stolen some popular ideas from Trump that Joe didn't use in his campaign like "No tax on tips." And she has promised to give away a whole bunch of money to this or that group that I don't remember Biden promising.

She isn't bringing up her more fascist side on the campaign trail and the Democrat propaganda machine known as the MSM is carefully not requiring her to, but if you look at her comments over just the past four years, it is there. Just on the issue of free speech:

"Kamala Harris is on the wrong side in the global war on free speech."

 
Why is it so important for the Democrat propagandists to affix the terms "Fascist" and "Nazi" to the Right?


Saul Alinsky wrote:
This quote from Saul Alinsky (late communist) in "Rules for Radicals" relates so well to the democrat party today, "accuse your opponent of what you are doing, to create confusion and to inculcate voters against evidence of your own guilt."?

So.....who are the Nazis????





If logic applies, this means that both the Right and the Left see Fascists and Nazis as dishonorable and dangerous.
The difference, of course, is simply where the terms are most accurate.
 
.....both the Right and the Left see Fascists and Nazis as dishonorable and dangerous.
The difference, of course, is simply where the terms are most accurate.




A simple test for "Fascist" is to see which side engages in state worship, which is the basis for Mussolini's creation of Fascism.



"After 1919, the Fascists developed a theory of the state; until then this was the one element in Fascist political theory which had not been elaborated. Its elaboration, in an extended public debate, gave rise to the "totalitarian" view of the state, notoriously expounded in Mussolini's formula, "Everything in the state, nothing against the state, nothing outside the state." [The word "totalitarian" (totalitario) was first used against Fascism by a liberal opponent, Giovanni Amendola. It was then taken up proudly by Fascists to characterize their own form of state. Later the term was widely employed to refer to the common features of the Fascist, Soviet, and Nazi dictatorships or to denote an ideal type of unlimited government. In this sense, the word was in common use among Anglophone intellectuals by 1935, and in the popular media by 1941. Ironically, Fascist Italy was in practice much less "totalitarian" than the Soviet Union or the Third Reich, though the regime was methodically moving toward totalitarianism.]"
The Mystery of Fascism
by David Ramsay Steele




"Even if one does not consider the liberal administrations of the recent past fascist, Mr. Goldberg is correct to see the liberalism of today to be state worship, which built upon the original statist liberalism of the Wilson administration.Mr. Goldberg has, unlike the leftists who yell the term, made the strongest possible case that Americans today live in a soft form of fascism, a statist liberal society whose citizens are unaware of the roots of ideas they hold." http://www.nysun.com/arts/americas-fascist-moment/68954/ A review of Liberal Fascism





State worship: so which party deserves the title "Fascist"?
Right, the Democrat Party.
Add the lie about the Right to the other 50 that have been exposed.
 
In another thread, Tired Of Democrats Use Of "Fascist", the OP attempted to explain why use of the term 'Fascist," and "Nazi" applied to the Right, had no real meaning.
It is simply a lie.



There is more to be said, but that thread has about 300 responses already, and has become unwieldy for readers wishing to see all or most of it.

So, this short summry:

The Right cannot be Fascist or Nazi or any of the pejoratives, because the terms are of and for the Left.



1. ..". Fascism was mostly in place by about 1910. Historically, the taproot of Fascism lies in the 1890s--in the "Crisis of Marxism" and in the interaction of nineteenth-century revolutionary socialism with fin de siècle(world-weary sophistication) anti-rationalism and anti-(classical) liberalism.

2. Fascism was a movement with its roots primarily in the left .Its leaders and initiators were secular-minded, highly progressive intellectuals, hard-headed haters of existing society and especially of its most bourgeois aspects.

3. Fascism began as a revision of Marxism by Marxists, a revision which developed in successive stages, so that these Marxists gradually stopped thinking of themselves as Marxists, and eventually stopped thinking of themselves as socialists. They never stopped thinking of themselves as anti-(classical) liberal revolutionaries.

The Crisis of Marxism occurred in the 1890s. Marxist intellectuals could claim to speak for mass socialist movements across continental Europe, yet it became clear in those years that Marxism had survived into a world which Marx had believed could not possibly exist. The workers were becoming richer, the working class was fragmented into sections with different interests, technological advance was accelerating rather than meeting a roadblock, the "rate of profit" was not falling, the number of wealthy investors ("magnates of capital") was not falling but increasing, industrial concentration was not increasing, (22) and in all countries the workers were putting their country above their class. .... the hollowness of Marxism was being exposed. The long-awaited publication of Volume III of Marx's Capital in 1894 revealed that Marx simply had no serious solution to the "great contradiction" between Volumes I-II and the real behavior of prices."
The Mystery of Fascism

by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

www.la-articles.org.uk






So.......are you Democrat propagandists about to claim that the Right is..........


MARXIST?????
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In another thread, Tired Of Democrats Use Of "Fascist", the OP attempted to explain why use of the term 'Fascist," and "Nazi" applied to the Right, had no real meaning.
It is simply a lie.



There is more to be said, but that thread has about 300 responses already, and has become unwieldy for readers wishing to see all or most of it.

So, this short summry:

The Right cannot be Fascist or Nazi or any of the pejoratives, because the terms are of and for the Left.



1. ..". Fascism was mostly in place by about 1910. Historically, the taproot of Fascism lies in the 1890s--in the "Crisis of Marxism" and in the interaction of nineteenth-century revolutionary socialism with fin de siècle(world-weary sophistication) anti-rationalism and anti-(classical) liberalism.

2. Fascism was a movement with its roots primarily in the left .Its leaders and initiators were secular-minded, highly progressive intellectuals, hard-headed haters of existing society and especially of its most bourgeois aspects.

3. Fascism began as a revision of Marxism by Marxists, a revision which developed in successive stages, so that these Marxists gradually stopped thinking of themselves as Marxists, and eventually stopped thinking of themselves as socialists. They never stopped thinking of themselves as anti-(classical) liberal revolutionaries.

The Crisis of Marxism occurred in the 1890s. Marxist intellectuals could claim to speak for mass socialist movements across continental Europe, yet it became clear in those years that Marxism had survived into a world which Marx had believed could not possibly exist. The workers were becoming richer, the working class was fragmented into sections with different interests, technological advance was accelerating rather than meeting a roadblock, the "rate of profit" was not falling, the number of wealthy investors ("magnates of capital") was not falling but increasing, industrial concentration was not increasing, (22) and in all countries the workers were putting their country above their class. .... the hollowness of Marxism was being exposed. The long-awaited publication of Volume III of Marx's Capital in 1894 revealed that Marx simply had no serious solution to the "great contradiction" between Volumes I-II and the real behavior of prices."
The Mystery of Fascism

by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

www.la-articles.org.uk






So.......are you Democrat propagandists about to claim that the Right is..........


MARXIST?????
actually, fascism is the union of government and corporate power.

the military industrial complex is fascism.

globalism is fascism these days too, because it's actually an agenda created by multinational corporations achieving state capture over several states (countries) at once.
 
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