Pocahontas rolls out 2020 proposal to break up America’s biggest tech monopolies like Facebook

[Brain357]

So did government help create our monopolies? If so why do you defend them?

These companies are very successful at what they do, the government did not make them so and they should quit punishing success


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They have helped amazon a lot with special tax deals.

The Fed Govt has?


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Government sure has. And they seem to have figured out how to play the fed game.
Amazon Will Pay a Whopping $0 in Federal Taxes on $11.2 Billion Profits

Their Fed tax burden was the result of the same law everyone else is under as well. No special treatment from the Feds


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Did amazon lobbying effect law?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

These companies are very successful at what they do, the government did not make them so and they should quit punishing success


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They have helped amazon a lot with special tax deals.

The Fed Govt has?


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Government sure has. And they seem to have figured out how to play the fed game.
Amazon Will Pay a Whopping $0 in Federal Taxes on $11.2 Billion Profits

Their Fed tax burden was the result of the same law everyone else is under as well. No special treatment from the Feds


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Yes they have the accountants to play the fed game. But they certainly get special state and local deals.

As do a great many companies


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[Brain357]

They have helped amazon a lot with special tax deals.

The Fed Govt has?


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Government sure has. And they seem to have figured out how to play the fed game.
Amazon Will Pay a Whopping $0 in Federal Taxes on $11.2 Billion Profits

Their Fed tax burden was the result of the same law everyone else is under as well. No special treatment from the Feds


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Yes they have the accountants to play the fed game. But they certainly get special state and local deals.

As do a great many companies


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And amazon may have lobbied for changes to the tax law.

 

[basquebromance]

i wonder what will people's reactions be when Pocahontas becomes the first woman president!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The Fed Govt has?


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Government sure has. And they seem to have figured out how to play the fed game.
Amazon Will Pay a Whopping $0 in Federal Taxes on $11.2 Billion Profits

Their Fed tax burden was the result of the same law everyone else is under as well. No special treatment from the Feds


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

Yes they have the accountants to play the fed game. But they certainly get special state and local deals.

As do a great many companies


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And amazon may have lobbied for changes to the tax law.

Again, as do many companies. They have not gotten special treatment other than to have states kiss their ass trying to lure them...based on their massive success not causing it


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[Fang]

these companies have too much power over our society and our economy and our country and our democracy and our government and our private sector

Elizabeth Warren proposes Big Tech breakup

Interesting. I'm not saying I agree or disagree. But she caught me attention at least.

See how this works Liberals? I don't care about your whining about the "bad orange guy", the false accusations and the constant race card and hoaxes. But if you talk real policy (not the kind the gets rid of air travel in 12 years) Trump supporters might listen.

 

[boedicca]

i wonder what will people's reactions be when Pocahontas becomes the first woman president!

I'm sure the people with beards in the Anti-Matter Universe will be thrilled with Anti-Matter Fauxcahontas is elected. Fortunately for us, that will never happen in this universe.

 

[DOTR]

Why the big push to break up Facebook? ...

all of them. twitter, google, etc

Again, why break them up?

No one is being forced to use them. ...

Because it’s a popular position and she is moving to Co opt it. But she won’t actually do it. Facebook and google are huge supporters of hers. They understand...as Wall Street did when Hillary told them about the difference between her public and her real position.
Democrats can’t survive without the help of huge corporations and big media. It’s that simple.

LEAKED AUDIO: Google Discusses 'Steering' the Conservative Movement | Breitbart

 

[justoffal]

these companies have too much power over our society and our economy and our country and our democracy and our government and our private sector

Elizabeth Warren proposes Big Tech breakup

Wow, she finally has one good idea.

Stole it from Trump.

Bob Barr is already starting.

Jo

 

[Sunni Man]

i wonder what will people's reactions be when Pocahontas becomes the first woman president!

...................................

 

[Brain357]

Government sure has. And they seem to have figured out how to play the fed game.
Amazon Will Pay a Whopping $0 in Federal Taxes on $11.2 Billion Profits

Their Fed tax burden was the result of the same law everyone else is under as well. No special treatment from the Feds


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Yes they have the accountants to play the fed game. But they certainly get special state and local deals.

As do a great many companies


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And amazon may have lobbied for changes to the tax law.

Again, as do many companies. They have not gotten special treatment other than to have states kiss their ass trying to lure them...based on their massive success not causing it


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Deals with billions from states is a big deal.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Their Fed tax burden was the result of the same law everyone else is under as well. No special treatment from the Feds


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Yes they have the accountants to play the fed game. But they certainly get special state and local deals.

As do a great many companies


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

And amazon may have lobbied for changes to the tax law.

Again, as do many companies. They have not gotten special treatment other than to have states kiss their ass trying to lure them...based on their massive success not causing it


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Deals with billions from states is a big deal.

yes, they are. but they did not get them when they were a tiny company, they get them because of their success, they are not the reason for it

 

[Brain357]

Yes they have the accountants to play the fed game. But they certainly get special state and local deals.

As do a great many companies


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And amazon may have lobbied for changes to the tax law.

Again, as do many companies. They have not gotten special treatment other than to have states kiss their ass trying to lure them...based on their massive success not causing it


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Deals with billions from states is a big deal.

yes, they are. but they did not get them when they were a tiny company, they get them because of their success, they are not the reason for it

It gives them an advantage over competition.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

As do a great many companies


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And amazon may have lobbied for changes to the tax law.

Again, as do many companies. They have not gotten special treatment other than to have states kiss their ass trying to lure them...based on their massive success not causing it


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Deals with billions from states is a big deal.

yes, they are. but they did not get them when they were a tiny company, they get them because of their success, they are not the reason for it

It gives them an advantage over competition.

Yep it does, that is what success does for someone. Their competition is welcome to be successful and then get states kissing their asses.

 

[McRocket]

'Sen. Elizabeth Warren unveiled a plan Friday to break up massive technology companies such as Amazon and Facebook, the clearest proposal yet in the 2020 presidential race to limit the growth of Silicon Valley.

In a blog post, the Democratic presidential hopeful from Massachusetts wrote that she wants to make “big, structural changes to the tech sector to promote more competition.” Those overhauls would include “breaking up” Amazon, Facebook and Google — companies that have come under scrutiny for user data security and consolidation of services such as e-commerce and digital advertising.


“Today’s big tech companies have too much power — too much power over our economy, our society, and our democracy,” Warren wrote. “They’ve bulldozed competition, used our private information for profit, and tilted the playing field against everyone else. And in the process, they have hurt small businesses and stifled innovation.”'

Sen. Elizabeth Warren pushes to break up big tech companies like Amazon and Facebook

Yet another progressive who does not have a CLUE how business works.

You ignorant cow...what about Walmart? That is a MEGA company - why not them?

Maybe because she realizes that Walmart is GREAT for lower income Americans. That they offer BY FAR the lowest prices you can get on most goods and that many poor/lower middle class Americans depend on their low prices to help make ends meet.
That is the power of big corporations - buy in bulk, pass on savings to consumers.

It's called free enterprise and there is NOTHING wrong with it.

And before you knuckleheads who say that Walmart forced Ma and Pa stores out of business? You are damn right. Because they charged more for products then Walmart because that is the best they could offer. I would rather have a Walmart and fewer Ma and Pa stores in my town/city and save a pile of dough rather than the reverse.


So, she wants to split up Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Google?

Let's look at each:

Amazon: they sell a ton of products and have fantastic selection - usually at lower prices. If you shop online (and unless you are an ignoramus/dinosaur - you do), you will be hard pressed to not find what you want at the lowest price on either Walmart or Amazon. And what the heck is wrong with that?
So long as they provide great product selection at the cheapest price - who gives a shit?

Apple: they sell incredibly overpriced goods to the middle class and up (yes, I own their products - but I am getting sick of them). There is TONS of competition in the areas they reside...so there is ZERO chance that they will corner the market any time soon. If anything, their brand has taken a beating lately.

Facebook: only idiots/weak people are on Facebook (unless it is for business). Some moronic site that allows people to feel like they are WAY more popular then they really are. It is a terribly invasive business model...and it too has fallen on hard times lately - more so than Apple.
But the point is that no one HAS to be on it. It's just social media. I despise it and NEVER use it except for the games they have sometimes or occasionally for business. But I would never dream of trying to break it up. Please believe me, they will break up one day the way they are going all by themselves. Their reputation has plummeted over the last few years.

Here is a (IMO) brilliant, 1 minute mocking of Facebook:



Google: Hello? JUST DON'T USE IT. I use DuckDuckGo - have for a while (and there are other options). It works great and it does not monitor your searches...so it does not send you shit loads of ads.
Again, Google is some invasive search engine (among other things) that is terrible and only idiots use it.
It will go the way of the dodo eventually if they don't change as more and more people get sick of it.

ALL of these corporations either do genuine good for America (like Walmart and Amazon) or offer silly/overpriced products/services that people will catch on to (the rest).

And consumers will smarten up eventually and ditch the ones that suck OR force them to change.

But these companies are NOT damaging our lives UNLESS YOU LET THEM.

Free enterprise works.

 

[basquebromance]

we need real competition in this field. amazon google have a monopoly and they compete by being able to keep all the information from these companies and they know how much to charge. its like being an umpire in baseball and own the team at the same time. the rule is you're either an umpire or an owner, but you cant be both. hopefully, she can force this kind of breakup. this is about giving small business A FIGHTIN CHANCE! Zuck claims he's not a monopoly he's STONE COLD WRONG. if you want to check what your college roomates are up to you have to go on facebook, you have no other choice, my friends. challenging facebook is now referred to as "the kill zone". the platform needs to be broken off the individual company, my friends. it means the next good idea has a A FIGHTIN CHANCE to mature.

 

[basquebromance]

Pocahontas said that her dream running mate would be Theodore Roosevelt.

meanwhile...

Facebook vs. Apple Is Tech’s Next Big Rivalry

 

[basquebromance]

“This is Hunger Games,” Warren says of Amazon’s search for a second headquarter location and the offers cities made to draw them in. “It’s not just about Amazon,” she adds. “It’s about corporate power in Washington.”

 

[westwall]

these companies have too much power over our society and our economy and our country and our democracy and our government and our private sector

Elizabeth Warren proposes Big Tech breakup

Wow, she finally has one good idea.

Stole it from Trump.

Trump is borderline socialist on many issues and has brought you rubes to it.

Hmm, none of things he has done gives even the slightest evidence for your claim. In fact ALL of his actions have so far been the exact opposite. You must be an idiot.

 

[Marion Morrison]

This has potential to be good!