Plastic bottles and cans deposit scheme

[Captain Caveman]

Norway has a pretty good idea. It's called the Deposit Return System (DRS) where when you buy a drink in a can or plastic bottle, the price includes a deposit. Simply put your empty cans and bottles in a Reverse Vending Machine (RVM) and you receive the deposit back from those empties. Any can or bottle not part of the scheme gets rejected.

So you don't go back to a shop and the shops are not paying out for returns. And all you need to do to earn extra money, simply go to a RVM with cans and bottles that others have discarded on the streets and in hedges.




We used to take the empty glass bottles back as kids in the 70's to collect the deposits for sweets, I think more countries need to copy Norway.

https://www.tomra.com/en-gb/reverse-vending/media-center/feature-articles/norway-deposit-return-scheme

 

[ReinyDays]

Oregon was the first to use bottle and can deposits ... pay a nickel when you buy it, get a nickel back at a local redemption center ... the target was roadside litter ... even if someone did toss the can or bottle out their car window, someone would come along and pick it up for the cash ...

Worked great ... keeps all manner of roadside litter down ... plus it's cool recycling aluminum ...

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

Oregon was the first to use bottle and can deposits ... pay a nickel when you buy it, get a nickel back at a local redemption center ... the target was roadside litter ... even if someone did toss the can or bottle out their car window, someone would come along and pick it up for the cash ...

Worked great ... keeps all manner of roadside litter down ... plus it's cool recycling aluminum ...

works great until they figure out how to smash out of state cans and return them across state lines and make a lot of money doing so.

Michigan learned the lesson and fixed it.

Michigan cracking down on bottle return fraud with new laws

Michigan will be getting tougher on fraud with the state's bottle return law.

www.abc12.com

 

[Concerned American]

Norway has a pretty good idea. It's called the Deposit Return System (DRS) where when you buy a drink in a can or plastic bottle, the price includes a deposit. Simply put your empty cans and bottles in a Reverse Vending Machine (RVM) and you receive the deposit back from those empties. Any can or bottle not part of the scheme gets rejected.

So you don't go back to a shop and the shops are not paying out for returns. And all you need to do to earn extra money, simply go to a RVM with cans and bottles that others have discarded on the streets and in hedges.




We used to take the empty glass bottles back as kids in the 70's to collect the deposits for sweets, I think more countries need to copy Norway.

https://www.tomra.com/en-gb/reverse-vending/media-center/feature-articles/norway-deposit-return-scheme

This is the same way Oregon does it. The problem is that the machine does not accept dented cans or crushed bottles and rejects them. If the customer isn't going to get their deposit back, they will just discard the empty. California has a great program. Individuals are licensed to administer returns and they do it by the individual container (under 24 containers) or by weight with more containers. It works well and is much more effective than the RVMs.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

works great until they figure out how to smash out of state cans and return them across state lines and make a lot of money doing so.

Michigan learned the lesson and fixed it.

Michigan cracking down on bottle return fraud with new laws

Michigan will be getting tougher on fraud with the state's bottle return law.

www.abc12.com

 

[Concerned American]

Michigan learned the lesson and fixed it.

I think you've lost sight of why the deposit was put in place. It was to discourage littering. So OR and MI refuse any container that doesn't have their state's identifier or a machine is unable to read it. What happens to that container? It ends up as litter. Real effective program. SMH. Your link even mentions "The funding will come from the first $1 million per year in unclaimed 10-cent beverage container refunds." Kind of exposes the program as a money grab and not an environmental program at all.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

I think you've lost sight of why the deposit was put in place. It was to discourage littering. So OR and MI refuse any container that doesn't have their state's identifier or a machine is unable to read it. What happens to that container? It ends up as litter.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

I think you've lost sight of why the deposit was put in place. It was to discourage littering. So OR and MI refuse any container that doesn't have their state's identifier or a machine is unable to read it. What happens to that container? It ends up as litter. Real effective program. SMH. Your link even mentions "The funding will come from the first $1 million per year in unclaimed 10-cent beverage container refunds." Kind of exposes the program as a money grab and not an environmental program at all.

A money grab when you pay a deposit and get it back

 

[ReinyDays]

"Oregon's Bottle Bill was introduced in 1971 as the very first bottle bill in the U.S. The bill was created to address a growing litter problem along Oregon beaches, highways and other public areas." --- Oregon DoE

Is it worth standing in front of the intake machine all day long just to make 5¢ per can? ... or flip burgers at McD's for $20/hr ...

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

"Oregon's Bottle Bill was introduced in 1971 as the very first bottle bill in the U.S. The bill was created to address a growing litter problem along Oregon beaches, highways and other public areas." --- Oregon DoE

Is it worth standing in front of the intake machine all day long just to make 5¢ per can? ... or flip burgers at McD's for $20/hr ...

we are talking Michigan and Concerned American claim bottle that are not retuned end up as litter. And I got news for both of you. Michigan has a high and increasing recycling rate. For the fourth consecutive year, the state has achieved a record high recycling rate. The "What happens to that container? It ends up as litter" is nothing but spittle from a rancid impotent Trump humping gimp

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

As far as "money grab" the rancid impotent Trump humping gimp Concerned American claimed.

The 1976 Michigan Bottle Act, also known as the "Bottle Bill" was approved by voters in November 1976, and the deposit system was implemented in December 1978.

Impact:
The Michigan Bottle Bill has been credited with significantly reducing roadside litter and promoting recycling in the state. It was one of the first bottle deposit laws in the United States, and the first to implement a 10-cent deposit.

Yes, bottle return has declined, yet no evidence suggests these bottles end up as "litter".
Michigan has a high and increasing recycling rate. For the fourth consecutive year, the state has achieved a record high recycling rate. Michigan is working on improving this program.

GOOGLE IT BITCHES

 

[Concerned American]

A money grab when you pay a deposit and get it back

What happens to the millions of dollars in UNCLAIMED refunds that are referenced in YOUR link? Whitmer uses the FIRST million for enforcement each year, what happens to the other millions? Maybe you should read your own link before asking for another to support what you already posted. SMFH. DEI healthcare worker.

we are talking Michigan and Concerned American claim bottle that are not retuned end up as litter. And I got news for both of you. Michigan has a high and increasing recycling rate. For the fourth consecutive year, the state has achieved a record high recycling rate. The "What happens to that container? It ends up as litter" is nothing but spittle from a rancid impotent Trump humping gimp

Only a moronic democrat could equate concern over misused consumers' $$$ to Trump. BTW, this law has been in effect since the mid 70s--why is it reaching record highs? LOL, maybe because tourists traveling through the state are recycling. Hmmm, what happens when MI refuses their containers? Critical thinking, try it sometime.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

What happens to the millions of dollars in UNCLAIMED refunds that are referenced in YOUR link? Whitmer uses the FIRST million for enforcement each year, what happens to the other millions? Maybe you should read your own link before asking for another to support what you already posted. SMFH. DEI healthcare worker.

Only a moronic democrat could equate concern over misused consumers' $$$ to Trump. BTW, this law has been in effect since the mid 70s--why is it reaching record highs? LOL, maybe because tourists traveling through the state are recycling. Hmmm, what happens when MI refuses their containers? Critical thinking, try it sometime.

Your lack critical thinking skills. It is documented.
the voters approved. If you do not like it do not go to Michigan
MYOB

 

[Concerned American]

Your lack critical thinking skills. It is documented.
the voters approved. If you do not like it do not go to Michigan
MYOB

Very good, hide your head in the sand when your stupidity is pointed out to you. BTW, maybe you should mind YOUR own business since you're in OHIO or has OHIO been annexed by Michigan now? LMAO Run along, you're not smart enough to participate in this conversation.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

Very good, hide your head in the sand when your stupidity is pointed out to you. BTW, maybe you should mind YOUR own business since you're in OHIO or has OHIO been annexed by Michigan now? LMAO Run along, you're not smart enough to participate in this conversation.

Ohio and Michigan share a border and I cross it on a frequent basis.

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[Concerned American]

Ohio and Michigan share a border and I cross it on a frequent basis.

So Michigan refuses your containers when you visit, eh? What happens when you and your fellow buckeyes can't get your container recycled when in MI? Maybe you should follow your own advice and MYOB, eh?

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

So Michigan refuses your containers when you visit, eh? What happens when you and your fellow buckeyes can't get your container recycled when in MI? Maybe you should follow your own advice and MYOB, eh?

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[Captain Caveman]

So Michigan refuses your containers when you visit, eh? What happens when you and your fellow buckeyes can't get your container recycled when in MI? Maybe you should follow your own advice and MYOB, eh?

When I was a kid, we were brought up not to drop litter. If we did, our dad picked us up by the hairs at the back of the head. Even to this day, I always put the smallest bit of rubbish in my pockets to take home. Pop (soda) was in glass bottles with a deposit. The rubbish that went out was paper, glass, and metal tins; now 99% of it is plastic.

We never threw anything out, you repaired it, even if the cost of the repair equalled the value of the item. That reduced landfill waste.

Not these days, many are upset with having to recycle. If I was Prime Minister, I would charge the VAT (sales tax) to 200% on any food or drink item in a packet or bottle that contains or is made out of plastic.

 

[Concerned American]

When I was a kid, we were brought up not to drop litter. If we did, our dad picked us up by the hairs at the back of the head. Even to this day, I always put the smallest bit of rubbish in my pockets to take home. Pop (soda) was in glass bottles with a deposit. The rubbish that went out was paper, glass, and metal tins; now 99% of it is plastic.

We never threw anything out, you repaired it, even if the cost of the repair equalled the value of the item. That reduced landfill waste.

Not these days, many are upset with having to recycle. If I was Prime Minister, I would charge the VAT (sales tax) to 200% on any food or drink item in a packet or bottle that contains or is made out of plastic.

Agreed! I was raised the same way. I have a problem with these politicians that claim they are running recycle programs that are nothing but a money grab. Recycling is the furthest thing from their minds. OR and MI both are more concerned with where the litter comes from than they are with stopping it. If their "recycle" containers don't have legible identifiers, they kick them back. Other states claim to be environmentally responsible but have no recycle programs at all--WA. I have been recycling paper, glass, aluminum and plastic since before the politicians discovered they could make another slush fund out of it.