Photographer Loses Bid to Refuse Same-Sex Wedding Jobs

[manifold]

This is such a nonissue.

All said photographer has to say is that he is not available to take pictures on said homosexual's wedding day because of a prior commitment and then express his apologies and tell them they'll have to find someone else.

Simple.

Perhaps they have a religious aversion to lying.

My understanding is that some religions believe you go to the same place for lying that you do for stealing and killing.

Apparently not yours. Lucky you.

 

[Skull Pilot]

This is such a nonissue.

All said photographer has to say is that he is not available to take pictures on said homosexual's wedding day because of a prior commitment and then express his apologies and tell them they'll have to find someone else.

Simple.

Perhaps they have a religious aversion to lying.

My understanding is that some religions believe you go to the same place for lying that you do for stealing and killing.

Apparently not yours. Lucky you.

I am smart enough not to have a religion. No luck needed

And it's not lying if you believe it to be true.

 

[chanel]

It's too late now, but business owners better start coming up with a list of excuses in case they want to refuse service for any reason. Because in a nanny state, lying is far better than objecting. This could open a big can of worms methinks.

 

[bodecea]

And the left complains that we conservatives tell them what they can do and not do.... the libs will come out defending this decision... the decision of a judge telling a photographer what they can photograph and not photograph.


Liberal hypocisy on display in 5...... 4.... 3.....2......

Photographer Loses Bid to Refuse Same-Sex Wedding Jobs

insert black wedding in place of same sex wedding.

still think the photographer can do whatever he wants?

how about a jewish wedding?

a christian wedding?

a muslim wedding?

have a restaurant? only want white people?

think you have the right to do that?

Private Business should have the right to refuse service to ANYONE they want, for ANY reason. The response from the public would be, if they disagree to boycott that business. It is NONE of the States business at all. The ONLY exception is emergency services.

That's the argument the Department Stores and Lunchrooms of Nashville TN made in 1960.

 

[manifold]

insert black wedding in place of same sex wedding.

still think the photographer can do whatever he wants?

how about a jewish wedding?

a christian wedding?

a muslim wedding?

have a restaurant? only want white people?

think you have the right to do that?

Private Business should have the right to refuse service to ANYONE they want, for ANY reason. The response from the public would be, if they disagree to boycott that business. It is NONE of the States business at all. The ONLY exception is emergency services.

That's the argument the Department Stores and Lunchrooms of Nashville TN made in 1960.

And it was valid then too.

 

[bodecea]

Here's a very interesting part of the Photographer's legal argument:

Elaine Huguenin's freedom-of-religion argument was that the HRA ruling forces her to attend a religious ceremony that violates her conscience, and to express messages contrary to her religious beliefs.

So...it's not about them being gay, it's about them not attending a religious ceremony she says violates her conscience.

So...if a Jewish ceremony or a Buddhist ceremony violates her conscience, she can reject business from them too?

 

[Samson]

Here's a very interesting part of the Photographer's legal argument:

Elaine Huguenin's freedom-of-religion argument was that the HRA ruling forces her to attend a religious ceremony that violates her conscience, and to express messages contrary to her religious beliefs.

So...it's not about them being gay, it's about them not attending a religious ceremony she says violates her conscience.

So...if a Jewish ceremony or a Buddhist ceremony violates her conscience, she can reject business from them too?

Sure.

Why the hell should we even be wondering?

Aren't there any Queer photographers?

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Here's a very interesting part of the Photographer's legal argument:

Elaine Huguenin's freedom-of-religion argument was that the HRA ruling forces her to attend a religious ceremony that violates her conscience, and to express messages contrary to her religious beliefs.

So...it's not about them being gay, it's about them not attending a religious ceremony she says violates her conscience.

So...if a Jewish ceremony or a Buddhist ceremony violates her conscience, she can reject business from them too?

Yep... Nasty stuff that FREEDOM! So intolerant...

 

[Oscar Wao]

Here's a very interesting part of the Photographer's legal argument:

Elaine Huguenin's freedom-of-religion argument was that the HRA ruling forces her to attend a religious ceremony that violates her conscience, and to express messages contrary to her religious beliefs.

So...it's not about them being gay, it's about them not attending a religious ceremony she says violates her conscience.

So...if a Jewish ceremony or a Buddhist ceremony violates her conscience, she can reject business from them too?

Why not?

 

[bodecea]

Here's a very interesting part of the Photographer's legal argument:

Elaine Huguenin's freedom-of-religion argument was that the HRA ruling forces her to attend a religious ceremony that violates her conscience, and to express messages contrary to her religious beliefs.

So...it's not about them being gay, it's about them not attending a religious ceremony she says violates her conscience.

So...if a Jewish ceremony or a Buddhist ceremony violates her conscience, she can reject business from them too?

Why not?

OK...just wanted to know if it was acceptable for a business person of one religion openly rejected business from people of another religion. You guys answered that one.

 

[Oscar Wao]

Here's a very interesting part of the Photographer's legal argument:



So...it's not about them being gay, it's about them not attending a religious ceremony she says violates her conscience.

So...if a Jewish ceremony or a Buddhist ceremony violates her conscience, she can reject business from them too?

Why not?

OK...just wanted to know if it was acceptable for a business person of one religion openly rejected business from people of another religion. You guys answered that one.

I mean, I'm speaking as if I could get into their mind, I probably wouldn't do it any which-way, being a fundy. In fact, if I were FORCED to do so, I'd probably take horrid pictures and ruin the aesthetic quality of the photos by just taking amateur-level photos.

So, really, why WOULD the SS couple want them being their photographers?

 

[RodISHI]

Photographer should have just said no I have other plans for that day. It would be a very cold day in hell before anyone would tell me as an artist where or how I will do my work.

 

[BolshevikHunter]

This is Government controlling individual Freedom. Whether you agree with her position or not, the Government has no business forcing anyone to take whatever Job. I mean, A career like Photography is on a case by case basis. What's next? If they refused to film Porn or someone screwing a horse they can get sued as well? It doesn't take very much intelligence to understand that this is complete bullshit and one of many attacks on Individual Liberty. ~BH

 

[p kirkes]

Today, in Mississippi, Yahoo reports a local school board refused the request of two lesbian high school students that wanted to attend the prom, one would be dressed in a tux.

They students sued and obtained a favorable ruling. The school board canceled the prom.

Was the school board's ruling correct and proper? I say yes, However, it could have ruled to accept the courts ruling and hold the prom but would probably incur the wrath of the community who pay the bills.

Since the board is locally elected and represent their constituents, who do not accept lesbian relationships at the high school, they would not want to seemingly endorse this lifestyle by holding a prom attended by openly Lesbian students. It would be too disruptive IMO.

So, how can this tyranny by the minority be derailed next year or the year after? I was very happy to attend my high school prom with my date, a young lady, with no disruptions. Dancing was the theme for my night, with a late night meal at "Abe's" restaurant on Hollywood Blvd, followed by a little trip to "Insperation Point' to behold the city lights, not seeing two girls in sexual embraces.

Now a whole class missed out. The community will not change it's values to accommodate relationships that they consider wrong they are sticking to their guns.

Wonder if the New Mexico law would force a school board to accept a gay or Lesbian student couple at their prom? The judge in this case stopped short of ordering the school board to hold the prom.

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Photographer should have just said no I have other plans for that day. It would be a very cold day in hell before anyone would tell me as an artist where or how I will do my work.

I believe that would be the kind way of dealing with it. Hey, Maybe I am going on vacation that weekend? Then again, Some people will take any business they can get in this economy. Referrals come from most Jobs taken as well. ~BH

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Today, in Mississippi, Yahoo reports a local school board refused the request of two lesbian high school students that wanted to attend the prom, one would be dressed in a tux.

They students sued and obtained a favorable ruling. The school board canceled the prom.

Was the school board's ruling correct and proper? I say yes, However, it could have ruled to accept the courts ruling and hold the prom but would probably incur the wrath of the community who pay the bills.

Since the board is locally elected and represent their constituents, who do not accept lesbian relationships at the high school, they would not want to seemingly endorse this lifestyle by holding a prom attended by openly Lesbian students. It would be too disruptive IMO.

So, how can this tyranny by the minority be derailed next year or the year after? I was very happy to attend my high school prom with my date, a young lady, with no disruptions. Dancing was the theme for my night, with a late night meal at "Abe's" restaurant on Hollywood Blvd, followed by a little trip to "Insperation Point' to behold the city lights, not seeing two girls in sexual embraces.

Now a whole class missed out. The community will not change it's values to accommodate relationships that they consider wrong they are sticking to their guns.

Wonder if the New Mexico law would force a school board to accept a gay or Lesbian student couple at their prom? The judge in this case stopped short of ordering the school board to hold the prom.

Well, Unless it's a private school, I don't see the big deal. I can't be a hypocrite here, it's about controlling peoples freedom. Not too mention allowing the minority to ruin an occasion that only comes around once in a life time. That's the biggest shame here. ~BH

 

[Samson]

Today, in Mississippi, Yahoo reports a local school board refused the request of two lesbian high school students that wanted to attend the prom, one would be dressed in a tux. .

Someone oughta start a thread about this .....

 

[NYcarbineer]

So it was New Mexico state law that they wanted to violate?

Hmmm...you want state's rights, you got them right there.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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Private Business should have the right to refuse service to ANYONE they want, for ANY reason. .

This is the kind of conservative thinking that validates my sigline part one.

 

[manifold]

So it was New Mexico state law that they wanted to violate?

Hmmm...you want state's rights, you got them right there.

Fail.

The principle of state's rights does not grant the states the power to deny constitutional rights. You may not agree that the constitution protects an individual's right to association but that's what is being discussed. Debate that or play your states rights red herring and fail. Your choice.