Pirates killed, Captain free. Good job.

[WillowTree]

I loved old Ernestine, she was so damn cool.



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[Diuretic]

Sounds like he got a little cover fire from the SEALS this time when he jumped.

Ummm ... no? He jumped. The SEALS or whoever opened fire were sitting there waiting for an opportunity and exploited it. Good job on both parts. The Captain for not waiting around for diplomats to save his ass and the shooters for seizing the opportunity.

Ummmm...yes? He jumped, the SEALS fired and killed all three pirates in the lifeboat. Remember the last time he tried that without any help? They jumped in and caught him. The SEALS killed them. The captain didn't.

Pause for a moment. Think about it. The captain showed not only great physical and moral courage through this, he also showed great presence of mind. The captain tipped the balance so the SEALS could act. I'd call it great team work.

 

[WorldAHope]

Another tiny insignificant person who can't prevent himself from throwing his thin diarrhea at Obama every second of his existence. Pretty sad little buglike critter.
And you freakin' lie everytime. What the hell is wrong with you ? Are you in an alternate universe ?
Read this:
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/gates-forecasts-change-for-obama-pentagon-budget-2009-04-06.html

Meanwhile, Gates plans to boost the intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance budget by $2 billion and grow the Special Operations forces by 5 percent, or 2,800 personnel. Special operators will also receive more lift aircraft and refueling capabilities.

Gates on Monday also announced efforts to boost the Pentagon acquisition workforce. Gates is planning to replace 11,000 contractors with 9,000 government professionals by 2015. He’s starting in fiscal 2010 with 4,100 additional government employees.

ROFLMNAO...

Well of course I'm only speaking ot the special operators I speak to every single day and their experience of exponentially declining budgets... They range in experience from command level NCOs and Officers down... in US Special Forces, USMC Recon And Force Recon, MARSOC and Navy Seals; who without exception, are ALL suffering substantial cuts in their operation budgets... But there can be no doubt that "The Hill" knows more about what's going on IN SPECIAL OPERATION UNITS, than do the men who ARE US MILITARY SPECIAL OPERATIONS.

And WHO could ever doubt the veracity of The Hill... So I concede to the authority of the nations leading propanda instrument and will let history play itself out...

Never let it be said that the history of Leftist administrations that the US Military budget pays the price of sustaining grandiose leftist policy failures and the 3 trillion dollars spent or projected to imminently BE SPENT... in deficit, by this President; will have NO EFFECT on Secretary Gates 'plans' to increase the SOCOM budgets...

ROFLMNAO...

Oh GOD that's precious...

The voices in your head are special operators giving you top secret information that only you can hear ? You are funny, in a sad lonely disturbed sort of way.

"Exponentially declining budgets" is a statistical and accounting impossibility.
Prove to us with something other than your hot air that any unit in the Special Forces is
"suffereing substantial cuts in their operating budgets". Just one.

Everytime you post - you post stupid easily refutable lies. Everytime. It is sad and pathetic.

I will say this plainly and without elaboration. YOU are a liar.

 

[Peejay]

Ummm ... no? He jumped. The SEALS or whoever opened fire were sitting there waiting for an opportunity and exploited it. Good job on both parts. The Captain for not waiting around for diplomats to save his ass and the shooters for seizing the opportunity.

Ummmm...yes? He jumped, the SEALS fired and killed all three pirates in the lifeboat. Remember the last time he tried that without any help? They jumped in and caught him. The SEALS killed them. The captain didn't.

Pause for a moment. Think about it. The captain showed not only great physical and moral courage through this, he also showed great presence of mind. The captain tipped the balance so the SEALS could act. I'd call it great team work.

Me too. I don't disagree in the least with that.

Gunny says the captain saved his own ass. Considering that he couldn't save his own ass the first time he tried, I would tend to want to give the Navy guys credit for their part rather than cast them as mere opportunist.

 

[Bootneck]

Great news! Good job all round. Well done US navy!

Good to see you made it back. All in one piece, I hope?

Yep. I've been lucky. Just a few minor dinks and dents as a lasting memento. The only problem? The bleeding silence is hurting my ears! Oh, and acute alcohol withdrawal symptons!

 

[CrimsonWhite]

*racism discussion moved to its proper place*

 

[WillowTree]

Ummmm...yes? He jumped, the SEALS fired and killed all three pirates in the lifeboat. Remember the last time he tried that without any help? They jumped in and caught him. The SEALS killed them. The captain didn't.

Pause for a moment. Think about it. The captain showed not only great physical and moral courage through this, he also showed great presence of mind. The captain tipped the balance so the SEALS could act. I'd call it great team work.

Me too. I don't disagree in the least with that.

Gunny says the captain saved his own ass. Considering that he couldn't save his own ass the first time he tried, I would tend to want to give the Navy guys credit for their part rather than cast them as mere opportunist.

funny, the way I read it The captain saved his own ass in that he had the courage to jump the second time. thereby giving the navy guys an opportunity to open fire. so don't be a DF

 

[Xenophon]

Nice to see good news for a change.

Well done from BO down through the Navy on the spot.

 

[Diuretic]

Ummmm...yes? He jumped, the SEALS fired and killed all three pirates in the lifeboat. Remember the last time he tried that without any help? They jumped in and caught him. The SEALS killed them. The captain didn't.

Pause for a moment. Think about it. The captain showed not only great physical and moral courage through this, he also showed great presence of mind. The captain tipped the balance so the SEALS could act. I'd call it great team work.

Me too. I don't disagree in the least with that.

Gunny says the captain saved his own ass. Considering that he couldn't save his own ass the first time he tried, I would tend to want to give the Navy guys credit for their part rather than cast them as mere opportunist.

The captain is no fool. As I indicated - not knowing the bloke but making some inferences from reports of his behaviour during this ordeal - the captain kept his head. He probably saw a chance to get away, took it but then was forced to return. I'd give him huge points for guts. Again that seems to be consistent with his behaviour and the crew might agree, apparently. This time I'd say - yes I'm speculating - the captain knew that the situation would change every second. I think he's seen a chance to make a radical change in the situation which would enable the SEALS to grab control. He removed himself from the immediate field of fire and gave the SEALS a golden opportunity to neutralise the pirates. So, my uninformed reading of this is that the captain kept his head, continually looking for an escape route, saw another chance, took it and the SEALS acted immediately and without stuffing around and took out the pirates. I could be totally wrong but I'm quite serious when I say that I'm drawing these inferences from various reports.

Now I'm waiting for someone to ask why the pirates simply couldn't have been wounded

 

[WorldAHope]

Ummmm...yes? He jumped, the SEALS fired and killed all three pirates in the lifeboat. Remember the last time he tried that without any help? They jumped in and caught him. The SEALS killed them. The captain didn't.

Pause for a moment. Think about it. The captain showed not only great physical and moral courage through this, he also showed great presence of mind. The captain tipped the balance so the SEALS could act. I'd call it great team work.

Me too. I don't disagree in the least with that.

Gunny says the captain saved his own ass. Considering that he couldn't save his own ass the first time he tried, I would tend to want to give the Navy guys credit for their part rather than cast them as mere opportunist.

Nobody is casting the Navy as "mere" anything. The USS Bainbridge CO and crew and the SEALS sent to them were all over this situation, and were waiting for an opening, it appears. Wait for better details to be reported.

 

[Otter_Creek]

Good thing it didn't happen off the coast of Oakland.

 

[Peejay]

Pause for a moment. Think about it. The captain showed not only great physical and moral courage through this, he also showed great presence of mind. The captain tipped the balance so the SEALS could act. I'd call it great team work.

Me too. I don't disagree in the least with that.

Gunny says the captain saved his own ass. Considering that he couldn't save his own ass the first time he tried, I would tend to want to give the Navy guys credit for their part rather than cast them as mere opportunist.

Nobody is casting the Navy as "mere" anything. The USS Bainbridge CO and crew and the SEALS sent to them were all over this situation, and were waiting for an opening, it appears. Wait for better details to be reported.

Not according to Gunny. He says they didn't have a plan and the whole thing was unexpected. Just an opportunity they happened upon.

Again, we will hear about a plan, a plan to be at the ready for the right moment. Well hear about expecting the opportunity and taking it.

 

[Peejay]

Now reading conflicting reports that the captain did not jump into the water. The firing squad took aim and opened fire on the pirates.

Wild West style.

 

[Old Rocks]

According to sky news out of England the US Navy did not move in, the US Navy did not move in.

The Captain jumped into the ocean again forcing the US Navy to act.

I am in Spain and Sky news keeps repeating that the pirates at best commited a crime and the boat is a crime scene and law enforcement officials will investigate.

They handling of this as a crime is what we should be screaming about. We treated Osama Bin Laden as a criminal during Bill Clinton's time as president, treating Osama like a criminal led and caused 9/11.

Hillary Clinton called this a crime.

Obama did not interfere in something that was merely a crime.

Sky news is calling this a crime.

The US Navy has no jurisdiction. Its a crime.

Obama is enlarging AmeriCorp to 300,000 troops. Obama says the will be just as powerful as our military and have more funding.

World police, new world order, your fancy car is gone, no more big screen TV's, no fancy computers.
The way the media covers this story world wide, the way Obama was silent shows our president is BOWING to a power who will rule over the president of the USA and all its people. The world will rule us which will make our liberals happy. Look at how they treat us in these threads, they hate us, look at the vile they speak, look how rotten they are if they disagree.

The New World order disagrees and hates the conservative christian americans.

How Obama handled this does not show inexperience. It shows that our presidents can be bought the same as the 100,000,000 payoff to Bill Clinton. Clinton treated Obama as a criminal, Obama is treating terrorists as criminals, it is now up to the New World order to protect our citizens.

 

[Diuretic]

Me too. I don't disagree in the least with that.

Gunny says the captain saved his own ass. Considering that he couldn't save his own ass the first time he tried, I would tend to want to give the Navy guys credit for their part rather than cast them as mere opportunist.

Nobody is casting the Navy as "mere" anything. The USS Bainbridge CO and crew and the SEALS sent to them were all over this situation, and were waiting for an opening, it appears. Wait for better details to be reported.

Not according to Gunny. He says they didn't have a plan and the whole thing was unexpected. Just an opportunity they happened upon.

Again, we will hear about a plan, a plan to be at the ready for the right moment. Well hear about expecting the opportunity and taking it.

I'm going to let Gunny speak for himself. But as far as a "plan" is concerned, I would think these SEALS, like any other military or para-military unit, train and operate (the old saying, you play as you train) as a team and in particular train in various scenarios with various contingencies. Take this situation. The context was a bit different, that's true, but essentially it was a hostage situation, not dissimilar to hostage situations that police have to deal with quite frequently and for which I would image counter-terrorist personnel (military and civilian) would train. Again I'm speculating here but I would think one of the contingenies would be how to react if the hostage(s) get free. What followed would have been SOP I would think.

I'm reminded of the British SAS operation in London in 1980.

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[Old Rocks]

What a heartbreak this must be for you lefties! The Navy rescued the captain AND sent three of your pirate compadres to the promised land forthwith. I suppose Obama will order a court martial against the Navy Commander for violating the pirate's civil rights - naturally, you will be in mourning for 13 days over this.

RWC

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah ha ha ha ha ha ha

 

[Old Rocks]

Now reading conflicting reports that the captain did not jump into the water. The firing squad took aim and opened fire on the pirates.

Wild West style.

Three shots, three heads blown apart. That is not Wild West, that is professional military.

 

[Burp]

He did not jump in the water. Personnel on the Bainbridge saw weapons being pointed at the captain and opened fire.

 

[dilloduck]

Now reading conflicting reports that the captain did not jump into the water. The firing squad took aim and opened fire on the pirates.

Wild West style.

Three shots, three heads blown apart. That is not Wild West, that is professional military.

Synchronized shooting---someone's going to have egg all over their face.

 

[alan1]

*racism discussion moved to its proper place*

Not biased enough to get a vote.
del and jillian are so kicking your ass.