Police Culture Must Be Changed

Or I will and sue the shit out of them.
Cops cant do whatever they want. Period.
Go ahead... after you comply you can sue or fight the arrest... but you can't not comply with their orders....
Its people like you who give cops a bad name and cause violent encounters... don't blame the cops man.... look in the mirror... check your attitude....
 
Murdered? Maybe. The body came video, if the cop was wearing one, which I hope, would be definitive.

If the woman attacked him with a knife, and he shot to defend himself, then no, not murder.

If she didn't, then yeah, murder might be in the cards.

But I choose to wait till I see the evidence.
The body cam video shows her lunging at cop with knife while using baby as a shield. Police are allowed to defend themselves.
Mother knife 1.webp
 
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'I am traumatized': Father recounts police shooting inside Independence apartment that killed baby, mother

INDEPENDENCE, Mo. — Mitchell Holder still lives in his Independence apartment, but he can no longer sleep in his bedroom.

"It’s very difficult for me to be in here," Holder told KSHB 41 Tuesday. "In this room, it feels like the presences of both of them — of souls."

Holder said the Nov. 7 police shooting happened in the bedroom he shared with his girlfriend, Maria Pike, and his infant daughter, Destinii.

Holder said his mother, Talisa Coombs, and Pike got into an argument over who was best suited to take care of baby Destinii.

Independence police and investigators have not said how Pike or Destinii died, but that the mother had a knife and an officer fired their weapon.

Holder said Tuesday that he did not see Pike with a knife.


The police shot and killed a mother and her 2 year old child. The child was shot in the head. The police who did this need to be put in prison for life with no parole. This kind of thing must stop.
The very likely biased account of the baby father is hardly sufficient as a basis to claim anything about police culture.
 
'I am traumatized': Father recounts police shooting inside Independence apartment that killed baby, mother

INDEPENDENCE, Mo. — Mitchell Holder still lives in his Independence apartment, but he can no longer sleep in his bedroom.

"It’s very difficult for me to be in here," Holder told KSHB 41 Tuesday. "In this room, it feels like the presences of both of them — of souls."

Holder said the Nov. 7 police shooting happened in the bedroom he shared with his girlfriend, Maria Pike, and his infant daughter, Destinii.

Holder said his mother, Talisa Coombs, and Pike got into an argument over who was best suited to take care of baby Destinii.

Independence police and investigators have not said how Pike or Destinii died, but that the mother had a knife and an officer fired their weapon.

Holder said Tuesday that he did not see Pike with a knife.


The police shot and killed a mother and her 2 year old child. The child was shot in the head. The police who did this need to be put in prison for life with no parole. This kind of thing must stop.
You need to get your facts straight before attempting defamation of character of police.

First off the "2 year old child" was actually only a 2 month old baby barely passed the abortion age limit.

Second, is the unhinged mother was using it as a shield while attempting to murder a police officer.

Third, we aren't going to jail police for defending their life against unhinged loons attempting to kill them or cause great harm.

Forth, that father is attempting to profit off the death of his crazy girlfriend who was attempting to murder police.

Lastly, that father's only true nightmare is, he was with that crazy woman.
 
You implied me knowing my rights is why cops get violent. Same thing. You are blaming the victim.
Imagine a society where the cops are afraid of doing their job because they can be jailed or at least fired for doing their job but behaving too rude or too harsh or stepping an inch behind 'the letter of the law'. And thus, these cops aren't feared and aren't respected. Where it is more appropriate for a cop to turn a blind eye on something or respond only formally, rather than doing their job properly. And believe me, you don't want to live in such a society.
 
Imagine a society where the cops are afraid of doing their job because they can be jailed or at least fired for doing their job but behaving too rude or too harsh or stepping an inch behind 'the letter of the law'. And thus, these cops aren't feared and aren't respected. Where it is more appropriate for a cop to turn a blind eye on something or respond only formally, rather than doing their job properly. And believe me, you don't want to live in such a society.
Apparently they have a fear of doing their job now. Thats why, instead of protecting peoples rights, they would rather shit on them.
 
You implied me knowing my rights is why cops get violent. Same thing. You are blaming the victim.
You aren't a victim... if you antagonize interfere with or disobey an order from a police officer that does not make you a victim... it makes you disorderly and a criminal after you are arrested... but not a victim... society is a victim of you....
 
You aren't a victim... if you antagonize interfere with or disobey an order from a police officer that does not make you a victim... it makes you disorderly and a criminal after you are arrested... but not a victim... society is a victim of you....
If a police officer gets violent for me not breaking a law, and im not allowed to fight back without getting fucking shot, im not a victim?
You people and your police states make me sick.
 
Apparently they have a fear of doing their job now. Thats why, instead of protecting peoples rights, they would rather shit on them.
If they have a fear of doing their job, then protecting people's rights wouldn't be their main concern.
 
If a police officer gets violent for me not breaking a law, and im not allowed to fight back without getting fucking shot, im not a victim?
You people and your police states make me sick.
If you are responsible for any escalation you are not a victim...
PERIOD.... I don't care if a cop kicks your ass if its due to you not following orders I support that ass kicking... a cop does not know how big a threat you are or may be... and you don't always know why you are being ordered to do something and why... the cop has the badge... you don't....
 
If you are responsible for any escalation you are not a victim...
PERIOD.... I don't care if a cop kicks your ass if its due to you not following orders I support that ass kicking... a cop does not know how big a threat you are or may be... and you don't always know why you are being ordered to do something and why... the cop has the badge... you don't....
I will be so glad when the human race grows the fuck up.
 
'I am traumatized': Father recounts police shooting inside Independence apartment that killed baby, mother

INDEPENDENCE, Mo. — Mitchell Holder still lives in his Independence apartment, but he can no longer sleep in his bedroom.

"It’s very difficult for me to be in here," Holder told KSHB 41 Tuesday. "In this room, it feels like the presences of both of them — of souls."

Holder said the Nov. 7 police shooting happened in the bedroom he shared with his girlfriend, Maria Pike, and his infant daughter, Destinii.

Holder said his mother, Talisa Coombs, and Pike got into an argument over who was best suited to take care of baby Destinii.

Independence police and investigators have not said how Pike or Destinii died, but that the mother had a knife and an officer fired their weapon.

Holder said Tuesday that he did not see Pike with a knife.


The police shot and killed a mother and her 2 year old child. The child was shot in the head. The police who did this need to be put in prison for life with no parole. This kind of thing must stop.
Police officers of all colors, from the palest of Swedish Americans to the darkest black cop in Mississippi, will regard black suspects as guilty unless proven innocent, dangerous unless rendered safe, disrespectful until they demonstrate respect.

They feel the same about white suspects, but whites get a little more benefit of the doubt before the officers (of all colors, remember) mentally categorize them as suspects.

This is not based on hatred and evil, but on stastics. The percent of criminals who are black and the prrcent of blacks who are criminal are both shockingly high.

Cops want to go home safely at the end of their shift, just like everyone else with the job. When my son was a deputy constable, I assume that he took those kinds of statistics into account when he when he with a diversity of people during his day. I assume that because he made it through seven or eight years alive, though having sustained a few injuries.

Guess who from?

The other factor is very much cultural. The media is constantly telling blacks that they were downtrodden by police and the police owe them a version of “respect” that is sometimes difficult for police to understand. They will often give offense without meaning to, or realizing it.

You have to put yourself in the police officers place. A police officer goes through his day, dealing with a limited set of types of people. Nearly all of the white people that they meet are very respectful to the point of being differential then when they meet a young black male who is surly, entitled, and ready to make the worst assumptions about the police officer, the officers Spidey sense tells him to be careful in approaching, this person.

As a white person, when I speak to a black person, I am well aware of the hundreds of years of history of black oppression by whites. Without being condescending, I’ll make a point to be as respectful and friendly as possible. Like many white people in positions of authority, I look for opportunities to help black person up the ladder, knowing that there is this history.

For their own safety, young black men need to realize that there is a history of black on white violence, and black on police violence. It’s not hundreds of years, but it has been going on since the 60s. They should be ready to show respect and understand that the police officers version of returning respect may look quite different from other whites they are used to.
 
I will be so glad when the human race grows the fuck up.
You are the one who needs to grow up and come to the realization that the world does not revolve around you and if you break the law you will be arrested booked and given a court date... if you resist in any way... don't cry about what happens next because its all on you at that point...
 
Cops must realize that Working with County Sheriffs / DOJ / ICE / BP …in the Deportations of Criminal Illegals is more important than fear of Mayors or Unions
 

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