Pentagon To Announce Equal Benefits For Married Gay Couples

[deltex1]

It should give some sense of security that the government at Walter Reed Medical Center has stopped accepting its own meal tickets given the patients and closed the Wounded Warrior Café on week ends yet has time and money for this nonsense.

If a homosexual is wounded, do they become heterosexual for purposes of treatment?

Good question.

If they are shot in the dick and are someone's wife...the dick is ignored.

 

[OriginalShroom]

In this case....in THIS case...they appear to be....and it should stop.

Got any others?

Since Regulations prevent Boy Friend/Girl Friend from rooming together in the Dorms, will the regulations now prevent "Boy Friend/Boy Friend and Girl Friend/Girl Friend from rooming together also?

Will Straight Men and Women be forced to share communal latrines and shower areas with known Gays and Lesbians? If so, why not simply have a single set of latrines and showers that everyone, regardless of gender and sexual orientation have to use?

When was this ever about "being forced"?

And I shared a tent and the whole outdoors as a head with about 40 guys when I was on land survival training. We all managed ok.

BTW...it's funny to watch The Potty Principle pop up again....that one's been around for a long time.

I noticed you failed to answer the first question I asked... I wonder why? Oh yeah, I know.. Because that is going to be another "special right" that gays and lesbians will have.

I already know how this is going to break down..

Any straight who objects to have a gay or lesbian assigned as a roommate or refuses to take a shower in a communal shower with one will be written up and prosecuted.

It seems that Liberals have no problem requiring Straights to live with and shower with gays and lesbians, yet they will nearly have a head explosion if anyone were to suggest that men and women be required to live and shower together in a communal shower.

 

[Katzndogz]

So, you don't want the military supporting their soldiers and sailors having stable marriage lives?

There is no such thing as marriage between two faggots or butches you aren't married and no ******* governments will make me accept that. I don't want my money supporting your sick perverted lifestyle.

Better stop paying taxes then...or move. I hear Russia sucks all year.

There is an alternative.

You just wouldn't like it.

 

[Seawytch]

Until this announcement there was no such thing as "marriage leave".

If you wanted to get married, you took regular leave, if you had any saved. Or you got married on Friday and went back to work on Monday.

What makes you think this leave won't be deducted from their 30 days of annual leave?

Evidently you failed to read Post #19.

Let me repost part of it for you...

Gays In Military Given Leave for Marriage Travel | Military.com

Gay and lesbian service members assigned more than 100 miles from a state where same-sex marriages are legal, or assigned overseas, will be granted extra days of leave to travel where they can marry legally, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel announced Wednesday.

The special homosexual "marriage leave" accommodation, effective immediately and allowable only once in a member’s career, won’t count against 30 days annual leave every active duty member earns.
Non-chargeable leave of up to seven days will be granted if the gay or lesbian member is assigned inside the continental United States. Those wishing to marry while assigned outside of the continental U.S will get up to 10 days of extra leave.

Now... Just to make sure you understand..

ONLY Gay and Lesbians are eligible. It is NOT charged against their ordinary leave. It is a special accommodation for Gays and Lesbians only. Straights are not eligible.

The policy evens the playing field. If all 50 states applied the 14th Amendment equally, the policy wouldn't be necessary.

 

[Seawytch]

Since Regulations prevent Boy Friend/Girl Friend from rooming together in the Dorms, will the regulations now prevent "Boy Friend/Boy Friend and Girl Friend/Girl Friend from rooming together also?

Will Straight Men and Women be forced to share communal latrines and shower areas with known Gays and Lesbians? If so, why not simply have a single set of latrines and showers that everyone, regardless of gender and sexual orientation have to use?

When was this ever about "being forced"?

And I shared a tent and the whole outdoors as a head with about 40 guys when I was on land survival training. We all managed ok.

BTW...it's funny to watch The Potty Principle pop up again....that one's been around for a long time.

I noticed you failed to answer the first question I asked... I wonder why? Oh yeah, I know.. Because that is going to be another "special right" that gays and lesbians will have.

I already know how this is going to break down..

Any straight who objects to have a gay or lesbian assigned as a roommate or refuses to take a shower in a communal shower with one will be written up and prosecuted.

It seems that Liberals have no problem requiring Straights to live with and shower with gays and lesbians, yet they will nearly have a head explosion if anyone were to suggest that men and women be required to live and shower together in a communal shower.

If heterosexuals weren't trying to keep legal marriage as their "special right", the policy wouldn't be needed. In 13 states, gay servicemembers won't need the policy. When the others join them, you can scrap the policy.

 

[OriginalShroom]

What makes you think this leave won't be deducted from their 30 days of annual leave?

Evidently you failed to read Post #19.

Let me repost part of it for you...

Gays In Military Given Leave for Marriage Travel | Military.com

Gay and lesbian service members assigned more than 100 miles from a state where same-sex marriages are legal, or assigned overseas, will be granted extra days of leave to travel where they can marry legally, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel announced Wednesday.

The special homosexual "marriage leave" accommodation, effective immediately and allowable only once in a member’s career, won’t count against 30 days annual leave every active duty member earns.
Non-chargeable leave of up to seven days will be granted if the gay or lesbian member is assigned inside the continental United States. Those wishing to marry while assigned outside of the continental U.S will get up to 10 days of extra leave.

Now... Just to make sure you understand..

ONLY Gay and Lesbians are eligible. It is NOT charged against their ordinary leave. It is a special accommodation for Gays and Lesbians only. Straights are not eligible.

The policy evens the playing field. If all 50 states applied the 14th Amendment equally, the policy wouldn't be necessary.

It is discriminatory. It is awarded based upon sexual preference. Do you realize how much money that leave is worth?

An E-6 with 4 years in service make $2819.40 base pay a month. 7 days free leave is worth $657.86. 10 days is worth $939.80. That is a lot of money.

 

[OriginalShroom]

When was this ever about "being forced"?

And I shared a tent and the whole outdoors as a head with about 40 guys when I was on land survival training. We all managed ok.

BTW...it's funny to watch The Potty Principle pop up again....that one's been around for a long time.

I noticed you failed to answer the first question I asked... I wonder why? Oh yeah, I know.. Because that is going to be another "special right" that gays and lesbians will have.

I already know how this is going to break down..

Any straight who objects to have a gay or lesbian assigned as a roommate or refuses to take a shower in a communal shower with one will be written up and prosecuted.

It seems that Liberals have no problem requiring Straights to live with and shower with gays and lesbians, yet they will nearly have a head explosion if anyone were to suggest that men and women be required to live and shower together in a communal shower.

If heterosexuals weren't trying to keep legal marriage as their "special right", the policy wouldn't be needed. In 13 states, gay servicemembers won't need the policy. When the others join them, you can scrap the policy.

Which policy are you talking about? There is nothing in the post of mine that you quoted that your post appears to answering or rebutting.

 

[bodecea]

Was attendance mandatory? Drag shows are fun. Whenever we'd pull into Key West, drag shows were popular with the crew.

Speaking of drag...you should have seen the engineering department (all straight, butch gear head men) on Rocky Horror night.

That's the Navy.

When I made Shellback they had a dragshow and beauty contest. We voted on the sexiest Dragqueen as our official Shellback Queen. I was wondering where all of those guys got all of those wigs and clothes from. The winner needed a Marine escort because he was a real sexy *****. Looked just like a woman, and we hadn't seen one in 90 days.

Good God....you damned sailors..........

No wonder my Brother (Retired Marine Corps Master Gunny) hated sailors with a passion..

We had the Marines so we didn't have to get muddy.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So, you don't want the military supporting their soldiers and sailors having stable marriage lives?

There is no such thing as marriage between two faggots or butches you aren't married and no ******* governments will make me accept that. I don't want my money supporting your sick perverted lifestyle.

Better stop paying taxes then...or move. I hear Russia sucks all year.

How about you move your fucked up butch ass there. Not a question but a ******* demand.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I love how these benefits are being offered without going through Congress first. And giving free leave to get married? BullShit.

This is political I thought the government was sequestered? Now money is being used for this shit? TAX PAYERS ON THE HOOK AGAIN

So, you don't want the military supporting their soldiers and sailors having stable marriage lives?

No I do not support faggots regardless if their military or not.

 

[aaronleland]

There is no such thing as marriage between two faggots or butches you aren't married and no ******* governments will make me accept that. I don't want my money supporting your sick perverted lifestyle.

Better stop paying taxes then...or move. I hear Russia sucks all year.

How about you move your fucked up butch ass there. Not a question but a ******* demand.

You are the one who doesn't seem to like this country much anymore. So don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So, you don't want the military supporting their soldiers and sailors having stable marriage lives?

There is no such thing as marriage between two faggots or butches you aren't married and no ******* governments will make me accept that. I don't want my money supporting your sick perverted lifestyle.

Russia is that way. ----------->

No I don't think so move your ass there ******.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Better stop paying taxes then...or move. I hear Russia sucks all year.

How about you move your fucked up butch ass there. Not a question but a ******* demand.

You are the one who doesn't seem to like this country much anymore. So don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

**** you cock sucker take your ****** ass from this country.

 

[aaronleland]

There is no such thing as marriage between two faggots or butches you aren't married and no ******* governments will make me accept that. I don't want my money supporting your sick perverted lifestyle.

Russia is that way. ----------->

No I don't think so move your ass there ******.

Finally, something I can agree with you on.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Russia is that way. ----------->

No I don't think so move your ass there ******.

Finally, something I can agree with you on.

There fixed it.

 

[WorldWatcher]

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Here is the Memo by the Underscretary of Defense on the matter -->> http://www.defense.gov/home/feature...enefits-to-Same-Sex-Spouses-of-Military-M.pdf



1st - Agree that with the repeal of section 3 of DOMA that the DOD as a federal agency should recognize all legal Civil Marriages equally.

2nd - Don't have an issue that military members stationed, due to federal orders, at a location where they are not allowed to enter into legal Civil Marriages should have the availability of approved leave for the purposes of entering into legal Civil Marriage.

3rd - Disagree that such leave should only be available only based on the gender composition of the couple to be Civilly Married, such leave should also be available to any member of the military who must travel to enter into a Civil Marriage. For example in 18 year old man stationed in Florida who needs to travel back to New Hampshire to marry his 13 year old girlfriend should have the same option.

4th - Disagree that such leave should be non-chargeable, when such a non-chargeable benefit is not available to mixed gender couples. Either 7 (or 10) days non-chargeable leave should be available to all military members that get Civilly Married or none at all. While Commanders should be strongly encouraged to grant such leave, there needs to be a provision where it is not allowed to interfere with operational necessity.




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[bigrebnc1775]

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Here is the Memo by the Underscretary of Defense on the matter -->> http://www.defense.gov/home/feature...enefits-to-Same-Sex-Spouses-of-Military-M.pdf



1st - Agree that with the repeal of section 3 of DOMA that the DOD as a federal agency should recognize all legal Civil Marriages equally.

2nd - Don't have an issue that military members stationed, due to federal orders, at a location where they are not allowed to enter into legal Civil Marriages should have the availability of approved leave for the purposes of entering into legal Civil Marriage.

3rd - Disagree that such leave should only be available only based on the gender composition of the couple to be Civilly Married, such leave should also be available to any member of the military who must travel to enter into a Civil Marriage. For example in 18 year old man stationed in Florida who needs to travel back to New Hampshire to marry his 13 year old girlfriend should have the same option.

4th - Disagree that such leave should be non-chargeable, when such a non-chargeable benefit is not available to mixed gender couples. Either 7 (or 10) days non-chargeable leave should be available to all military members that get Civilly Married or none at all. While Commanders should be strongly encouraged to grant such leave, there needs to be a provision where it is not allowed to interfere with operational necessity.




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The tax payer should not be on the hook for such nonsense

 

[Seawytch]

I noticed you failed to answer the first question I asked... I wonder why? Oh yeah, I know.. Because that is going to be another "special right" that gays and lesbians will have.

I already know how this is going to break down..

Any straight who objects to have a gay or lesbian assigned as a roommate or refuses to take a shower in a communal shower with one will be written up and prosecuted.

It seems that Liberals have no problem requiring Straights to live with and shower with gays and lesbians, yet they will nearly have a head explosion if anyone were to suggest that men and women be required to live and shower together in a communal shower.

If heterosexuals weren't trying to keep legal marriage as their "special right", the policy wouldn't be needed. In 13 states, gay servicemembers won't need the policy. When the others join them, you can scrap the policy.

Which policy are you talking about? There is nothing in the post of mine that you quoted that your post appears to answering or rebutting.

The policy of allowing additional leave due to the travel distance required for some gay couples to marry.

 

[Seawytch]

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Here is the Memo by the Underscretary of Defense on the matter -->> http://www.defense.gov/home/feature...enefits-to-Same-Sex-Spouses-of-Military-M.pdf



1st - Agree that with the repeal of section 3 of DOMA that the DOD as a federal agency should recognize all legal Civil Marriages equally.

2nd - Don't have an issue that military members stationed, due to federal orders, at a location where they are not allowed to enter into legal Civil Marriages should have the availability of approved leave for the purposes of entering into legal Civil Marriage.

3rd - Disagree that such leave should only be available only based on the gender composition of the couple to be Civilly Married, such leave should also be available to any member of the military who must travel to enter into a Civil Marriage. For example in 18 year old man stationed in Florida who needs to travel back to New Hampshire to marry his 13 year old girlfriend should have the same option.

4th - Disagree that such leave should be non-chargeable, when such a non-chargeable benefit is not available to mixed gender couples. Either 7 (or 10) days non-chargeable leave should be available to all military members that get Civilly Married or none at all. While Commanders should be strongly encouraged to grant such leave, there needs to be a provision where it is not allowed to interfere with operational necessity.




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Agree with all except 4th. Should be available to all that have to travel in order to civilly marry and should only be to nearest state not state of choice. If you can legally marry in the state you're in, you marry there. All servicemembers.

 

[WorldWatcher]

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Here is the Memo by the Underscretary of Defense on the matter -->> http://www.defense.gov/home/feature...enefits-to-Same-Sex-Spouses-of-Military-M.pdf



1st - Agree that with the repeal of section 3 of DOMA that the DOD as a federal agency should recognize all legal Civil Marriages equally.

2nd - Don't have an issue that military members stationed, due to federal orders, at a location where they are not allowed to enter into legal Civil Marriages should have the availability of approved leave for the purposes of entering into legal Civil Marriage.

3rd - Disagree that such leave should only be available only based on the gender composition of the couple to be Civilly Married, such leave should also be available to any member of the military who must travel to enter into a Civil Marriage. For example in 18 year old man stationed in Florida who needs to travel back to New Hampshire to marry his 13 year old girlfriend should have the same option.

4th - Disagree that such leave should be non-chargeable, when such a non-chargeable benefit is not available to mixed gender couples. Either 7 (or 10) days non-chargeable leave should be available to all military members that get Civilly Married or none at all. While Commanders should be strongly encouraged to grant such leave, there needs to be a provision where it is not allowed to interfere with operational necessity.




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Agree with all except 4th. Should be available to all that have to travel in order to civilly marry and should only be to nearest state not state of choice. If you can legally marry in the state you're in, you marry there. All servicemembers.

The 100 mile limit allows for same day weddings without impact on operations.

"nearest state" v. "state of choice" is irrelevant as it is not paid TAD (or for the other services TDY) - travel expenses are not paid by the military. Whether you travel from Virginia to Maryland by car or fly from California to Maine for 7 days makes no difference.


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