Police Body Camera Footage Proves George Floyd Was Not "Murdered"
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jc456
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Pack of cigarettes 8 bucks, why didn’t he give them back?
lantern2814
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Sorry your ******* uneducated racist piece of shit. Three times the lethal amount and you excuse it by saying he had a tolerance. Translation: addicted. Maybe Floyd should have returned the cigarettes he passed the fake bill for and this doesn’t happen. Floyd escalated the situation liar. Let’s let a large drug addled man attack you and watch your reaction. Idiot.
JoeB131
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Ooohh....poor baby.. they hurt your feelings by not following your morality.
Reality- the law recognizes addiction as a disability. Deal with it.
Well, since your avatar is a flaming Nazi Gasbag, that seems appropriate.
I never saw Indy murder an unarmed person in four movies. Maybe the next one, "Indiana Jones and the Search for Social Security."
JoeB131
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Except Floyd wasn't attacking anyone. He was completely cooperating with the police at that point. There was no reason to escalate to lethal fource. Chauvin is going to prison.
WTH_Progs?
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Ah, so the reason you like Indiana Jones is he's not a cop. That says a lot why you're PROG. You a black man or social justice warrior?
WTH_Progs?
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You can't prove that because it's not true. Floyd wouldn't get in the car and was high as **** not making a bit of sense. How deep did you dig to suggest Floyd was cooperative?
JoeB131
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Naw, the reason I like his character is that he's a work of fiction. If someone ACTUALLY did the stuff he did, he'd probably be in trouble.
But kind of fun when he punches Nazis.
JoeB131
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At the time Chauvin put his knee on his neck, he was handcuffed and not going anywhere.
it was murder. Deal with it.
lantern2814
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No it wasn't liar. Deal with it. Chauvin does not get convicted of murder. Deal with it. No mention of ANY trauma to the neck, windpipe, or anything relating to your fantasy. Deal with it.
Oldestyle
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The drug rehab industry took in 47 Billion dollars last year, Joey! The "law" recognizes addicts as people suffering from a disability because the drug rehab industry has paid politicians big bucks to pass those laws. It's not that they ARE suffering from a real disability...it's that there are a whole lot of people making money if you call it that!
Oldestyle
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If Floyd has cooperated with the Police he would have stayed in the back of the cruiser when he was put there. He freaked out and fought to get out of the back seat of that Police car and THAT was when he ended up down on the ground with multiple police officers on top of him! The Police DIDN'T escalate things...Floyd did. The Police didn't use lethal force...Floyd died of a drug overdose.
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It just means that Floyd's family has a better case against the police department than against Chauvin. Because he followed his training, the culpability is primarily on management for having authorized a technique that can be lethal.
So Chauvin won't likely be charged, but he will probably have to go into hiding. The police department will likely settle out of court with Floyd's family for a large but undisclosed sum.
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No he didn't die of drug overdose, I'm sure Floyd has OD before this incident. The cops pulled him out.
You know if this was a white man who got killed by a knee on the whites man neck and a black man officer, I would bet you'd be ready to tar and feather him and then hang him (the officer)
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Completely cooperating with police? So why wasn't he in the squad car going to jail instead of handcuffed on the ground.
And why would Chauvin go to jail for floyd dying of a drug overdose?
mikegriffith1
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It is also worth noting that Derek Chauvin is only 5'9" and weighs only 140 pounds. George Floyd was 6'3" tall and weighed 223 pounds. The police body-cam footage shows that it took several police officers to push Floyd into the back seat of the police car, and that Floyd was strong enough to push his way out of the car and come out the other side. That's why it took more than one officer to pin him on the ground after he had pushed his way out of the police car.
So any thought that this was the big, mean, powerful Officer Chauvin vs. the poor little ole George Floyd is a myth.
And did anyone notice that in the body-cam footage we see Floyd apparently try to kick one of the officers while he pushes his way out of the police car?
And, again, Floyd could have avoided even having the police called in the first place if he had returned the cigarettes he had stolen, as he was asked to do twice by the Cup Foods employees. But, no, this "kind man," this "good father," refused to give back the cigarettes he'd just stolen. So, then and only then did one of the Cup Foods employees call 911 to report Floyd's theft and use of a phony $20 bill.
Ah, yes, keep talking. Repeat for everyone what you said in the History forum, where you praised Mao and said he brought "peace and stability" to China--and just never you mind the tens of millions of Chinese whom he murdered in the process. Ditto for Stalin.
No, I don't think China and Russia were ideal places before Mao and Stalin took them over, but they were much better off then than they were after Mao and Stalin established their murderous regimes.
And do repeat for everyone your claim that Red China was a better place to live than Free China on Taiwan. Do repeat that astonishing lie. You never did explain why thousands of Chinese in Red China risked their lives trying to get to Taiwan. Humm, maybe because Taiwan had freedom of religion, because Taiwan didn't put millions of people in concentration camps, did not prohibit people from leaving if they wanted to leave, had free enterprise, etc., etc.?
You're a lying piece of pro-communist garbage. I never said the Nanking Massacre "wasn't that bad." I said it was a horrific crime and that the officers responsible for it deserved the harshest punishment, but I also pointed out that Red China's myth that 300,000 civilians died during the massacre is now rejected even by most "mainstream historians," and that the original eyewitnesses and earliest reporters on the massacre put the death toll at a fraction of that number.
[JoeB's usual anti-religious, ahistorical bigotry deleted, not worth answering, not to mention irrelevant.]
No clear line between murder and manslaughter?!!!! Maybe in Red China, but not here in America. Heard of "involuntary manslaughter"? That means you killed someone but did not intend to kill them, but that your actions were negligent/irresponsible enough that you deserve some punishment for the person's death. Second-degree murder is the deliberate killing of a person but killing them without planning to kill them ahead of time (pre-meditated).
Why not throw the book at Chauvin and make an example of him? Because most of the crowd did not see all the events that preceded Floyd's being pinned on the ground. Because the body-cam footage clearly shows that Floyd caused the whole incident in the first place, lied about not being able to breathe, lied about not being on drugs, strongly resisted arrest, and had multiple chances to avoid a physical confrontation by simply getting into the back of the police car. God help the accused person who gets you on their jury.
So any thought that this was the big, mean, powerful Officer Chauvin vs. the poor little ole George Floyd is a myth.
And did anyone notice that in the body-cam footage we see Floyd apparently try to kick one of the officers while he pushes his way out of the police car?
And, again, Floyd could have avoided even having the police called in the first place if he had returned the cigarettes he had stolen, as he was asked to do twice by the Cup Foods employees. But, no, this "kind man," this "good father," refused to give back the cigarettes he'd just stolen. So, then and only then did one of the Cup Foods employees call 911 to report Floyd's theft and use of a phony $20 bill.
Ah, yes, keep talking. Repeat for everyone what you said in the History forum, where you praised Mao and said he brought "peace and stability" to China--and just never you mind the tens of millions of Chinese whom he murdered in the process. Ditto for Stalin.
No, I don't think China and Russia were ideal places before Mao and Stalin took them over, but they were much better off then than they were after Mao and Stalin established their murderous regimes.
And do repeat for everyone your claim that Red China was a better place to live than Free China on Taiwan. Do repeat that astonishing lie. You never did explain why thousands of Chinese in Red China risked their lives trying to get to Taiwan. Humm, maybe because Taiwan had freedom of religion, because Taiwan didn't put millions of people in concentration camps, did not prohibit people from leaving if they wanted to leave, had free enterprise, etc., etc.?
You're a lying piece of pro-communist garbage. I never said the Nanking Massacre "wasn't that bad." I said it was a horrific crime and that the officers responsible for it deserved the harshest punishment, but I also pointed out that Red China's myth that 300,000 civilians died during the massacre is now rejected even by most "mainstream historians," and that the original eyewitnesses and earliest reporters on the massacre put the death toll at a fraction of that number.
[JoeB's usual anti-religious, ahistorical bigotry deleted, not worth answering, not to mention irrelevant.]
No clear line between murder and manslaughter?!!!! Maybe in Red China, but not here in America. Heard of "involuntary manslaughter"? That means you killed someone but did not intend to kill them, but that your actions were negligent/irresponsible enough that you deserve some punishment for the person's death. Second-degree murder is the deliberate killing of a person but killing them without planning to kill them ahead of time (pre-meditated).
Why not throw the book at Chauvin and make an example of him? Because most of the crowd did not see all the events that preceded Floyd's being pinned on the ground. Because the body-cam footage clearly shows that Floyd caused the whole incident in the first place, lied about not being able to breathe, lied about not being on drugs, strongly resisted arrest, and had multiple chances to avoid a physical confrontation by simply getting into the back of the police car. God help the accused person who gets you on their jury.
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JoeB131
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He's totally going down. if the case comes down to those horrifying videos versus some "expert" talking about milligrams of chemicals the jury can't pronounce, then he's going down. Deal with it.
Even if some juror was a secret racist harboring any thought of giving him a pass, the threat of burning down the city should get his head straight.
Quite the contrary, addiction is a medical issue, not a moral or criminal one. We don't treat it enough like a medical issue, if anything.
Except the most senior member of the MPD got on the stand and said that tactic was out of line... So, um, no.
JoeB131
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Yes, we get it, Axis Mikey, he was a big scary black man, and the thought of a big scary black man makes you soil your magic underwear. We totally get why a member of the racist Mormon Cult wouldn't see the basic humanity of a black person.
Realistically, Chauvin had three of his buddies there to help him. He also has a long history of pulling shit like this.
Prosecutors: 14-year-old boy cried ‘mom’ as Chauvin knelt on his back for 17 minutes
The former Minneapolis police officer charged with murder in the killing of George Floyd knelt on the teen’s back for 17 minutes in a domestic assault call from 2017, according to a court document filed by the office of the Minnesota Attorney General.
www.mprnews.org
Moving right along.
Wow. that kind of comment makes me think of what people like you would have done the day Jesus was Crucified.
The point is, it was ONLY a $20.00 pack of cigarettes. It was not worth escalating it up to what it was escalted up to. Take the pack of smokes from him and write him a citation. Done.
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No. We treat out of control criminal drug addicts the same regardless of race.
